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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23674901 - 09/24/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are so out of touch with reality


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23674912 - 09/24/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on where they're getting it from. If it's from a headshop - those prices are extremely inflated. The one here sells (or sold) kilos of maeng da for $200 a kilo. Before then, when I was first told about it, an ounce was nearly $50. No it doesn't make sense but some people don't know how to internet.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23674918 - 09/24/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the people I know that do it buy 4 monster energy drinks and 50-100 dollars worth every couple weeks to a month. they need help with rent. just saying I've never met an intelligent kratom user or any kratom user I would invite in my house. but at the end of the day fuck the DEA. but still kratom is as gay as vaping


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23674938 - 09/24/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Making Kratom illegal is ridiculous! The DEA should be focusing their energy on the real drugs and stop trying to hassle people wanting to use their Kratom! You never hear of people falling out on Kratom or any devastating stories for that matter. If anything I have heard good things about it and its actually helped one of my friends conquer his heroin addiction. It never helped me with staying off heroin but It sure has helped others. They say they wanna help people with opiate addictions well I feel that helping us would be to not making it illegal and keeping it legal. Just my two cents. But they are gonna do that they are gonna do..


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23674971 - 09/24/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not to get :tinfoil: but in the midst of a heroin epidemic... an epidemic wherein an unregulated drug is regularly being laced and cut with extremely potent and harmful things... you would think that they would consider adopting regulations instead of banning a 'drug' outright.


I don't blame people that think maybe the government is responsible for the fent heroin going around :tinfoil: or not its really contradictory to even suggest that this is the best way to go about things. And it's hypocritical and frustrating to also suggest it's because they care about us. :facepalm:


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23675124 - 09/24/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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the people I know that do it buy 4 monster energy drinks and 50-100 dollars worth every couple weeks to a month. they need help with rent. just saying I've never met an intelligent kratom user or any kratom user I would invite in my house. but at the end of the day fuck the DEA. but still kratom is as gay as vaping




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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23675142 - 09/24/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: :Trollface: :flipthebird:


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23675170 - 09/24/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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:lol: :Trollface: :flipthebird:




Shit man. I spent too much money on monster energy drinks, kratom, and e-juice and I'm gonna need to borrow 100 bucks from my mom to pay rent. Probably not a good time to come out, huh?

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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23675179 - 09/24/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's alright.  Most people I know think people that use mushies are dumb drug-addict hippies.  To each his own.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic]
    #23675189 - 09/24/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just saying it's disproportionate; likewise meth users and heroin addicts were usually not anyone fruitful before the drugs


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23675415 - 09/24/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What I want to know is who's the guy, or girl, who first spoke of criminalizing Kratom, like who exactly said to the other person "ok, so Kratom, it's gotta go"', and like the person just snaps his fingers and poof it happens, like who is the guy that did that?.. Or like who even gave that guy the idea of banning Kratom..


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23675442 - 09/24/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You'll never know.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic]
    #23675453 - 09/24/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have an idea of the kind of person they may be tho, no doubt the worst kind of person.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23675456 - 09/24/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People are just bad in general.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic]
    #23675519 - 09/24/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's probably the same attitude these politicians are running around with


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23675535 - 09/24/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I don't know why I typed that.  I'm feeling especially pessimistic today.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23675907 - 09/25/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone struggling with WD, look into gabapentin or pregabalin.




I wholeheartedly disagree.

Lyrica is an addiction ten times worse than kratom.  Once you're on for a period of time it's virtually impossible to get off.

It rots the brain and is used to halt seizures, yet sometimes when I take it it makes my legs twitch uncontrollably.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23675918 - 09/25/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes being addicted to Lyrica would be ten times worse
But the Kratom wd only last about 3-4 days
And lyrica addiction won't develop that fast
I'm not saying switch from long term daily Kratom use
To long term daily lyrica

I'm saying when you quit Kratom you can use lyrica for 3-4 days to totally mask the wd then quit  that too without being addicted to either

I have done this many times without any problems


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23676012 - 09/25/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I get where you're coming from, just feel it deserves a disclaimer.  I didnt realize how hard it would be to stop using lyrica when I started.  Kratom actually helped me cut back tremendously on the dose, it'll be fun times once I run out.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23676208 - 09/25/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Congress is passing the Dear Colleague Letter around Monday for full review and a chance for every member to sign.

This is the best time to call now!  Please, if theirs never been a better time to call now.. even if you have phone anxiety, a 2-5 minute phone call could end all of this permanently.  Leave a message stating to please consider signing the Pocan/Salmon Dear Colleague Letter!

A huge congratulatory on the 45 signees!  Beautiful work everyone!!


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