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Re: Microdosing [Re: Edmunter]
    #23696623 - 10/01/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Edmunter glad to hear that it is working out for you. Yesterday I had the first day of it not working for me. There were multiple vectors here that could have changed the effect. I had taken a small but noticeable dose of Aderall and had been coming off short sleep and an injury.

Usually despite how dark my mood is the dose will turn it around, this time I felt almost no change. Weird. Maybe I just need to get a better scale.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Navidson]
    #23696660 - 10/01/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I always feel every now and again you need a proper trip.

I trip using nitros oxide combined.  Its phenomenal.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: shamanizer]
    #23716027 - 10/07/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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After 2-3 weeks of Dr. Fadiman's 4th day method I decided to go for a daily 100mg microdose of Tak Mountain Cubensis. I figured the anti-addictive properties of psylocybin would help with the light "funny" feelings every time I dosed. Basically if you were to take a gram of psylocybin one day, and then take another gram the following day you wouldn't feel anything. You would basically have to double the dose to feel it the on the 2nd day. (not recommended to take moderate to hero doses on consecutive days as you need to let the reboot complete)

Taking a daily microdose in my experience allowed me to dose without feeling funny (except for day1). The healing effects are very apparent. During and after the 30 days my energy level is great. No busy-bee burn out. Mental Clarity is impeccable. All the BS/noise that an over-analyzing mind has, is pacified. Straight to the point. Honest with yourself... and others. Social interactions seem more organic. Skill level and focus improved drastically. Activities that you find the zone in like playing the guitar, singing, basketball, darts, ping pong, billiards, reading books, cleaning, art, poetry, freestyle rapping, etc. were amazing. Getting into that zone seemed effortless. Awareness heightened. HD all around.

All in all my 30 days of daily microdosing 100mg was a great experience. 30 days later I haven't felt a decline in any of the positive effects. Days of being "on my game" are common. Blessed to not have had an off day lately.

Follow your gut. If the 4th day method feels right for you then its all gravy. If you feel like the psychedelic/trippy effect is overwhelming or undesirable then a daily dose could be good for you. Experiment and share!!! Hope this shines a lil light on the subject.




That's very interesting! I would not have thought to dose more often to reduce the "funny" effects.
Thanks for sharing this :thumbup:
I went from .3 to .2 then to .1 and still find I feel a bit spacey and "off" with morning doses taken every 2nd or 3rd day. I already made a bunch of .1 capsules so going lower would be a hassle.
I think I'll try .1 daily with the weekend coming up and see how it goes. Currently feeling a bit spacey from my Friday morning dose. :mushroom2:


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Re: Microdosing [Re: subject 13]
    #23716046 - 10/07/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Great info,  I might try this. so  .01g every day.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Edmunter]
    #23716090 - 10/07/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Great info,  I might try this. so  .01g every day.




100mg or 0.1g at least for cubensis  :mushroom:
.01g would be a nanodose :tongue2: and I assume way to low for any benefit, but who knows?


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Re: Microdosing [Re: subject 13]
    #23728145 - 10/11/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ive now gone to .1g everyday and my emotions and feelings have levelled out already.  I feel normal, not just in a daze or extreming.  Had a few beers the other night and didnt have the blues the next day..........promising stuff.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Edmunter]
    #23728170 - 10/11/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ur not supposed to mix mushrooms with alcohol I have read


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23728195 - 10/11/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nah I dont believe that.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Edmunter]
    #23728280 - 10/11/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lol ok... check out the book "the fungal pharmacy"......

I tell this to people, and often they seem to hold alchohol too dear to accept it.

Alcohol never brings anything good, it's a depressant. Sure stimulant as well but no one uses it that way.

Alchohol sucks and should be banned imo. Worst shit ever.

I do not put it in my body and neither should anyone else imo


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23728527 - 10/11/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I love a beer though and DMT and Jam


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Edmunter]
    #23729229 - 10/11/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeee hawwww


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23729253 - 10/11/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I highly suggest Terence McKenna's book titled the food of the Gods


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23729376 - 10/11/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

A glass of wine every night has actually lowered my cholesterol.

No shit.

Sorry for getting off topic.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Bernard]
    #23729390 - 10/11/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Alcohol is a fine drug give me a break, just don't abuse it like a retard. People shouldn't try to inflict their irrational hatred of certain drugs onto others, it's pure projection.

That said I agree that it doesn't mix well with mushrooms or any psychedelics. There are other drugs that do but I guess I can't mention them TPE. :lol:

More to the point, microdosing mushrooms is great, it definitely has an antidepressant effect. I think the antidepressant effect is stronger and lasts longer if you actually just have a nice strong trip rather than using it everyday. I wouldn't want to build a tolerance to it such that it would make it hard to have a nice trip. Doing a monthly hefty dose is great for keeping away the blues IMO.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23729454 - 10/11/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Alcohol is a pathetic drug imo

Read the book referenced above, he covers the topic of alcohol like a poet

Alchohol dumbs the masses why do u think it's legal lmao

Think about it...

Fuck alchohol, LAME!!!

Ever noticed how your clear frame of mind and fluid though process goes down the drain when u drink the crap? ??


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23729904 - 10/11/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Alcohol is a pathetic drug imo

Read the book referenced above, he covers the topic of alcohol like a poet

Alchohol dumbs the masses why do u think it's legal lmao

Think about it...

Fuck alchohol, LAME!!!

Ever noticed how your clear frame of mind and fluid though process goes down the drain when u drink the crap? ??



Yeah right dude. I'll let you go ahead and lap up the drivel McKenna pulls out of his ass. He was a nice guy that had some interesting things to say but he's also full of a whole bunch of absolute bullshit.

Our ancestors evolved the ability to metabolize alcohol 10 million fucking years ago. Alcohol is one of the world's oldest entheogens and has religious and sacred use going back around 10,000 years in a wide variety of ancient cultures. It's been around just as long as cactus, mushrooms, or opium.

You want to read about alcohol? From LiPo to Ghalib, Belloc to Bukowski, alcohol has been friend and inspiration to poets across the world. Don't give me that alcohol is evil shit. Consumer capitalism ruins everything. Look at what legalization of marijuana has done to weed; people are already hyping and pimping it and using it to get people hooked and sell product. Fucking pathetic. This is why I'm against the legalization of drugs.

Decriminalization, sure, people should be able to take whatever they want, but never full legalization. Put LSD in the hands of advertising and marketing executives of major corporations and it would become the most evil thing on the planet. But in and of itself it is pure, distilled beauty- the motherfucking face of God. 

The current culture around alcohol is toxic, no doubt, but the drug is not evil. Drugs are tools and almost any one of them can have a positive or negative impact based on the way it is used. So many recovering alcoholics, former opiate or amphetamine addicts get this puritanical hatred of the drugs they abused. I understand the impulse to blame the drug, but it's the person that abused the substance, not the other way around. If you don't like booze that's fine, I've certainly had times in my life where I drank too much and honestly I don't keep it in the house because I have the tendency to over do it, but a good bottle of wine or bourbon now and then is an excellent thing my friend, one of life's simple pleasures.
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Re: Microdosing [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23730371 - 10/12/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:lmafo:

Alchohol is an entheogen????

Lmfao.... yeahhhhh right try again

Please do explain how alchohol is an entheogen??

Entheogens make u feel good, especially the day after u eat them. It's called an "afterglow"

Alchohol doesn't do that lol. How does alchohol expand ur Conciousness? ??

I'm not basing my thoughts off terrace alone, but also my own observations while under the influence of ethanol.

Let's get real, alchohol will never be anything close to an entheogen.

Alchohol doesn't bring u any self realizations, or any unknowns for that matter. The sides affects are mainly negative in my book. What are the positive side affects in ur book??? I'm curious?

All entheogens are illegal. Why? Cause they expand thr conciousness. They don't want us to be smarter... duh.

That's why alchohol is legal. It makes people dumb enough to say shit like u just did. Fuck.

Alchohol is an entheogen. Lmao I've heard it all now lmao.......

I agree with most of ur statement, drugs are tools. And society ruined alchohol.

I'll never agree it's an entheogen tho, and that's just from having experienced alchohol and diff entheogens.

I don't have any sort of person problems with alchohol it's just a pathetic drug in my book. Super lame what comes from it. Never was that cool to begin w it h.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23730376 - 10/12/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Btw, I'm not for marijuana legalization.

But look at how it bringing to the publics eyes, the fact that cannabis is one of the most powerful adaptogens. Many people are using it medicinally now that we're not before. I know first hand.

Lots of real data will be released about cannabis now showing how powerful it is.

It was all part of their plan to make the most money off of it tho still.

Make a black market. Then lagalize it as well.

If they made It legal to begin, they would have no black market profits.

They planned on legalization fifty years ago. They will soon start talking about all the medical applications of cannabis things will change


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23730572 - 10/12/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"Entheogen: a chemical substance, typically of plant origin, that is ingested to produce a nonordinary state of consciousness for religious or spiritual purposes."

Alcohol is fermented from plants, creates a nonordianry state of consciousness and has religious and spiritual uses dating back to antiquity. Tobacco is also an entheogen. The Taino Indians used it in religious ceremonies and if you've ever had too much nicotine you'd know that it can make you trip. Puking, shitting yourself and feeling generally unpleasant does not make something cease to be an entheogen, look at ayahuasca and all the purging it causes. Being an entheogen doesn't require you and The Almighty Terrance McKenna to like, it requires documented religious use. Any drug can put you in touch with some kind of spiritual, ecstatic state if you use it right. There are different deities they may contact, like while tryptamines can put you in touch with Logos and Sophia, opiates and dissociatives put you in touch with Thanatos and the Void, but some people look for different things in their spiritual quests. God has many faces. For somebody who claims to be open minded and enlightened you have a very myopic view of drugs.


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Re: Microdosing [Re: Raven44]
    #23730622 - 10/12/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just because a group of people has a relationship with a substance doesn't make that substance automatically something I would want to put in my body. (Ex. China and opium)

As McKenna says alcohol promotes all the bad of our culture (dominator society etc.).

I enjoy alcohol for its historic significance, Aristotle was drinking wine, but regular alcoholism is a very negative pattern.


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