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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #23682883 - 09/27/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only time I ever puked from kratom was when I was hung over and chugged a bunch of kratom mixed with water. That was more from the awful taste than the effects of the kratom. These days I mix it with chocolate milk and never have any stomach issues, just a little bit of jitters if I take way too much.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23683110 - 09/27/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I puke any time I exceed my dose. As long as I stick to my dose, I get no nausea, no discomfort of any kind and improved bowel function.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23683148 - 09/27/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've already been tapering down my dose to get the most mileage out of these 2 kilos I have. Down to 5 grams 3 times a day (morning, after work, and an hour before bed) down from  8-10.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23683162 - 09/27/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Some people are amazed to find they can get the results they want from as little as a third of their regular dose.

For a while I was taking 3 tsp at a time. I dropped down to 1 tsp and after a few days I was getting the same results I used to get from 3.

IME your tolerance quickly adjusts, so using more is basically a waste.

Less is more with kratom.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23683186 - 09/27/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's what I'm beginning to realize. When I get home today I'm gonna try taking just 3 grams. I want to stretch out my stockpile for as long as possible.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] * 1
    #23683490 - 09/27/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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**DEA IS NOW ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED KRATOM BAN SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH**

We need two (2) calls from everyone TOMORROW, 1st is to the DEA headquarters; 2nd is to your local DEA office - Tell your story about Kratom & comment on the proposed ban and how it will a/effect you.  We can't stress enough of how important it is to call with a positive attitude.  This is a huge step in accomplishing our goal of delaying the ban on Kratom; and we need YOU more than ever!  Thank you for taking the time to make the calls!!

DEA Headquarters:. (202)-307-1000

For domestic offices near you:

Atlanta Division: (404)-893-7000
New Jersey Division: (973)-776-1100
New England Division: (617)-557-2100
New Orleans Division: (504)-840-1100
Caribbean Division: (787)-277-4700
New York Division: (212)-337-3900
Chicago Division: (312)-353-7875
Philadelphia Division: (215)-861-3474
Dallas Division: (214)-366-6900
Phoenix Division: (602)-664-5600
Denver Division: (720)-895-4040
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Detroit Division: (313)-234-4000
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Seattle Division: (206)-553-5443
Houston Division: (713)-693-3000
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Los Angeles Division: (213)-621-6700
Washington DC Division: (202)-305-8500
Miami Division: (954)-660-4500







What should I be prepared for when calling one of these.  Am I going to be talking to a person or leaving a message?


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23683596 - 09/27/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just placed an order for 500 grams. Cutting it pretty close.:paranoid:

I feel like the first week or so there'll be some shipments that barely squeak through. I told my vendor if he can't overnight it to be here before friday not to bother though. But always feel free to consider me for all his "kratom disposal needs" in case he finds himself with a torch and a shitload of kratom.:aweyeah:


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Edited by LuSiD enthusiast (09/27/16 03:43 PM)


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23683606 - 09/27/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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NumeroEno said:
I've already been tapering down my dose to get the most mileage out of these 2 kilos I have. Down to 5 grams 3 times a day (morning, after work, and an hour before bed) down from  8-10.



I started tapering down to a single tsp a day. Then my kilo came in.

Right as i got in my car from the post office 5 tbsp went straight into my designated "mug of drug"(just a mug i can shake my kratom up in and have it concealed).

:facepalm:


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I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


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Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23683857 - 09/27/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've gotten both voicemail as well as a secretary for rep's office.  They are there to work for you and are usually very nice and nonjudging.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: geokills] * 1
    #23683895 - 09/27/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What your doing is like petitioning the bully to give back your lunch money. Going through the correct channels isn't going to cut it boys.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Love_spirit] * 1
    #23684073 - 09/27/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your suggestions aren't much better.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Love_spirit] * 3
    #23684184 - 09/27/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In fact, along the lines of your metaphor, instead of trying to get your lunch money back, you simply turn tail and avoid him, hoping you won't cross paths again when there's a very good chance you will.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23684238 - 09/27/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

big money against it and plenty of coin for the worst in society if it is illegal. usual story


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23684420 - 09/27/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My suggestion is to keep buying it and importing it regardless of the legal status. Don't let fear stop you from doing what you know is right. If you live somewhere like Texas move somewhere more lenient to the cause.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar] * 1
    #23684474 - 09/27/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone else have some bad constipation from katom? 2 years using and the last week I have been getting crazy side effects, i think. The last 4 nights, I have been really constipated..That feeling when you have to take a shit really bad, that feeling for hours on end. Fall asleep and take a shit in the morning, but it won't come out at night.

I drink plenty water during the day, I just feel really gassy. If i take ibuprofen, antacid, pepto I burp like crazy at night, every couple seconds a tiny burp, but no big ones. I have a feeling it is something to do with the kratom. Took my last dose yesterday morning. Hard to describe exactly.

I got some gabapentin to get me through day 1, and I have 2100mg left, not sure if ill dose low 300-600mg or do one more big dose tomorrow.



I used to get constipated from kratom when I barely ever used it but when I started using it regularly the process reversed and I would actually need to take a huge shit whenever it kicked in just like with an amphetamine which just goes to show how much of a stimulant it actually is. I think pople underestimate the extent to which kratom causes NA/DA release


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: geokills] * 2
    #23684529 - 09/27/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My rule of thumb with the gov. is "If it makes sense, its probably not going to happen."


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Love_spirit] * 1
    #23684611 - 09/27/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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My suggestion is to keep buying it and importing it regardless of the legal status. Don't let fear stop you from doing what you know is right. If you live somewhere like Texas move somewhere more lenient to the cause.



You know the ban affects all states equally right? Ain't no medicinal kratom programs in California or anywhere.

I agree with your perspective though and don't plan to let the government get in the way of shit. But this ban will definitely jack the price way up across the board.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
    #23684747 - 09/27/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And put a lot of people in jail who don't understand when something is illegal it's illegal.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz] * 1
    #23685070 - 09/28/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's controlled in Aus since Jan last year. I never really understood why they bothered as most people I know have never heard of Kratom, cops included. The few I know who use it have continued to do so for that very reason. Is the situation much different in the states?


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: JustGROW] * 1
    #23685222 - 09/28/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

As I understand it , what is happening is kratom is being placed under schedule 1.

However, it doesn't actually follow that it will be persecuted or people will be charged heavily for having it.

Its very possible we will see no / very few actual charges for kratom possession and its questionable at this point how harsh the sentences will be.

For example, marijuana is also schedule 1, while morphine, cocaine etc are actually schedule 2 I believe.

however, marijuana (schedule 1) is often treated much more leniently by police than cocaine or oxy which are not schedule 1.

There is a lot of officer discretion and I just dont think cops or society cares enough about kratom.

I can see judges throwing out cases and giving lenient sentences and  cops confiscating and letting you go as they often do with pot.

Thats what I hope anyways. Even though the DEA is putting it in schedule 1, it remains to be seen how police and judges will actually enforce this idiocy, and I am moderately hopeful they basically wont.

If  i was a judge  or cop and some person was before me with a kilo of kratom, I would fucking laugh and let them walk away.

I really hope society just rejects this. We just dont see kratom and weed as the worst drugs, even though they are schedule 1. No one cares about kratom.

I just dont see it being persecuted that hard.

We shall see.

What fucking vile idiocy to expand the drug war in 2016 and criminalize a huge class of people who were previously not breaking the law when prisons are already massively over crowded.

A class of people who tend to suffer from arthritis, depression, back pain etc are now criminals under the law for using herbal medicine.

This combined with the UK psychoactive ban are the most infantile and idiotic political actions I have ever seen.

The world condemns and despises the US government, its drug war and its prison-industrial complex.

You are living in a fascist dystopia.

If I were in America I would flee for my very life.


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