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ferrel_human
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23724087 - 10/10/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Last time I took kratom I felt a series of loud clicks inside my head, then something like a slippery wiggle went right from the base of my rectum up my spine, then something like a wet "CRUNCH" and a series of flops like eels inside my chest cavity.
Well then you must have been on something else.
Last time i took kratom all i heard was "this is what you are doing now" i shake my damn head and tell my exwife "leave me the fuck alone"
Bitches be trippin.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23724102 - 10/10/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am going to tell your wife you said that
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23724159 - 10/10/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm open to it being psychomatic because I am amazingly psychosomatic, my mind manifests symptoms in my body very well.
It felt real though, and for a mild opioid high I felt why risk it? You can buy spray bottles with designer fentanyls online now, why risk it.
Whether it was real or psychosomatic, in either case to was a strong signal. My psychosomatics often serve to block or enhance roads of life to pass by or take.
My Nkondi and I have hypnotically conditioned me to get an anabolic steroid rush off of a baggie of sugar free breath mints I get. I hold one up, I say solemnly "Nandrolone Deca 400 mg" and start sucking on it and i seriously get a testosterone spike out of it.
Yes thats a deliberate placebo effect. Deliberate yet effective. Aint it awesome though? Testosterone surges feel awesome.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Asante]
#23724483 - 10/10/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So typical to ban something that helps curb heroin addiction *during an epidemic*... Really? Best course of action?
Theres also a bill in place for all the 4-subbed-tryptamines. Hopefully it goes nowhere (its been around for a while now)
I have to say, i love that people are taking a stand and protecting Kratom! Last time there was an unneccesary ban, it was for a shitload of possibly medicinal (and some orally active!) thc analogues. Could have been a cure for cancer among them (and then they banned every 2cx for really no reason except some crazy guy bit someones face, BUT, he had never even touched an RC in his life. Barely even smoked weed, the guy was nuts). Its clearly yellow journalism when everytime theres an unknown drug, people are turning into literal zombies, and it must be stopped! (Like "Flakka" recently... Why push that underground and have it added to blow etc?)
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Moonshoe
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Asante]
#23724891 - 10/10/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should always trust your body man 
I was just being frisky
I want steroids now but I don't know how to get them and dont know enough to use them properly yet
More i learn the more appealing using steroids sounds though especially as I age
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Asante] 1
#23724946 - 10/10/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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"My Nkondi and I have hypnotically conditioned me to get an anabolic steroid rush off of a baggie of sugar free breath mints I get. I hold one up, I say solemnly "Nandrolone Deca 400 mg" and start sucking on it and i seriously get a testosterone spike out of it."

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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Moonshoe]
#23727715 - 10/11/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just learned the DEA legislative affairs office is telling Congress to expect the notice TOMORROW. So here's what we should do. We need calls into your congress members (House and Senate) with a message like, "The DEA's announcement regarding modified public on the proposed scheduling of Kratom is imminent. I believe no emergency scheduling is needed and am afraid the DEA will not give us, Congress and scientists ample time to weigh in. Please consider reaching out to the DEA, opposing the emergency scheduling and asking for a minimum of 90 days of comment."URGENT!
TO CONGRESS - (202) 224-3121 ESPECIALLY if they signed on to any of the Dear Colleague letters. Suggested message, "The DEA's pending announcement regarding a modified public comment period on the proposed scheduling of the herbal supplement Kratom appears imminent. We believe no emergency scheduling is needed because there is no imminent harm and the DEA has abused its authority granted by Congress. A shortened public comment period without requiring a full review of those submitted does not give kratom users, industry, Congress and scientists sufficient time to weigh in with quality information and data. I believe a comment period should be no less than 90 days.
TO DEA - (202) 307-1000. Tell them you completely oppose any emergency scheduling of kratom as it will do more harm than good. Demand that kratom be treated like all other herbal dietary supplements and be put through a proper dietary supplement review and process.
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Enjoywho
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23]
#23728055 - 10/11/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I signed the petition. But the Dea can schedule whatever they operate above the peoples vote.
I don't really care for Kratom really but I think people should be able able to do whatever they want.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Enjoywho]
#23728236 - 10/11/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said:
I don't really care for Kratom really but I think people should be able able to do whatever they want.
You sir have made a sound statement. I wish our governments felt the same way.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23728279 - 10/11/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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As long as they aren't harming anybody else what the fuck do I care. I am not able to judge. Lord knows I have my own demons.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23728499 - 10/11/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said:
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Enjoywho said:
I don't really care for Kratom really but I think people should be able able to do whatever they want.
You sir have made a sound statement. I wish our governments felt the same way. 
They do. The DEA does whatever it wants, hypocrite or not.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23728526 - 10/11/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They operate above the government. This didn't go through any level of government. The Dea just thinks it's bad and now it's becoming illegal.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: tripp23]
#23728986 - 10/11/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where did you learn this and is this current information as of Oct 11th, or old recycled info? The articles I have been reading suggest there will be time for a modified public comment. At this point that hasn't happened. Perhaps 'modified' means non-existent...
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: pslyke]
#23728992 - 10/11/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are supposed to announce the public comment period tomorrow and I have heard it could last as long as december. Not positive either though.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23729479 - 10/11/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is so fucking stupid! I have suffered chronic back pain for over a year now and kratom has greatly reduced the pain to the point where I can be a good family man and employee that actually can help where help is needed. I hope the comment period gives us at least more time and it doesn't go straight to scheduling. Meanwhile, I'm stuck still trying to find a reputable vendor that I can go through. Not only do we have to worry about "exit scams", but price, quality, and quite frankly, being in stock is an issue. If anybody wants to help out a fellow shroomer, my PM box is always welcome for new messages lol. I checked one of the old vendors and it has that same warning posted above saying "currently closed for business" and has the message about the comment period tomorrow. I'm stuck with shitty doctors that don't/won't do anything for me and then stumbled upon this beautiful, magnificent, natural cure. Quite honestly, idk how I'm going to do without it. I didn't start taking it to substitute opioid addiction or any other reason for that matter except for getting rid of pain and being able to cope with it during the simplest things that used to cause EXTREME pain. Fingers crossed ladies and gents!!
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ferrel_human
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: just_curious]
#23730095 - 10/12/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didnt think it actually worked but i toom kratom the other day and my ankle stopped hurting. Its been hurting a bunch. I walk alot at work. It definitely does work for pain.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23730271 - 10/12/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not sure how reliable this source is but I went to my store that carried opms kratom. A shipment was supposed to come in yesterday but never showed. The store owner called his distributor and they told him that November 30th was going to be there last day.
Take it as you want just spreading the news that I came across.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: ferrel_human]
#23730277 - 10/12/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't taken it in a while, but when I worked standing in one spot all day on concrete Motrin wouldn't touch my back pain, Kratom would take like 90% of the pain away and actually made me enjoy being at work. For someone who works then comes home it helps take the pain of the day away where a person can interact with their family in a positive way instead of being short and withdrawn from them because you are tired and in pain.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: NDStepp84]
#23730409 - 10/12/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For real, it doesn't kill all the pain. It does relieve it enough to cope with though. I'd much rather be on painkillers, but doctors won't see you without records and there's no law forcing these practices to submit your records.
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Re: Please Take Action to Stop the DEA from Scheduling Kratom [Re: Grey]
#23730743 - 10/12/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im hearing the DEA has set December 1rst as the new day to expect the ban
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