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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] 1
#23680330 - 09/26/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grand Total of 49! Way above expectation! We'll see what comes of. Congratulations all! Your hard work is beyond appreciated and pays off!!

It's only over though when we win.. keep fighting!
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] 1
#23680571 - 09/26/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It might be unwarranted, but I'm flushed with pride to see my states represented. I feel like my voice has been heard.
Great job, everyone!
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] 1
#23680661 - 09/26/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tripp23 said: Grand Total of 49! Way above expectation! We'll see what comes of. Congratulations all! Your hard work is beyond appreciated and pays off!!

It's only over though when we win.. keep fighting!
I'm very disappointed to see none of my state representatives signed it
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] 1
#23680858 - 09/26/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The reps in my area didn't sign even though I asked politely. I'm going to make it a point to bad mouth them on the internet now.
I consider this a crime against society and humanity. Drugs should be legal and a new agency should be setup to monitor the quality, source, dosage suggestions, and what ever else would make drug use safer. The DEA needs to go away forever.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Lophosaurus] 2
#23681354 - 09/26/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: The reps in my area didn't sign even though I asked politely. I'm going to make it a point to bad mouth them on the internet now.
I consider this a crime against society and humanity. Drugs should be legal and a new agency should be setup to monitor the quality, source, dosage suggestions, and what ever else would make drug use safer. The DEA needs to go away forever.
Should make like anti drug style psa's with the rep's who don't sign that say something to the effect of "state rep 'xxx' thinks heroin is safer than an herbal tea blend that has never killed a person". Then post it in r/kratom and do twitter hashtags and all that social media shit and get as many people in each state to smear thw shit out these asshole.
My state ain't on there either. (Il)
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] 3
#23681360 - 09/26/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] 1
#23681487 - 09/26/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool to see that some action is being taken so seriously to fight the ban. still can't stifle my cynicism though, I think there's too much money involved for the opposition to stand a chance.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#23681791 - 09/26/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said:
I consider this a crime against society and humanity. Drugs should be legal and a new agency should be setup to monitor the quality, source, dosage suggestions, and what ever else would make drug use safer. The DEA needs to go away forever.
I've been thinking for some time now that the DEA should be abolished. Their existence is pointless. Let the local authorities deal with the meth cooks and shit.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] 1
#23681920 - 09/27/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone else have some bad constipation from katom? 2 years using and the last week I have been getting crazy side effects, i think. The last 4 nights, I have been really constipated..That feeling when you have to take a shit really bad, that feeling for hours on end. Fall asleep and take a shit in the morning, but it won't come out at night.
I drink plenty water during the day, I just feel really gassy. If i take ibuprofen, antacid, pepto I burp like crazy at night, every couple seconds a tiny burp, but no big ones. I have a feeling it is something to do with the kratom. Took my last dose yesterday morning. Hard to describe exactly.
I got some gabapentin to get me through day 1, and I have 2100mg left, not sure if ill dose low 300-600mg or do one more big dose tomorrow.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar] 1
#23681975 - 09/27/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes I had constipation from Krat one of the only side effects but that is true for all opiates as they bind to your gut as well as your brain. Most reds gave me constipation while some of the green strains gave me the runs. I'll trade constipation for pain any day though.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar] 1
#23681982 - 09/27/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am the opposite- kratom keeps me wonderfully regular and gives me the easiest, healthiest poops.
Its wierd but it does one or the other for people- some people it constipates, some people it keeps regular.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz] 1
#23681990 - 09/27/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I only took Kratom once. It resulted in me getting exceedingly uncomfortable in the chest, something small seemed to be swelling up tighter and tighter. After several hours it suddenly ruptured and i felt a wet internal splash. Very alarming. I decided it was not for me.
It seems reasonable that it was a hallucination but it was completely vivid and scared the crap out of me.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Asante] 1
#23682235 - 09/27/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just got my shit in the mail, band da white vein. Never tried kratom before, but the ban made me curious (that's why I wrote the letter I posted here too).
How much should I try? I'm getting mixed reviews, some say 2 grams some say five. I'm not worried about the affects, just don't want to throw up.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23682295 - 09/27/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I been using kratom on and off for 2 years..longest break was a couple months, but recently it was a kilo a month for 6 months. Never had pains like that before with kratom which is really weird, even when I cut my doses per day by 1/3 or 1/4, then the pains started soon after. Instead of 3-4 doses a day, i was taking 1 and a possible redose.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar] 1
#23682313 - 09/27/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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**DEA IS NOW ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED KRATOM BAN SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH**
We need two (2) calls from everyone TOMORROW, 1st is to the DEA headquarters; 2nd is to your local DEA office - Tell your story about Kratom & comment on the proposed ban and how it will a/effect you. We can't stress enough of how important it is to call with a positive attitude. This is a huge step in accomplishing our goal of delaying the ban on Kratom; and we need YOU more than ever! Thank you for taking the time to make the calls!!
DEA Headquarters:. (202)-307-1000
For domestic offices near you:
Atlanta Division: (404)-893-7000 New Jersey Division: (973)-776-1100 New England Division: (617)-557-2100 New Orleans Division: (504)-840-1100 Caribbean Division: (787)-277-4700 New York Division: (212)-337-3900 Chicago Division: (312)-353-7875 Philadelphia Division: (215)-861-3474 Dallas Division: (214)-366-6900 Phoenix Division: (602)-664-5600 Denver Division: (720)-895-4040 San Diego Division: (858)-616-4100 Detroit Division: (313)-234-4000 San Francisco Division: (415)-436-7900 El Paso Division: (915)-832-6000 Seattle Division: (206)-553-5443 Houston Division: (713)-693-3000 St. Louis Division: (314)-538-4600 Los Angeles Division: (213)-621-6700 Washington DC Division: (202)-305-8500 Miami Division: (954)-660-4500
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#23682357 - 09/27/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] 1
#23682415 - 09/27/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tripp23 said:
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**DEA IS NOW ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED KRATOM BAN SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH**
We need two (2) calls from everyone TOMORROW, 1st is to the DEA headquarters; 2nd is to your local DEA office - Tell your story about Kratom & comment on the proposed ban and how it will a/effect you. We can't stress enough of how important it is to call with a positive attitude. This is a huge step in accomplishing our goal of delaying the ban on Kratom; and we need YOU more than ever! Thank you for taking the time to make the calls!!
DEA Headquarters:. (202)-307-1000
For domestic offices near you:
Atlanta Division: (404)-893-7000 New Jersey Division: (973)-776-1100 New England Division: (617)-557-2100 New Orleans Division: (504)-840-1100 Caribbean Division: (787)-277-4700 New York Division: (212)-337-3900 Chicago Division: (312)-353-7875 Philadelphia Division: (215)-861-3474 Dallas Division: (214)-366-6900 Phoenix Division: (602)-664-5600 Denver Division: (720)-895-4040 San Diego Division: (858)-616-4100 Detroit Division: (313)-234-4000 San Francisco Division: (415)-436-7900 El Paso Division: (915)-832-6000 Seattle Division: (206)-553-5443 Houston Division: (713)-693-3000 St. Louis Division: (314)-538-4600 Los Angeles Division: (213)-621-6700 Washington DC Division: (202)-305-8500 Miami Division: (954)-660-4500
Wow! That's unexpected. I didn't think they would give a shit. I'll definitely be calling on my lunch break.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: poke smot!] 1
#23682542 - 09/27/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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poke smot! said: The kratom vendors have been robocalling me, spamming, etc for about a couple months now regarding the scheduling of their drugplant.
I got clean four years ago, way to go.
Despite this, my feelings are mixed, since I know it's Big Pharma's MO to suffocate out any competition to their products, which I despise.
I believe people who are in pain should have plants like kratom as an option.
I know my own story, that of the pain I believed I had, as I continued along my path of self-destruction. I would like to believe people who need kratom take the drugplant, however I suspect most consumers are using it as I was, to get high.
And all I have is my own experience, kratom was not making things better.

You sure it's been a couple months? Most people I know weren't aware of it till late August. Because emergency scheduling has no 'trial' and it goes into effect one month after the announcement. Are your vendors psychic? If so I'd like to have some of what they're taking 
Alot of you seem to be describing the indigestion side effect. I've had GERD for over 10 years now and it took me a while but I've learned to manage kratom. Small doses at a time and always put some food on top of it. Though I realize this is the opposite of what alot of people say. Tho you're right, alot of people use it to get fucked up. I'm not keen on that, kratom is a shitty high imo. At least if you're trying to replicate that nodding effect.
Most people toss and wash. Well when you think about it your stomach isn't really meant to handle 5 grams of pure powder. Of course you're going to get indigestion. Doing tea instead helped alot for me but unfortunately all my vendors stopped selling the leaf. Powder is more effective. Especially if you're going for 10 grams at a time...
I've been using kratom for roughly 3 years for chronic pain. It has dramatically improved my life and made me a whole hell of alot more confident in going out and doing things. I have a family history chock full of digestive problems and I inherited that too. I used to cycle thru periods of diarrhea and constipation. OTC pain meds made the diarrhea worse (as well as hurt my liver. Extreme discomfort.) Tramadol and hydrocodone made the constipation worse. An unexpected side effect to my daily kratom use is, along with drastic improvements in my diet, I've not had the runs in ages. I do still get stopped up on occasion but even that is generally better. Before kratom I was weak and suffering everyday, feeling like I might die more days than not. I was seriously contemplating suicide before getting on kratom. I hated my life back then.
I cried when the ban was announced. It's really frustrating for someone like me who depends on the plant as a medicine (a very safe trustworthy medicine) to hear people being happy it's being banned because they can't control themselves. It's a little annoying that many more regular users don't seem to much care. It's annoying that so many people using it for a high is exactly how it caught the DEAs attention.
This isn't "whatever guess I have to stop" for me. They are condemning me to a life of pain and condescending bullshit with doctors who honestly fuck up in their medical care more than I ever have. This has a very real chance of making me suicidal (this on top of other things has made me more depressed this month than I have been in years) this will likely ruin what life I have and destroy my confidence. This is unforgivable. This is a declaration of war on me and my freedom. My ability to work, to function, to live is in jeopardy.
I'm looking into alternatives. But I can't imagine anything as effective and safe as kratom.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23] 1
#23682548 - 09/27/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is "tomorrow" today? I'm probably not going to be able to be awfully positive talking to them. I think it'll take alot just to keep myself from yelling.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23682871 - 09/27/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: Just got my shit in the mail, band da white vein. Never tried kratom before, but the ban made me curious (that's why I wrote the letter I posted here too).
How much should I try? I'm getting mixed reviews, some say 2 grams some say five. I'm not worried about the affects, just don't want to throw up.
If It's your first time i would say take 2 grams every hours and don't exceed 14.
The nice thing about kratom is you'll know the nausea a good 5-6 grams before it turns into vomit. It's not like booze where you drink a few beers for the first time, feel great, then take a shot, vomit, and swear you'll never drink again.
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