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OfflinePatlal
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ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it?
    #23668839 - 09/22/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And by we, I mean USA. You got all that military and yet it seems as if Obama is reluctant.

Before you ask "Well, Why doesn't Canada do something about it?"... You obviously know that we couldn't invade anything... So yeah, I said it.

The US has 10 big ass Nimitz class aircraft carriers. They carry 60 F18s each. Where are they?

- 4 are in Norfolk Virginia, protecting DC.
- 2 are in San Diego
- 1 is in Seattle
- 1 is in the middle of the Pacific
- 1 is on the East coast of Japan
- 1 is South of Afghanistan

1 out of 10 carriers is near the enemy right now. I get Japan because of North Korea. Why are there 7 parked at home doing nothing?


It seems to me that aircraft carriers are perfect for the ISIS mission. No boots on the ground. Jets can go bomb and come back from close range and they fly on top of water, which is much safer. There's no ground troops that can get to you and anything they could throw at you will appear on the radar and be blown up by the overwhelmingly superior force that an aircraft carrier has over every other military weapon on earth short of a nuke (which it would intercept from far away). It's safer than any ground base anywhere on earth. It's like a private island.

So what's the problem? You still pay the sailors that work on it 24/7 so why not just invest the gas money and put them to use? They could be a safe landing spot for anybody that wants to send jets.

Fun fact. The biggest air force in the world is the USAF. The second biggest airforce in the world is owned by the US Navy.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #23668883 - 09/22/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Russia and other situations.  There will never be an end to the war on terror.  Attempting to end it is not only impossible but also counter effective to the current modern cold war and relative proxy wars we conduct around that theater.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23668886 - 09/22/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The US has dropped close to 40,000 bombs on ISIS targets. I'm not exactly sure why you think that isn't enough.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23668985 - 09/22/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Needs to be nucular bombs


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #23668996 - 09/22/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because we're using daesh to destabilize Syria, when Russia intervened they were able to quickly push daesh back with far less manpower. The US is pulling it's punches, while enabling Turkey and probably Saudi Arabia to invest in daesh.

Its a dangerous game, I don't personally approve of.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669007 - 09/22/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why does anything need to be done about it? Let them kill eachother.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: koods]
    #23669017 - 09/22/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The US has dropped close to 40,000 bombs on ISIS targets. I'm not exactly sure why you think that isn't enough.




Well you know... They are still there. So finish the job I guess..


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669032 - 09/22/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That will turn the local populous around towards the western world.  Bomb them into the future!


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669039 - 09/22/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You know ISIS is basically just Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Only more fanatical because of the last War on Terror that failed miserably and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in the middle east.


What do you want to do Patlal? What would you do to fight against people who hide with civilians, ARE civilians, without killing masses of innocent people?


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #23669042 - 09/22/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We created isis and are supporting them. They're our puppets in this proxy war in an attempt to replace Assad with a spook president we provide. Control of key oil pipelines is what fuels the chaos in the middle east. Turn it into rubble and take it over one country at a time.

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General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years



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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Repertoire89] * 2
    #23669044 - 09/22/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23669053 - 09/22/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:thatsinteresting: it gets to the point where like it that happening :shrug: I guess so.  It's got a pretty jpeg.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669101 - 09/22/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Speak for yourself, Canadian :crankey:


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23669135 - 09/22/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ISIS is pure gold for media and propaganda purposes. Its good to keep a boogey man around, to justify unlimited military spending and surveillance etc.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669160 - 09/22/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only way to truly beat the enemy is go in and kill all the men in the cities. But then you have all the muslims everywhere else in the world. Better to just leave it all alone. Not like they could ever invade the US anyway.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23669174 - 09/22/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Obama is actually an ISIS ally, he will not actually do anything because he condones their actions


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23669185 - 09/22/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

PatrickKn said:





The world is just playing roulette on this one. I wonder what the Russians will do.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23669205 - 09/22/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How does "we" mean the USA, when you are Canadian :comfused:


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #23669255 - 09/22/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We're doing way more than most people realize. Primarily drone strikes on cash storage. We've actually been pretty successful in crippling them financially. They halved their salary.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: saythatagain]
    #23669270 - 09/22/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Whats funny about that is America never targeted their cash storage or their supply lines until Russia made very public accusations of their collusion. Then suddenly they rolled out the a-10's and ac-130's en masse, and hurriedly mopped up their tankers and support vehicles. Finally nailing ISIS's Aorta after 2 fucking years.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23669283 - 09/22/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Obviously what we need is some shroomery desktop or nowadays cellphone generals.

We always have all the answers and tin foil anyone could need.  Russia is not the good guys,  in any manner.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23669287 - 09/22/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Theyre just men, you put too much faith in ties and shiny pins.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23669288 - 09/22/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Obviously what we need is some shroomery desktop or nowadays cellphone generals.

We always have all the answers and tin foil anyone could need.  Russia is not the good guys,  in any manner.




If you believe there are "good guys" then you should stay out of political discussions in general.

Not sure what you're trying to achieve with the blanket insult towards anyone who comments.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23669301 - 09/22/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All the in depth types that talk details when we don't know what's up. 

Bohdi you put too many ideas into my words. 

Rep89 if you can't read one level behind my distain of good guys you should work on your reading comprehension.

Only those insulted interpreted that way. Thought that was fairly clear between the tin foil and general comment. 



Another boring day up north eh op? Better enjoy the outside before the cold.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23669303 - 09/22/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Obviously what we need is some shroomery desktop or nowadays cellphone generals.

We always have all the answers and tin foil anyone could need.  Russia is not the good guys,  in any manner.




If you believe there are "good guys" then you should stay out of political discussions in general.

Not sure what you're trying to achieve with the blanket insult towards anyone who comments.




The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is hashtags. Remember the 200 hundred girls MOOOOchelle Obama saved by tweeting about it?


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23669316 - 09/22/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Rep89 if you can't read one level behind my distain of good guys you should work on your reading comprehension.

Only those insulted interpreted that way. Thought that was fairly clear between the tin foil and general comment. 




I'm neither insulted nor trying to insult you  :shrug:


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23669321 - 09/22/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's some winning logic! You do know the respective factual statistics about the good guy with a gun theory completely doesn't back you up. 

As if your degrading comments about a beautiful first lady didn't convince evetyone you are a trump loving mouth breather.

By the way i don't get twitter also and it is dumb but... let's get back to these derailing tangents about how superior we are compared to others, that's intelligently discuss.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23669329 - 09/22/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Rep89 if you can't read one level behind my distain of good guys you should work on your reading comprehension.

Only those insulted interpreted that way. Thought that was fairly clear between the tin foil and general comment. 




I'm neither insulted nor trying to insult you  :shrug:



Huh reading comprehension would suggest to me you were under a said blanket.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #23669351 - 09/22/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Rep89 if you can't read one level behind my distain of good guys you should work on your reading comprehension.

Only those insulted interpreted that way. Thought that was fairly clear between the tin foil and general comment. 




I'm neither insulted nor trying to insult you  :shrug:



Huh reading comprehension would suggest to me you were under a said blanket.




:lol:  if that's what you're here for then knock yourself out.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23669354 - 09/22/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
And by we, I mean USA. You got all that military and yet it seems as if Obama is reluctant.
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obama is still aiding the 'rebels'


why dont YOU go fight ISIS, that shit aint my business and any of you liberals that
thing we should be doing something in syria or iraq, have at it, aint no one
stopping you from going to be a human shield but you. now stop talking and start
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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: PatrickKn] * 2
    #23669490 - 09/22/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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where i come from, that's called a clusterfuck


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: demiu5]
    #23669497 - 09/22/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

where I came from we called that the oversimplified version of events.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #23669803 - 09/22/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Russia and other situations.  There will never be an end to the war on terror.  Attempting to end it is not only impossible but also counter effective to the current modern cold war and relative proxy wars we conduct around that theater.




this and because ISIS doesn't actually pose a threat to america as a nation, and in fact serves a valuable purpose. Certainly it threatens some citizens, but the big wigs don't care about trivialities like that


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23670340 - 09/23/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Patlal said:
And by we, I mean USA. You got all that military and yet it seems as if Obama is reluctant.
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why dont YOU go fight ISIS




No.


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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Patlal]
    #23670498 - 09/23/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
And by we, I mean USA. You got all that military and yet it seems as if Obama is reluctant.
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why dont YOU go fight ISIS




No.







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Re: ISIS... Why aren't we doing more about it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23670639 - 09/23/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Are you saying I'm Mexican???


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