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OfflineTomcat420
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23672245 - 09/23/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

so when is the hearing for the ban? This sucks I haven't gotten around to tried kratom, its probably really not my type lol, but I'd be happy to grow it, if it dont get banned?
Can't you order live plants???
lol order them before it gets banned, help those poor business owners they are for surely fixing to loose their money!!


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Tomcat420]
    #23672860 - 09/24/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My last kilo was poked through in early September, I already got rid of it/ used it all awhile ago not going to get busted for something that could equate to a heroin kilo. In Tx of all places.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz]
    #23672866 - 09/24/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So what happens when they ban it?  Is the DEA gonna start knocking on all the doors of people that recently bought kratom?  It'd suck if they came to my house looking for kratom and found mushies instead.... in texas of all places lol


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic]
    #23672868 - 09/24/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

gives em a reason to go after yeah just like any other illegal drug u can bet a lot of people r going to get busted.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic] * 2
    #23672951 - 09/24/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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kenetic said:
So what happens when they ban it?  Is the DEA gonna start knocking on all the doors of people that recently bought kratom?  It'd suck if they came to my house looking for kratom and found mushies instead.... in texas of all places lol



That's not realistic


Waste of time, money and resources
This ban was put in place in hopes to increase big pharmaceutical opiate income and to increase OD s and decrease population

It's all for there agenda



Good job with backlash everyone! Flex tour rights even if there crushed

Fuck oppression,  fuck the DEA for helping the world take a step back


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Kenetic]
    #23673183 - 09/24/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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kenetic said:
Is the DEA gonna start knocking on all the doors of people that recently bought kratom? 




Not likely.  They'd go after distributors and cultivators.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Enlil]
    #23673291 - 09/24/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Anybody using Kratom for arthritis or depression, do yourself a da or and read up on SAMe (s adenosyl methionine).

Anyone struggling with WD, look into gabapentin or pregabalin.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23673305 - 09/24/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The problem with those is that they're prescription only and there's no generic version of lyrica so it's obscenely expensive. I beat the withdrawals some time ago, and I haven't been depressed since I quit my last job, which was bringing me down big time. I just have chronic pain from severely broken bones and the resulting surgery, and insomnia and resulting fatigue. Kratom helps with all of that. With no side effects. I hated the different prescriptions they tried giving me for insomnia. I had a bad reaction to ambien, trazodone caused me to get horrendously congested, like unable to breathe through my nose, and benzos made me really depressed.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23673572 - 09/24/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Fight zika, yeah right. Let the immune system, with hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, do its job. Its there for a reason.




Zika isn't even the monster it's made out to be. Why wasn't Brazil worried about Zika during the olympics?
Because all the doctors there know that the birth defects attributed to Zika are actually a result of overuse of pesticides, mainly roundup.

The government won't be anything about roundup though. . . Easier to scare people off propaganda and make plants illegal instead of bite the hand that feeds.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: El Torcho]
    #23673605 - 09/24/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nah the government is too cozy with monsanto to do anything about roundup. I haven't read too much into zika but it all seems like ridiculous alarmism to me.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23673790 - 09/24/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

As much as I may respect and agree with certain aspects of these ideas I sincerely hope you guys don't include that in your emails, letters, phone calls, and awareness campaigns. We don't need medicinal herbs linked to conspiracy :tinfoil: nutsos


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23673813 - 09/24/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hell no. In my letters I just wrote that kratom is a safe and natural herbal supplement, not a recreational drug, and should remain legal.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23673866 - 09/24/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:
Figured I'd toss it out there as a friendly suggestion to everyone. Judging by your posts I wouldn't expect you to get all :tinfoil: but I definitely wouldn't be surprised with some other people.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23673980 - 09/24/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
conspiracy :tinfoil: nutsos




Hahahahahhaa lol.

I was responding to someone else who mentioned something outside the scope of your email campaign. Drink that Kool aide, bruh.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23674014 - 09/24/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

s adenosyl methionine is available without a prescription . It is very expensive though, but worth it .

Pregabalin and gabapentin are available without a prescription in Canada but unfortunately not stateside.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23674090 - 09/24/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
s adenosyl methionine is available without a prescription . It is very expensive though, but worth it .

Pregabalin and gabapentin are available without a prescription in Canada but unfortunately not stateside.



You can get neurotin without a prescription though. Its not domestic though.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar]
    #23674698 - 09/24/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

by no means do I think Kratom should be touched by the law;
HOWEVER
the only people I know that ever do or did that shit are well :uhoh: and it's personally funny to me that people who don't think they're junkies spend all their money ordering the shit.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23674751 - 09/24/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are what ?

Unless they are poor, it's unlikely anyone spends anywhere near all their money on Kratom.

Most people order kilos online and maintain their habits for a few dollars a day or less .

Unlike heroine or pill addicts, most Kratom addicts don't have any difficulty maintaining their normal lives .

Its an addiction , but it doesn't cause nearly as many problems for addicts as virtually any other addictive drug .


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23674769 - 09/24/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My states already ousted that stuff.


Is what it is.


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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23674792 - 09/24/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't consider my kratom "addiction" to be any different that my caffeine "addiction". I don't see how my kratom smoothie that I drink every morning is any worse than the whipped orange rockstar I drink during my drive to work. Now, when I was chasing the dragon, or eating 40-60mgs of oxy every day, or snorting a line of suboxone every few hours, or smoking a pack a day, those were legit addictions, but kratom isn't like that. I've kicked my opiate addictions, although the nicotine addiction is still there even though I vape now instead of smoking. But if I go a day without kratom or caffeine it doesn't make me feel shitty, it's just something I like to have.


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