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There is no "missing link" in human evolution
    #23666840 - 09/21/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just got back from south florida where I debated a lot of people about religion and ran into an alarmingly large number of people who don't believe in evolution at all.  What many of them pointed out as evidence for intelligent design was a "missing link" between the other apes we see today and the only surviving member of the genus homo.  It took 10 minutes for me to show them how there is no missing link.

All I did was simply introduce them to the now extinct members of the Homo Genus.  The most widely known of these IMO are homo habilis, homo erectus and Neanderthals.  There are many other extinct human like members from the genus homo.

It only looks like there is a "missing link" in the evolution of human beings because many of the species we evolved from are now extinct.  How did the first life form, form on earth I have no clue.  However it's easy to see how human beings aren't as mysterious as we think we are.  We are not separate from nature we are apart of nature and sitting down to study our evolutionary path simply in the last 10 million years can open your eyes to near irrefutable evidence of where human beings came from.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #23666878 - 09/22/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

my universal connection to the cosmos and the divine is through the holy spirit.  Through God and Jesus Christ, I dont know where you came from.  :typingdog:


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: sprinkles]
    #23666890 - 09/22/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #23666987 - 09/22/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: sprinkles]
    #23667210 - 09/22/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23668372 - 09/22/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Explain the Cambrian explosion. Also, Darwin had a nifty little test in Origins of Species that was the test of irreducible complexity. By his own test, his theory breaks down.  Along those same lines, the complexity and "intelligence" of DNA also points to a Creator. Anytime we find coded information, the source is always an intelligence. Thats exactly what we find in DNA, coded information. It requires far more faith to believe all of this spontaneously came into being than it does to believe in an intelligent designer or God.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #23668443 - 09/22/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I believe in some sort of super cosmic higher intelligence, I like the term 'The All'. But I also agreed with Cog's op.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #23668653 - 09/22/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I just got back from south florida where I debated a lot of people about religion and ran into an alarmingly large number of people who don't believe in evolution at all. 




right till they or their kids need genetic therapy for a disease.
or someone they know gets exonerated by DNA evidence;
or they need an antibiotic, but 'their' disease, has bacteria that have developed antibiotic resistance.
Or they realize their food is mostly hybrids and GMOs.
etc.

"alarmingly large number of people"
unfortunately alarming - but no longer surprising
IQ is on bell curve,
so half of folks are below average,
and average is not so good.
Then TV, religion, media, video games, etc. dumb folks down further,
and much education is geared toward passing tests - not developing critical thinking skills.
Lastly, the consumer society tends to emphasize a set of qualities ad values, which are not the most important. If our values had proper priorities, rationality would get much greater emphasis.

So we have this result:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jesus%2C+dinosaur+theme+park&t=h_&iax=1&ia=images


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: laughingdog]
    #23668679 - 09/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lmfao what the fuck is that.... Jesus Dinosaur theme Park , wow.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Withinity]
    #23668692 - 09/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"WTF is That?"

indeed

only in the "greatest country on earth" as our politicians never tire of telling us


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: laughingdog]
    #23668699 - 09/22/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what made this country great is no more.


people only borrowed money when they absolutley had to, and they HATED doing it.  now everything is bought on credit and promise to pay in the future.

people loved God.  not so much anymore.


Family values went down the shitter.

Rampant immorality

We chose money over morals daily.

Fuck this shithole I call Amexica.  get me the fuck out of here.  better yet come quickly Jesus.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: sprinkles]
    #23668726 - 09/22/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: sprinkles]
    #23668727 - 09/22/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I find extensive magic beauty and wonder in the natural order.  I don't no stupid simple religion to explain existence and my place in it.  I like osho because their is something simple in the way he explain being.  But he was also a loony for example implying he was the second coming of Buddha.  Plus he started a movement which is stupid and dangerous.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 1
    #23668849 - 09/22/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Explain the Cambrian explosion. Also, Darwin had a nifty little test in Origins of Species that was the test of irreducible complexity. By his own test, his theory breaks down.  Along those same lines, the complexity and "intelligence" of DNA also points to a Creator. Anytime we find coded information, the source is always an intelligence. Thats exactly what we find in DNA, coded information. It requires far more faith to believe all of this spontaneously came into being than it does to believe in an intelligent designer or God.



this is so ridiculous
dna code does not mean code as in
you take linguistic meaning and code it into a cypher and then decypher that code and see the original meaning.

dna nucleotide sequences can be expressed into peptide sequences without ever having been coded from those sequences.
there is no thing behind it except evolution from simpler forms.
this may be  too hard to understand, but the people who work with this know they are not working with a cypher.
It is OK not to know or not to understand, but what you are saying has no kernel of science to it.

You should be advised that to repeat it is dumb.

dumb people should not show off how stupid they are.

DNA was not coded,
it evolved and accumulated,
the results, that did not die before mating and procreating, persist in future generations.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23668864 - 09/22/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They think some form of memory may be encoded in DNA.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23668889 - 09/22/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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They think some form of memory may be encoded in DNA.



By 1975 they stopped taking that notion seriously,
No transduction from experience into dna sequences or rna sequences happens,
no storage exists for such a thing
and no player exists for such a thing
DNA or RNA sequences are not the medium for storing memory of any kind.
they are only created by copying, they are only copied from eachother.
nothing gets in between except for destructive accidents like heat or radiation, or chemical disruption.
nothing writes the sequences
memory is not related to it.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23668899 - 09/22/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Morel Guy said:
They think some form of memory may be encoded in DNA.



By 1975 they stopped taking that notion seriously,
No transduction from experience into dna sequences or rna sequences happens,
no storage exists for such a thing
and no player exists for such a thing
DNA or RNA sequences are not the medium for storing memory of any kind.
they are only created by copying, they are only copied from eachother.
nothing gets in between except for destructive accidents like heat or radiation, or chemical disruption.
nothing writes the sequences
memory is not related to it.




Mutations occurs with male sperm as aging occurs.  Old men having kids alters future generations.  My Dad's dad was about 40 when my dad was born and my Dad was 40 when I was born.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: sprinkles]
    #23669573 - 09/22/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what made this country great is no more.


people only borrowed money when they absolutley had to, and they HATED doing it.  now everything is bought on credit and promise to pay in the future.

people loved God.  not so much anymore.


Family values went down the shitter.

Rampant immorality

We chose money over morals daily.

Fuck this shithole I call Amexica.  get me the fuck out of here.  better yet come quickly Jesus.



I think people used to fear god more then they loved him but that's beside the point.  While we no longer live in the 1950's highschool text book version of america, it's still one of the best places to live on earth.  Take a trip to south america or asia and come back to the USA and you'll be grateful kids don't walk around with assless pants and shit in the street when nature calls.


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Re: There is no "missing link" in human evolution [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #23669882 - 09/23/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol done.


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