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ferrel_human
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23757702 - 10/21/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
The dea has over extended their reach and overplayed their hand .
So true but how do you stop the machine? When all they do is pump more money into it to keep it going. Sometimes i get so hyped up and then i lose faith in this great country of ours. Founded by a bunch of rebels. The founding fathers were rebels. And now they turned this country into shit.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human] 1
#23757719 - 10/21/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23758985 - 10/21/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move mountains
I think you need more faith than that to move mountains.
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Asante
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23760468 - 10/22/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move mountains
Love is King. Love is an Angel. Faith and Hope are its generals.


Pain is King. Pain is a Demon. Fear and Doubt are its generals
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Asante] 1
#23764779 - 10/23/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay, gotta admit when I am wrong. All of the petitioning and public outcry seems to be having a positive effect on the whole process.
Good job guys!
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tdubz



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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Mr Piggy]
#23764912 - 10/23/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Got some family members to post on the commenting site for me. Keep posting comments and get everyone you know to try an help as well.
http://www.americankratom.org/
KRATOMCOMMENTS.ORG LAUNCHED TO ENCOURAGE LARGEST POSSIBLE RESPONSE TO DEA CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON COFFEE-LIKE HERB KRATOM
New Web Site Builds on Unprecedented DEA Reversal October 12th; From Same Pro-Kratom Team That Organized National “We the People” Petition, White House March, and Other Major Actions.
WASHINGTON, D.C. October 20, 2016 The American Kratom Association (AKA) and Botanical Education Alliance (BEA) joined forces today to launch www.KratomComments.org to make it as easy as possible for the maximum number of consumers to submit to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) by December 1st comments opposing the classification of the coffee-like herb kratom as a schedule I drug.
The huge public backlash against the DEA’s attempt to effectively ban kratom lead to the federal agency withdrawing an emergency proceeding on October 12th and opening up a comment period running through December 1st. Prior to the first-ever reversal by the DEA, AKA and BEA were instrumental in:
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz]
#23769036 - 10/25/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sent my righteous opinion to them
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: SunnyD]
#23770466 - 10/25/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree, my kilos were always 100$ for good quality shit. Only had one or two batches/strains that did not really do it for me..I just had to up the dose but I like the more stimulating strains in higher doses, around 3-9G it really matters strain and if I have tolerance. I have taken upwards of kilo/month for months on end. I don't know the legality of selling kratom on craigslist, it sounds like a good idea but then again you never really know I suppose.
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high_desert
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar]
#23770934 - 10/25/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wrote real letters to both my senators and my congressman, and was pleased when one of my senators and my congressman signed the dear colleague letters! Unfortunately, punk ass Senator Gardner didn't sign,and sent the most neutral non-substantial reply letter I've ever seen. :/
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musiclover420
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: LSDollar]
#23770974 - 10/25/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mirraco said: I agree, my kilos were always 100$ for good quality shit. Only had one or two batches/strains that did not really do it for me..I just had to up the dose but I like the more stimulating strains in higher doses, around 3-9G it really matters strain and if I have tolerance. I have taken upwards of kilo/month for months on end. I don't know the legality of selling kratom on craigslist, it sounds like a good idea but then again you never really know I suppose.
Its legal as long as you aren't clearly advertising it for consumption which many clearly do sadly. I did it a few times to make some $ back off my extra kratom.
I was selling some to a pregnant soccer mom for awhile, I even showed her my source and she still bought from me a few times for convenience.
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tdubz



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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: high_desert]
#23771318 - 10/25/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Texas senator Cornyn opposed Kratom as well and any sort of marijuana initiative.I should of emailed Ted Cruz but I'm sure he woulda said something similar I guess they don't mind that opioid addiction is wrecking havoc on the state.
Edited by tdubz (10/25/16 08:15 PM)
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ferrel_human
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz]
#23771425 - 10/25/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Texas senator Cornyn opposed Kratom as well and any sort of marijuana initiative.I should of emailed Ted Cruz but I'm sure he woulda said something similar I guess they don't mind that opioid addiction is wrecking havoc on the state.
Doesnt surprise me one bit. We love our beer and our guns. Marijuana and kratom is no good cause it doesnt kill anyone.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23771582 - 10/25/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is pretty accurate.
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PumpJackTeX
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tdubz]
#23774498 - 10/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm so glad I moved to Colorado.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23776185 - 10/27/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want kratom to stay legal.
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birdeatingspider
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: sunshine]
#23776492 - 10/27/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then do something about it. This extension has been a small victory but it is imperative that the movement does not fizzle out.
Let's keep the pressure on and keep doing what we've been doing.. make more calls, write more letters/emails. Mind the AKAs direction for format and content of such.
We can overturn this ban, or lesson Kratoms sentence.. the fda/dea is expecting us to loose interest and bend over, let's show them what we're made of and direct all raw passion their way!
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: birdeatingspider]
#23776576 - 10/27/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Consider this ban delay as our opponent being up against the ropes trying to catch his breath.
Now is the time for the all out assault. Let's launch a flurry of punches to the liver and win this fight !
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23776858 - 10/27/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's supposed to be better than heroin. I said that my friend used it for chronic back pain.
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musiclover420
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: sunshine]
#23776906 - 10/27/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sunshine said: It's supposed to be better than heroin. I said that my friend used it for chronic back pain.
Having never used heroin or any opiates really I can't compare but I will say kratom is incredibly benign when compared to heroin and even more mild opiates.
Addiction wise its right around cannabis/ coffee/ junk food for me. Mostly mental with some mild physical effects and those are only present after long periods.
Kratom in my eyes is more of a health supplement then a drug, it has a plethora of medicinal benefits and very little downsides especially compared to all the crap it can replace. I have seen many stories of people on 5+ meds just for depression, meds that actually made things worse, who replaces every single medication with just kratom and got much much better results.
It truly is a miracle plant for many
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birdeatingspider
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23777895 - 10/27/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Caffeine is three times as addictive as Kratom for me.
Every morning when I wake the very first thing on my mind is coffee. I cannot function and tend to be quite grumpy until I catch my brewed fix.
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