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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23685232 - 09/28/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's what i was thinking too, they just want the power to bust people for it in case they ever wanted to fuck some politician or something, or some kid who wouldn't stfu about it.. Either way, it's a power thing, that's all those fuckers want.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: zZZz] 1
#23685311 - 09/28/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I honestly think its a money thing. Kratom is likely cutting into the profits of big pharma. It's the same reason alcohol and tobacco companies lobby against marijuana legalization and fund bullshit studies and things like that.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#23685337 - 09/28/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk!
Kratom is so fucking awesome! Like I said before, I never heard about it until about a week and a half ago so I ordered some and tried it yesterday and loved it. And now it's about to be fucking illegal. I really wish I would have known about kratom way earlier, imagine all the money I would have saved on weed (cause it killed my weed craving). I shouldn't smoke because of my job and kratom would have been a perfect sub.
Now that I've tried it I'm really tore up I only bought a kilo. I was planning on selling some to my friends who apparently know what it is, if I didn't like it. But I do and now it's gone forever.
Fucking DEA. Now I see what the deal is.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23685343 - 09/28/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
If I were in America I would flee for my very life.
A lot easier said than done.
This prison-industrial complex is hard to escape.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#23685364 - 09/28/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I honestly think its a money thing. Kratom is likely cutting into the profits of big pharma. It's the same reason alcohol and tobacco companies lobby against marijuana legalization and fund bullshit studies and things like that.
I would almost prefer things made that much sense, but I'm pretty sure it just the hatred that self-appointed authorities have for kids who want to try drugs responsibly, or people who want to treat themselves without doctors.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23685691 - 09/28/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So true. Every word of it. I hope that even though kratom is being scheduled it won't be criminalized. In my state shrooms are legal to grow and very much decriminalized as. We have medical pot and it's really easy to get a card too, but my state is really tough on things like meth and heroin, because those are what cause real problems.
I've never talked to anyone from Iceland before BTW. What's it like over there? I know you all had some really bad economic problems a while back but I don't hear about it anymore so you must have bounced back. Looks like a really cool place to go visit.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Love_spirit] 1
#23685723 - 09/28/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: My suggestion is to keep buying it and importing it regardless of the legal status. Don't let fear stop you from doing what you know is right. If you live somewhere like Texas move somewhere more lenient to the cause.
It's been discussed and I believe kratom will only be imported in small quantities and likely almost exclusively as extract. Kratom just won't be very appealing to smugglers. Lower popularity, low addiction rate, and large amounts needed to be sold to users in comparison to coke and heroin... If I were risking my neck for profit like that kratom would not be my choice.
Does it grow in Mexico or south America? If it did it would have a better chance of coming in.
Besides that I personally wouldn't want my pain medicine coming from criminals that regularly ruin peoples lives, kill people, and certainly don't mind putting bad shit in my drugs.
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Edited by CookieCrumbs (09/28/16 08:11 AM)
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23685816 - 09/28/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about HCK that was thrown in jail and had their entire supply confiscated.
Did we figure out if we should be making more phone calls today, or was it yest
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#23685854 - 09/28/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
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Love_spirit said: My suggestion is to keep buying it and importing it regardless of the legal status. Don't let fear stop you from doing what you know is right. If you live somewhere like Texas move somewhere more lenient to the cause.
It's been discussed and I believe kratom will only be imported in small quantities and likely almost exclusively as extract. Kratom just won't be very appealing to smugglers. Lower popularity, low addiction rate, and large amounts needed to be sold to users in comparison to coke and heroin... If I were risking my neck for profit like that kratom would not be my choice.
Does it grow in Mexico or south America? If it did it would have a better chance of coming in.
Besides that I personally wouldn't want my pain medicine coming from criminals that regularly ruin peoples lives, kill people, and certainly don't mind putting bad shit in my drugs. 
And once the smugglers sell it to distributers they are probably going to cut the shit out of it. Gooey extract is too easy to cut. And dry leaf powder is even easier. Street krat is going to be as bad as, if not worse than corner store kratom.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#23686206 - 09/28/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inb4 fentanyl kratom
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#23686210 - 09/28/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#23686431 - 09/28/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BUT IT'S SYNTHETIC HEROIN!!! AND IT KEEPS PEOPLE OFF HEROIN!!!
KRATOM IS JUST HEROIN BATH SALTS, THINK OF ALL THE FACE CHEWINGS WE'LL SAVE!!!
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] 1
#23686451 - 09/28/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heroin is synthetic.
I hope people get some good kratom plants going in the states but its not like weed. If it gets found it will be destroyed and the. That tree that took years to develope is gone and you have to start all over again
Edited by BANANA.MAN (09/28/16 12:43 PM)
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy] 2
#23686500 - 09/28/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said:
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sh4d0ws said: I honestly think its a money thing. Kratom is likely cutting into the profits of big pharma. It's the same reason alcohol and tobacco companies lobby against marijuana legalization and fund bullshit studies and things like that.
I would almost prefer things made that much sense, but I'm pretty sure it just the hatred that self-appointed authorities have for kids who want to try drugs responsibly, or people who want to treat themselves without doctors.
This ban absolutely is a result of the pharmaceutical companies getting rid of Kratom because it helps people get off or stay off of pharmaceutical opiate pills, and that cuts into their profits .
See my new thread in the pub for a longer explanation.
If you don't realize this ban is nothing more than the pharmaceutical companies protecting their addiction empire by targeting a natural plant medicine that helps a few of their drug- slaves break their chains of addiction and stop funnelling all their money to the pharma-predators.
It's painfully obvious. The motivation could not be more sinister or more transparent.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23686779 - 09/28/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#23686812 - 09/28/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will check your other thread and get back, but I still feel like the situation goes beyond just that.
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BANANA.MAN said: Heroin is synthetic.
I hope people get some good kratom plants going in the states but its not like weed. If it gets found it will be destroyed and the. That tree that took years to develope is gone and you have to start all over again
Heroin is considered semi-synthetic.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23686847 - 09/28/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont like that term. But fine ill say its not naturally occuring. What drug isnt "semi-synthetic" one way or another though? Besides inhailents.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#23686872 - 09/28/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Morphine, codiene.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom *DELETED* [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23686946 - 09/28/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by WrathReason for deletion: Misinformation by girlfriend!!
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23686977 - 09/28/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I fucked that up. What syntheric drug isnt semisynthetic in one way or another
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