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Navidson
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Microdosing
#23667364 - 09/22/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Greetings, For the past Four months I have been microdosing mushroom material. following Dr. Fadiman's recommendation I take between 0.1-0.2 g of dried material, powdered and capsuled for convenience. At first there ws the concern that it would be to 'trippy' an effect. This is not the case. The experience can be described as a more natural feeling anti depressant. On a daily level my mood improves, social anxiety decreases and I am noticeably more friendly. On several occasions I have had people recognize that I seemed to be in a better mood than normal. It also becomes easier to live in the moment and focus.
In the longer term I have noticed that my mood has stabilized improving my overall quality of life. I have made new friends and progress in areas that I had been stalling in for months.
Since you take it every 4th dayI don't think that it works in the same way a traditional anti depressant would where it builds up in the body to increase seritonin levels. Instead I think that it chemical effects only last the day you take it. However those days tend to be more positive and productive. I beleive that these 'good days' build up as a pattern to change your overall perspective.
Posting this here for anyone who has any questions for me, to talk to others who microdose regularly.
-------------------- “Passion has little to do with euphoria and everything to do with patience. It is not about feeling good. It is about endurance. Like patience, passion comes from the same Latin root: pati. It does not mean to flow with exuberance. It means to suffer.” - MZD
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Kinshino
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Awesome, I've been interested in microdosing shrooms. How long have you been doing it for? And you only have to take it every four days? Do you know what happens if you take it everyday?
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Do you know what happens if you take it everyday?
\ even better I assume
If I had the supply I would microdose shrooms or mescalin every day
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dcthestar
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I don't think you are supposed to micro dose everyday. I've read that it's not as effective and ultimately a waste of mushies or LSD.
I've been microdosing quite a bit lately and it's been great. Mixed with exercise, good diet and meditation I've seen some great results from taking .2 - .3 every third or fourth day
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subject 13
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What time of day do you take your dose? I started almost a month ago, first dose was in the morning which made me feel emotional,spacey, and sleepy. I switched to a smaller dose at bedtime, every 3rd day. However, I feel I may be missing out on some benefits by being asleep for the first 8 hours. I'm doing 0.2-0.3g every third day. I think I'll try 0.2 in the morning this weekend when I have no other obligations. Results a bit inconclusive so far, but I think it's doing me some good. A bit more motivation, like actually cooking myself good food rather than eating pre-made junk. Also I haven't touched cannabis in almost a month, which was one of my reasons for microdosing
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dcthestar
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If it was making you spacey maybe try .1 the next morning you dose. My buddy only does .1 whereas I like .2 to .3 in the morning. It gives me a lot of energy when I take it in the a.m.
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Edmunter
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The body becomes used to psilocin and you have to double up the next day to get the same effect. Thus you need to do it every 4 days so you get the most out of it.
I am beginning this tomorrow. Time for a new start.
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Navidson
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Sorry for taking so long tor reply school and work are killer this semester
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Kinshino said: Awesome, I've been interested in microdosing shrooms. How long have you been doing it for? And you only have to take it every four days? Do you know what happens if you take it everyday?
Glad to see that you're interested! I have been doing so for the past four months to great effect. To answer your next quetion no, you do not take it every four days but every fourth day. That is one day on two days off. For example if I took it Monday I would again take it on Thursday. The reason one spaces the doses out is that psilocybin builds a tolerance quickly. If you took it every day than the dose would quickly become ineffective.
Keep in mind the whole point is to take sub-perceptual amounts. You do not trip. As a 200 lb male I take between .1 and .2 grams.
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subject 13 said: What time of day do you take your dose? I started almost a month ago, first dose was in the morning which made me feel emotional,spacey, and sleepy. I switched to a smaller dose at bedtime, every 3rd day. However, I feel I may be missing out on some benefits by being asleep for the first 8 hours. I'm doing 0.2-0.3g every third day. I think I'll try 0.2 in the morning this weekend when I have no other obligations. Results a bit inconclusive so far, but I think it's doing me some good. A bit more motivation, like actually cooking myself good food rather than eating pre-made junk. Also I haven't touched cannabis in almost a month, which was one of my reasons for microdosing 
I take it mid to late morning. Taking it before bed is something I can not recommend for the following reasons: 1) At this level there is often a boost of energy which may make it hard to sleep, 2) increased levels of serotonin in the brain has been associated with lower quality sleep (less REM), and 3) it is my belief that the goal of microdosing is to acheive the clarity, focus, emotional well being, and state of mind it provides. If one were able to sleep on it you would most definitely be missing out.
The first few times I took it the state felt weird. just like getting used to any medication. That weirdness went away. However If it keeps causing you to feel spacy or emotional I would recommend lowering your dose to .1 or .2 at the highest.
Can't wait to hear about your results!
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Edmunter said: The body becomes used to psilocin and you have to double up the next day to get the same effect. Thus you need to do it every 4 days so you get the most out of it.
I am beginning this tomorrow. Time for a new start.
Good luck with your new endeavor! Please share with us on this thread how it works out for you. I am always interested in more subjective data!!
-------------------- “Passion has little to do with euphoria and everything to do with patience. It is not about feeling good. It is about endurance. Like patience, passion comes from the same Latin root: pati. It does not mean to flow with exuberance. It means to suffer.” - MZD
Edited by Navidson (09/24/16 09:31 AM)
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kyu
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Hey, in my experience (not only), microdosing doesn't lead to tolerance. On the contrary, microdosing weakens your psychological defences, and same dose may act stronger.
Also, I have had positive experience of microdosing every day for 1-2 weeks. There is a point where it's comfortable, and you feel the effect, but don't get 'overloaded' (some adverse effects, similar to tripping too often).
You can experiment a bit. Dose every day, and adjust the dose depending on wether it acts too strong/weak.
Kind regards
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littlespider
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Re: Microdosing [Re: kyu]
#23674508 - 09/24/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have had a similar experience with regular lose dose trips and a bit micro dosing. Mid morning or lunch time is good so the energy dosnt disrupt sleep.
More open, more willing to experience emotions, more conversational, optimistic etc.
On the down side I've crashed my bike a few times, find linear thinking and maths a bit harder. That's taking enough somtimes to see a difference in colour perception though. Lower doses may not have these side effects for me.
And I've managed to ditch the roll ups again
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Edited by littlespider (09/24/16 04:49 PM)
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fightingcherries



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Can't believe this can work but I'd try it maybe just macro dose fuck it daily
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PsychoKinesiS
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Im very sensisitive to shrooms and will have some psychedelic effects at even 0.3g dried. When I microdose, it basically makes whatever I'm doing that night somehow the most fun thing ever, the best music ever, the best sex ever, etc. Not like I'm drugged but that somehow everything was the best that night.
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dcthestar
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Albert Hoffman said that microdosing was perhaps the most undocumented and possibly fruitful area of research with psychedelics. He believed that with microdoses mushrooms and LSD would have replaced medicine for depression, anxiety and ADHD.
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Edited by dcthestar (09/24/16 10:15 PM)
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Navidson
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so far it has had better effects for me than any other anti-depresent or psych med I have been on. Everything else seems to have an unfortunate side effect or made things better in the shrot term and worse in the long.
-------------------- “Passion has little to do with euphoria and everything to do with patience. It is not about feeling good. It is about endurance. Like patience, passion comes from the same Latin root: pati. It does not mean to flow with exuberance. It means to suffer.” - MZD
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PsychoKinesiS
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Multiple doctors have tried to prescribe me antidepressants and I refused. It should be obvious to any recreational drug user what regularly taking a drug to raise some neurotransmitter level will do. I cannot understand how modern psychiatric medicine is still so primitive and derogatory. It's all a scam to loop you back into the medical system for more appointments, rx refills, procedures, and complications down the road, by intentionally making your health worse.
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Raven44
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Kinshino said: Awesome, I've been interested in microdosing shrooms. How long have you been doing it for? And you only have to take it every four days? Do you know what happens if you take it everyday?
I noticed no negative side effects besides possibly very slight irritability when coming off of them (by choice)
I micro dosed for at least six months straight every day religiously I would reccomend it
Micro dosing and shrooms don't go together in my book 
Mushrooms are not a drug in my book either. They r a good thing.
Edited by Raven44 (09/24/16 11:51 PM)
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shamanizer
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I've tried microdosing daily for 30 days and didn't experience any adverse effects during nor after the trial. I actually started microdosing with Dr. Fadiman's suggestion of taking 0.2g-0.5g every fourth day and it was a fantastic experience. I definitely noticed great clarity, focus, awareness, and amazing ability to "zone in" on certain activities. I did have to experiment with a proper dose as 0.3g, 0.25g, & 0.2g were just over my threshold of sub-trippy effect. 0.1g(100mg) or 0.15g(150mg) were just right. I experienced only a light elation and butterflies with 100mg. It seemed as if the room got brighter or switching to an High Definition television. Only felt a little funny. Barely anything.
After 2-3 weeks of Dr. Fadiman's 4th day method I decided to go for a daily 100mg microdose of Tak Mountain Cubensis. I figured the anti-addictive properties of psylocybin would help with the light "funny" feelings every time I dosed. Basically if you were to take a gram of psylocybin one day, and then take another gram the following day you wouldn't feel anything. You would basically have to double the dose to feel it the on the 2nd day. (not recommended to take moderate to hero doses on consecutive days as you need to let the reboot complete)
Taking a daily microdose in my experience allowed me to dose without feeling funny (except for day1). The healing effects are very apparent. During and after the 30 days my energy level is great. No busy-bee burn out. Mental Clarity is impeccable. All the BS/noise that an over-analyzing mind has, is pacified. Straight to the point. Honest with yourself... and others. Social interactions seem more organic. Skill level and focus improved drastically. Activities that you find the zone in like playing the guitar, singing, basketball, darts, ping pong, billiards, reading books, cleaning, art, poetry, freestyle rapping, etc. were amazing. Getting into that zone seemed effortless. Awareness heightened. HD all around.
All in all my 30 days of daily microdosing 100mg was a great experience. 30 days later I haven't felt a decline in any of the positive effects. Days of being "on my game" are common. Blessed to not have had an off day lately.
Follow your gut. If the 4th day method feels right for you then its all gravy. If you feel like the psychedelic/trippy effect is overwhelming or undesirable then a daily dose could be good for you. Experiment and share!!! Hope this shines a lil light on the subject.
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Edmunter
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Started day 1 in a dark cloud and felt no effecs from first dosage .25 thai cubensis.
Miraculously on day 3 the clouds lifted and I felt almost normal. I had the second dose today and await to see where it takes me.
Ive been thinking about music and started cooking for the family again. All upward triggers. When I start creating tunes again im almost happy....fingers crossed.......
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littlespider
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I've ordered some vitamin d to go along with this plan. The winter stagnation is fair setting in now...
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Edmunter
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Use vitamin B complex and Alpha brain to help you focus also.
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