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is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK
    #23664497 - 09/21/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hi help identifying these please?
picked them today in sunny england.

some have the nipple some don't, all bunched together. Doesn't bevel underneath as much as i thought it maybe should.

I know there are spore tests and bruising tests but not sure how these are done?

not sure if I've uploaded the pictures properly, I'm rubbish with this coding lark





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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23664546 - 09/21/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes m8 enjoy..


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23664566 - 09/21/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You have Liberty Caps and at least one Panaeolina.  The ones with a pronounced nipple on the cap should be separated from the ones that have a darkening brown margin.  Spore print the ones without nipples.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23664672 - 09/21/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

which one is the pan? - 1 in from the top ? or 2 in from bottom of picture? coz I did wonder that too to begin with , then i zoomed in. cheers


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“My brother explained it very well one time he said.... Have you ever noticed , that as we build the fire of understanding brighter , the greater the volume of darkness that is revealed? Or here I’ll put it for you in geometric modal, As the sphere of understanding expands , the surface area of ignorance necessarily grows ever larger?” —-Terence McKenna


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23664826 - 09/21/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think all are libs.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23664953 - 09/21/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Me too.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Byrain]
    #23664980 - 09/21/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

think the ones she talking about with darkening brown margins are the ones I pointed out, 1 in from the top, 2 in from the bottom of 2nd picture are the possible pans, think she may  be right 2bh , the more I look, she said one, but there are 2 possibly 3 (6 in from the bottom of pic) that fit her description

more pictures of them now would be good


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23664997 - 09/21/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it even looks like there might be blue staining on the stipe of the one that's third from the bottom.  maybe. 

is the "darkening margin" really just a sign of being hygrophanous?


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: relic]
    #23665004 - 09/21/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I want to say they all are , but now she got me wondering, I do know that libs do not have to have a pronounced nipple tho


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23665186 - 09/21/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They're libs.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Joie]
    #23666570 - 09/21/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So to be safe, cast out one from top two from bottom?

They were all bunched so close together, is it normal for two types of shrooms to be right next to eachother? I thought they grew as a "family" lol

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23666590 - 09/21/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No reason really, they're all liberty caps. Panaeolina are not toxic either. Different species can grow side by side.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Byrain]
    #23666692 - 09/21/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for response... I'm in for a good day today then !


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23667282 - 09/22/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So today I woke up looked at my shrooms photoed above to find that some had turned black overnight, some were unchanged and some had maggots/larvae on them! Is this normal for liberty caps? I kept them on kitchen roll in the garage overnight. They didn't look appetising at all so I binned them. I did a spore print on a random one and I'd say it was more brown than purple, again is that right? For spore print I just cut the stem of and put gills down on white paper with a shot glass over the top. Should I be drying them out if I'm not consuming the day I pick them? Cos it's my first time hunting I'm nervous about eating the wrong stuff and dying a slow and painful death.

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23667308 - 09/22/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

As a newcomer, you should be spore printing everything you find before consuming.  When I store mushrooms (while trying to determine species), I place them in a container lined with paper towel and a put a lid on them, stick in fridge.  Cold  and something to absorb moisture will slow their decay.

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23667346 - 09/22/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for quick reply.

Just to confirm then, my method of spore printing is correct? And am I looking for purple then? How purple is it? Given quite a few confirmations above that the shrooms in the photo are indeed libs, I'm guessing the spore print I got should be what I'm looking for every time (even though it wasn't as purple as expected)?


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23667374 - 09/22/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The print can range from purple/brown to purple/black, mostly depending on the density of spores collected in the print. The best way to print mushrooms is with foil and then cover them with a glass, cup, plate or w/e else you have that will hold in the moisture. And yea, no reason to eat rotting mushrooms, that just might make you sick.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Byrain]
    #23667507 - 09/22/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's very common with maggots in liberty caps. The mushrooms should be dried immediately and your garage was probably not dry enough. Dry inside where it's room temperature and this will go better. Try to place the mushrooms separated, if some caps are stuck together they will dry slower, giving the maggots more time to eat.

If you see that lots of the mushrooms gills are eaten when you pick them, a quick drying process is more important. The drying can be speed up by placing the paper warmer, with a lamp or other heat source above or under it for example.

When the mushrooms get to a certain dryness, the maggots evacuate to find water, which is futile... and you find them as small dry "grains of rice" stuck to the paper, the table, floor etc. up to a meter or two away. If you dry hundreds of libs, there will sometimes be just as many dry maggots :tounge:



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23667875 - 09/22/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poor flies never stood a chance. Seriously can try getting adult flies out of those especially from liberty caps? Would be interesting to know what flies are eating them. :laugh:  You probably could stick a bunch of sacrifice libs in a plastic bag and seal it so they rot and flies have enough time to mature, pupate and turn into a fly. Afterwards you can freeze the adult specimens and stick the immature forms in glass vials of 70% isopropyl alcohol. I'm sure you could find someone Sweden or another European country that would be willing to identify any specimens for you.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Byrain]
    #23670832 - 09/23/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it would be interesting to know if it's some kind of flying insect or something else, like wingless springtails (Collembola).

I also have another thought about these larvae. If they eat so much psilocybin, can they accumulate it, making themselves poisonous and unattractive to predators just like some other larvae do? I had an idea of collecting a couple of grams of these and send to someone willing to eat them. I'm not so enthusiastic about trying this myself :wink:


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23712197 - 10/06/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

they aint maggots from flies.............

they from the common uk fungus gnat, which I guess, plays role in spore spreading,so bonus really. no single lavae eats a whole mushroom,a slug will, but they too spread spores , if cap its soaked and been hanging around then troubles , they make it black gooey,best to leave them.. if they turned black , then they must of been drenched and not dried properly, larvae swimming around in black gunk ...


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712203 - 10/06/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lots of arthropod species associate with fungi. Mites, gnats, flies, beetles, you name it.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23712208 - 10/06/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yes but for liberty cap... no flies ... native to a particular type of fungus gnat joie , it really is all I'm trying to say

more point is just, once transformed they make good lil spore spreaders, so best not to compare them with maggot spawning shit eating flies

lets just stick with the particular point at hand joie , which is what gets inside of the liberty cap, not bluebottles or beetles or what ever else 



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712216 - 10/06/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just flicking through Brock for insect families in the British Isles whose common names reference fungus and closely related ones, we have 4 species of Tetratomidae, 8 Endomychidae, 8 Erotylidae, 15 Mycetophagidae, 17 Melandryidae, 22 Ciidae, 52 Keroplatidae, 93 Leiodidae, 56 Latridiidae, 103 Cryptophagidae, 266 Sciaridae - but that is only a small fraction of mycophagous insects!


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Joie]
    #23712220 - 10/06/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Experience? Show me what you are talking about, some fungus gnats you IDd.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23712245 - 10/06/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712248 - 10/06/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

True, I did miss the point if it was a whole load of that. I thought you were claiming to know that those are Fungus Gnats! My bad. :smile:


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23712250 - 10/06/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

im sorry to for jumping gun... its ok, we always get our wires crossed, I'm use to it.. :tongue2:

not unless that was sarcasm.... because I know for a fact they are fungus gnats, as shown in the pic 

infact , to shut me up just do an experiment, breed a couple and you'll see it is the same


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712344 - 10/06/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The pic you posted is the top Google result for fungus gnat. There should be credible information on this site and anything not quite right should be corrected, so now maybe someone wants to go and look into Fungus Gnats and understands that those are not the only larvae they might find. I don't want to stress you. You can relax.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23712602 - 10/06/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to make valid points? - what I have noticed about you joie...

here I shall write it louder for u

THE LAVAE FROM THE LIBERTY CAP THE 'COMMON' FUNGUS GNAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR,WHICH IS IDENTICLE TO THE ONE IN THE GOOGL PIC EXAMPLE.. DID I CLAIM AUTHORITY OVER IT ? NO

YOU TELLING ME, U CANT TELL THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE COMMON FUNGUS GNAT LARVAE OF BRITTAN TO THE SHITTING EATING FLY MAGGOT

U THINK I LIKE TO WASTE MY TIME GIVING OUT POINTLESS INFO ? DICKHEAD. TAKE A LARVAE OUT FROM THE CAP,OR LEAVE IT IN THERE WITH MOISTURE, GROW IT AND WATCH IT BECOME WHAT IS SHOWN ..


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712628 - 10/06/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This guy probably can't read this, says he blocked me, but ftr wtf was that? He stresses, so I'm not vindictive, have asked the mods to have a word.


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    #23712803 - 10/06/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23712809 - 10/06/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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nope buts that's the type of gnat ive seen sitting on top of the liberty cap, infact it was near enough identicle, I had a choice of fruit flies, daddy long legs aka the crane fly, but no ! that's the choice because it is the one fuck head!... now you can go fuck yourself because you know fuck all 2bh , infact your now blocked for forever being an annoying cunt

you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to know more than you - what I have noticed about you joie... 




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Let me get this straight...you insult Joie because he doesn't think every maggot in a shroom is a Fungus Gnat? Holy shit dude, calm down


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Patch nuke]
    #23713049 - 10/06/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

we were talking about liberties containing a specific style of larvae.... and yes every single one is from a particular common uk fungis gnat... that is its mutual buddy and home ..

end of story.. do the experiment yourself.at least where Psilocybe semilanceata is concerned.. do it then have an opinion against me

the guys been doin my nut in for a few weeks now

Crain flies or the 'daddy long legs' are around on the habitat but the lavae is buried underground... no other type of gnat nor fly will use a place the common fungis gnat has already claimed for its offspring! it really is that simple!

so for anyone to have an opinion on a fact is just asking for a punch in the face..

maggots = blue bottle flies - their job is to decompose dog shite , food, dead animals etc

lavae = fungus gnats - as joie has stated, there are many species of,even went all out for us and gave us the latin names lol... , but for the mushroom we talking about, its a particular one 

more types of larvae yes, but beetles /other types of flies - which focus on the decomposition of dead wooden material or fruit , larvae is usually buried under the soil or under wet caps/plant matter. 


but , for the liberty , its owned by the uk's COMMON FUNGIS GNAT,which didn't need to be engaged, the picture to show the one I mean, and its the one on the left. small enough to climb in and lay the eggs..

why cant this be grasped, because if u had no one would be questioning it. do it yourself, transform one.

each creature goes by habit from its intention , it goes by what it previously did and doesn't usually change. your not going to get other creatures laying their shit where other shit is.. they each choose a particular place... the case of this type of little gnat what ever the fuck u wana call it, is the liberty cap, everything about is suitable , there durable , more so than most out there around them. they make a good strong warm cozy bed for this particular style of larvae .  I'm sure other mushrooms out there that it has chosen aswel as choosing the ground where moisture and composted soil.. but to my experience its been mostly the cap of semilanceata out in the country, that seem to belong to the one in the picture,

but maggots just make you think of flies eating shit, maggot and larvae come from 2 different, although similar, insects 2bh 




and all I was saying about them, is that they are useful and make good for spreading spores.. that was my one and only point, but this dude will try to undermine any chance he getsm today aint the day , was trying to remain positive but always the one I guess.........................................................




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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23713304 - 10/06/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I took this photo (right is full size) of this liberty cap larvae. Maybe it shows some features making it identifiable?



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23713306 - 10/06/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

erm.. aside from sarcasm you could keep the little twat as a pet? then see for your self? jk

certainly not a maggot, theres big differences between each insect larvae and maggot trust,why doesn't anyone know this? surly u have been fishing?.. 

don't have to take my word tho, all you have to do is google fungi's gnat larvae and it will show up as exactly that ... feel free, that's what I did, that's how I found out when I wondered what these lil things were few yr back, ive seen the actual things before, on one occasion just before sun set, there the little thing sat on top of the cap, it was a picture but I didn't have a cam on me... typically. the 'fly' itself is smaller than shit flies, and daddy long legs , the Crain fly which u will also see on the habitat, but it lays its larvae in the ground and looks more catapillaish , flies maggots, beetles undergrowth of woods or near, so you just narrow it down to the basic dominator of the habitat and that's what is left.. every season, always those style larvae

sure tho, experience or research don't count for fuck all these days do they joie 

this was my point on experience that joie just couldn't wait to undermine. getting abit fed up with the self righteous arrogance that you simply couldn't google fungus gnat larvae yourself to find out that in fact it is what it says it is.

one thing ive noticed about members here that have fancy trusted identification or whatever titles, is that , even the source of experience is wrong to them,

each one I guarantee u that come out of them caps are from the same thing......

great snap btw... something I actually mean.

here no doubt people to lazy I saved u the hard work 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus_gnat - start quote ''The larvae feed on plant roots and fungi, helping in the decomposition of organic matter (KARMA FUCKING FREE EH?!). The adults are 2–5 millimetres (0.079–0.197 in) long, and are important pollinators of plants and carriers of mushroom spores"...

if joie wana get all Latin on our arse's fine , cool, I cant see that annoying shit anyway.

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    #23713357 - 10/06/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Looks pretty much like a Fungus Gnat, can't swear it but...

I did not argue that there isn't a particular species of Fungus Gnat on libs, but I guess I was doubting his experience. He doesn't demonstrate reliability, or anything, is all, and the UK thread is a shambles. :shrug: If I establish, which shouldn't be difficult checking some mushrooms and IDing larvae and any adults, that he is right on the point of all larvae on libs being a given species of Fungus Gnat, not that it relates to the way he lashes out, and not that I was here to argue that point, still I'll come here and say so. This link might be helpful. http://sciaroidea.info/

If I'm blocked he doesn't see it unless maybe I'm quoted, so that's useful. :laugh:

His posts above have been heavily edited so that they are less offensive, so it is nice no longer to be thought as bad as that. When he does that but doesn't address it, it doesn't really unsay the things, and leaves a disingenuous record. I know it's not something he can control, but it would be useful if he was not very quick to hurl a stream of insults. At least maybe I was a lightning rod and he won't lose it with other posters.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23713668 - 10/06/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to make valid points? - what I have noticed about you joie...

here I shall write it louder for u

THE LAVAE FROM THE LIBERTY CAP THE 'COMMON' FUNGUS GNAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR,WHICH IS IDENTICLE TO THE ONE IN THE GOOGL PIC EXAMPLE.. DID I CLAIM AUTHORITY OVER IT ? NO

YOU TELLING ME, U CANT TELL THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE COMMON FUNGUS GNAT LARVAE OF BRITTAN TO THE SHITTING EATING FLY MAGGOT

U THINK I LIKE TO WASTE MY TIME GIVING OUT POINTLESS INFO ? DICKHEAD. TAKE A LARVAE OUT FROM THE CAP,OR LEAVE IT IN THERE WITH MOISTURE, GROW IT AND WATCH IT BECOME WHAT IS SHOWN ..



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 2
    #23713680 - 10/06/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you make yourself look exactly like you do, PsyMindz86.  nobody else does it for you so you should own it rather than blaming others (or just blaming Joie).

i assume one of the reasons that Joie challenges some of the information you propose is because you don't use sources to back your assertions.  you present information as fact and get pissy when someone challenges you, but logical and scientific discussions are conducted using sources to back up information.  it's not a vendetta, it's in the interest of having accurate information for others to view and absorb.

case in point: "maggots = blue bottle flie...lavae [sic] = fungus gnats".  taxonomically speaking, all maggots are larvae.  those two terms are not mutually exclusive.  maggots = larvae.  maggots = larvae no matter what species the egg from which it hatched came from. 

your claim that "no other type of gnat nor fly will use a place the common fungis gnat has already claimed for its offspring! it really is that simple!" doesn't seem to be so simple in the real world, as things often aren't (simple, that is).  i'd venture that everyone who collects Pleurotus ostreatus, Laetiporus sulpheurus/cincinnatus, and many other edible species finds larvae--maggots--of many different species in those fungi.  i've found a couple different kinds of maggots and at least two different types of beetles eating the same specimen before.

i hope this goes a little way to showing you that it's not a personal thing when people challenge the information you present; it's an accuracy thing.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: relic]
    #23713693 - 10/06/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why should I provide a source you lazy twat eh? just google fungus gnat larvae and go look your self, can u use your mind to make your own comparison so I don't have to copy and past all over the place! be realistic will ya ! what r u his cousin or something?


more smart arses .. maggot looks different to the typical larvae of a gnat was all I was trying to say, if u want to get fancy with terminologies coolio ...

yes other mushrooms maybe who cares.. this topic is liberty.. now piss of you annoying fly... lol go and spread some spores...

which was my only positive thing contributed on this page befor it was blasted by all its creditability  -the fact that they spread spores....

I edit my shit all the time - your an annoying fuck - that's staying .. just to show u I couldn't give a fuck about offending you, I dint want to offend others joie that's why I thought twice..

I just simply said at top of page, its fungus gnat and they spread spores, don't diss them


I don't care for its fucking name, I just know its the same thing in the libs and has been that way for a few years and probably always has!!)

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23713722 - 10/06/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Looks pretty much like a Fungus Gnat, can't swear it but...

I did not argue that there isn't a particular species of Fungus Gnat on libs, but I guess I was doubting his experience. He doesn't demonstrate reliability, or anything, is all, and the UK thread is a shambles. :shrug: If I establish, which shouldn't be difficult checking some mushrooms and IDing larvae and any adults, that he is right on the point of all larvae on libs being a given species of Fungus Gnat, not that it relates to the way he lashes out, and not that I was here to argue that point, still I'll come here and say so. This link might be helpful. http://sciaroidea.info/

If I'm blocked he doesn't see it unless maybe I'm quoted, so that's useful. :laugh:

His posts above have been heavily edited so that they are less offensive, so it is nice no longer to be thought as bad as that. When he does that but doesn't address it, it doesn't really unsay the things, and leaves a disingenuous record. I know it's not something he can control, but it would be useful if he was not very quick to hurl a stream of insults. At least maybe I was a lightning rod and he won't lose it with other posters.





others see what you mention, Joie, and his reactions don't jive with your posts, imo. 



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more smart arses .. maggot looks different to the typical larvae of a gnat was all I was trying to say, if u want to got fancy with terminologies coolio ...

yes other mushrooms maybe who cares.. this topic is liberty.. now piss of you annoying fly... lol go and spread some spores...

which was my only positive thing contributed on this page befor it was blasted by all its creditability

I edit my shit all the time - your an annoying fuck - that's staying .. just to show u I couldn't give a fuck about offending you, I dint want to offend others..




you offend everyone who is interested in accurate information.

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23713742 - 10/06/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Looking at links and photos of Fungus Gnats and larvae in mushroom gills suggests he's probably right about it and it was pointless for me to say all those things. I am not pissed off so I might as well cool it in this thread.

Sorry for doubting your experience, PsyMindz. Just please quit losing it, you don't have to type any insults, and you know they aren't true, they're stupid. If I do find anything interesting in a liberty cap I'll report it here, probably some kind of fungus gnat larvae.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Joie]
    #23713784 - 10/06/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

cool and so will I,

if I had reason to doubt  would of been honest with the doubt, I'm not here to try and fool you

and if I'm wrong about anything u see , by something you know from source,experience , then u tell me. coz i wana be certain not half hearted


oh and relic keep out of other people lover affairs and tiffs because , usually there's a whole lot under the surface your not aware of

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23714986 - 10/07/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #23715248 - 10/07/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bradysia is what i usually get in mine those white larvae, and also some small black beetles i can't identify i only know the flying one because some of mine actually survive n fly about like maniacs but only on huge hauls, i do see some variation but the majority are Bradysia n Sciaridae, you can get rid of every single one of them on low heat door open in the oven within minutes on tinfoil then dry as normal i discovered this when i got the big hauls because it was getting silly with the flies


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23715429 - 10/07/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bradysia, Sciaridae CALL IT WHAT U LIKE , IT = fungus gnat genus regardless

no beetle lays it in there, sure u may c those tiny ones from time to time, they everywhere tho, and they wouldn't of arrived from hatching eggs in the cap...  its home to the fungus gnat, that's the thing that claims it and gets their first.... whether mutually or not , who knows... but I know 100 % that the cap is home to it

they don't cause me any problems.. and as I keep saying, respect them because they actually aid in the spreading of spores..............

having huge hauls, the chances of gathering insects that were passing by are high! like you, 'huge hauls' is where I learn this. but natively speaking ok, its the dam freakin fungus gnat , with a symbiotic purpose no doubt


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23715614 - 10/07/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bradysia, Sciaridae CALL IT WHAT U LIKE , IT = fungus gnat genus regardless



:yeahthatsfunny:
You don't even know what you are talking about...

Fungus gnats is not a genus, it's not even a family, it consist of several families, hundreds of genuses and thousands of species represented in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus_gnat

I could agree with it being some kind of fungus gnat, I have also seen those around libs, so it's a clue, but not evidence or even close to evidence given how hard it is to identify larvae. You have this major hangup about "fly", as if Byrain thought it was a common house fly or anything like that. He and nobody else did. We can clearly see that it's not a maggot.

You have edited every reply you made in this thread... For what purpose?
Google cache reveals that you really went berserk here. You should apologize and don't try to argument without better evidence/rhetoric in the future.

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that's the type of gnat ive seen sitting on top of the liberty cap, infact it was near enough identicle, I had a choice of fruit flies, daddy long legs aka the crane fly, but no ! that's the choice because it is the one fuck head!... now you can go fuck yourself because you know fuck all 2bh , infact your now blocked for forever being an annoying cunt




Wow.

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I keep saying, respect them because they actually aid in the spreading of spores



And the evidence for this is? They eat the gills with the spores since the spores contains small drops of oil, very good energy. The gnats is therefore not very helpful...


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23715927 - 10/07/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I ment  that is generally the type of gnat where th young will feed already dead decaying matter hence 'fungus gnat, whether the Bradysia or Sciaridae there really aint that much difference apart.. so its easier to refer it as the fungus gnat, at least for me 

wrong.. they do not eat the gills straight off, even when they start its not enough to damage, what you don't want is soaked decomposing mushrooms with those in,.  self decomposing naturally does it then take advantage, then they eat the soaked 'already' decaying matter - hence why I leave those out,no need to pick a decomposing mushrooms,they end up black and gooey as this process happen.. they start to feed easier (by that time they would of grown abit - but not enough to consume a whole cap,slug will do more in an hour than what they will, ! , that's why you will get them in healthy looking mushrooms still ,but untouched... , crawl out and become pupae, they transform into adult when warm weather. - did  a lil more research, learn somethin new everyday..   

but nice try, again trying to discredit for no reason.. ive already made countless comparisons of larvae and what it belongs to and so should of you by now.

edit - my shit is always getting edited... when the gnat goes to lay,take off to the next cap,, this is when the spores can be potentially spreaded.

same goes for the dung beetle... the spores are spreaded when it rolls it away, buries it... mycelium connections can be made... - but I spose you'll find holes in this too.

I use to think the slug was a liberty cap problem, they are ina way, but not  , those holes sometimes seen on a cap are from such insect,not larv, why do I not consider a problem anymore? because all that slime will effectively leave a spore trail on the soil, the weight of it, will flush the spores to the near surface, sometimes the liberties will grow in trails , almost following each other - like a snail trail.. just a thought - personal observation .

please don't try to challenge me and assume I don't know what I'm talking about, I have plenty of time to research... from the experience to confirm that in fact it belonged to the insect at hand, there are many levels to symbiotic behavior... research yourself, that's a good lad. :thumbup:

what do u insit on avoid being told learnt knowledge, I'm the one sharing knowledge to you , yet your still persisting.

if I didn't no what I was talking about, I wouldn't of started talking about it... wow. the dust had settled but it looks like u wana start it again, wel I don't so .....
have a nice evening now wont u



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23716002 - 10/07/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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please don't try to challenge me and assume I don't know what I'm talking about...






No.  That is not how science works.  That is the opposite of how it works.  If you can't provide a source and violently belittle/berate someone in a conversation, you lost before you started.  Back up your claims with some sources like a civilized and intelligent person please.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #23716012 - 10/07/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

and like I said.. pig,joie had been getting on the tits anyways , don't be lazy and research yourself.. like I did.. the experience is why I initially did.. I'm not doing all the work for you.

lazy pig, cuuuh making me copy and paste stuff just to prove a point, u think I give a fuck for your lazy ignorance..

those that cant swear by it are those that havnt bothered to tuck into research.. so get off facebook, and go do some.

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23722752 - 10/09/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I took this photo (right is full size) of this liberty cap larvae. Maybe it shows some features making it identifiable?






Common name Fungus gnats or sciarid flies. Scientific names Bradysia and other species









only matter of time till u encounter the dude sitting on a cap - much smaller to the bluebottle fly and its 'maggot'. its more gnat like coz size but..... 

but main point was and the only one I really gave a shit about was,  - they make potential spore spreaders.....

now f off all of u


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23722826 - 10/09/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: fuzzywarbles] * 2
    #23723465 - 10/09/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree, this is out of hand, people need to be banned who flame like that, simple as that, i've kept quiet a long time, there's been a few cases i've seen in the past few months and posts have been edited or removed by mods n that's just the ones they catch, he edits the rest himself because he knows it's wrong and too much.

I'm a very positive person, but it's starting to really piss me off now, every single person that disagrees is automatically an assailant attacking him.

The guy was manageable last year just chatted a lot of rubbish which i could put aside, this year has been total hell, absolutely spammed the shit out of the UK thread, abused me and other members with sly digs and is generally just filling threads with absolutely deluded shit and misinformation about mycology.

I am not a negative person, so for me to say something it means it's getting way out of hand, attacking other members all the time, the liberty cap thread is literally in the majority just absolute nonsense posts by him, pages after pages of spam and misinformation while i'm trying to keep it all legit so people don't get ill or you know, waste their time by chucking away perfectly good mushrooms.

It's not just him n one person, he's been flaming this entire season for absolutely no reason because people don't agree with the misinformation or opinion, i woke up this morning and actually felt like reporting him and i never do that, there is so many fucking posts what are negative or just complete deluded rubbish it's unreal.

I learned a lot from the first liberty cap threads, let me tell ya.

But my god i'm glad i started then and not now because there is no way i would of learned anything with all the misinformation provided by him.

It takes NOTHING to be humble, if i'm wrong, i learn from it and say nothing, or thank the person for the correct information, this guy just straight up calls you a cunt or another childish response in the cases when he's wrong, when he's right he will attack you personally and belittle you constantly reminding you you're wrong.

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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23723506 - 10/09/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I only wish i could clear every single post he's made from that UK thread so it's an actual liberty cap thread, it's the ramblings of a mad man, daily with an occasional denial of a new users blatant liberty caps being something else.

It's just shit i don't wanna see on this forum. one of the very little places i can go knowing there is nice humble people, it's becoming a fucking joke, a troll i can deal with, some one this egotistical i just can't deal with, it's so annoying to the point i wanna just quit the entire thing and start again so it's an on topic thread, the season has literally just got into swing now and the vast majority of the posts prior have been total misinformation and questionable ramblings.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724450 - 10/10/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

blazey... and others just cant handle truth... I said that u open the thread far to early and u cry like this ?

there were many caps being id 50 % of which I was 100 % about were wrong... but for noobs how can anyone be 100 % without a spore print, if anything I was being carful... some didn't not look like libs. end of , would u like me to recal the libs I was uncertain about ?

your calling me ramblings something from a mad man ?

explain... do that after u unfriend me from face book, your nothing but a but hurt bandwagon jumper.. your just pissed because your hauls are tiny and taking it out on me... , its not my problem if u don't have the mental capacity to understand where I come from


state here blazey .. where I have been mis informing people, please do  ... il be waiting for these responses.. you don't make claims like that and think u can get away with trying to make me look a cunt, just because u have no clue with what's going on..  wiv what I say, burn the witch at the stake is what this feels like...



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23724494 - 10/10/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Enough already!  Jesus!  You've ruined this thread psymindz.

Maybe you need to step back and regain your composure.  We have a rant/rage page so you don't have to keep dragging this thread around by it's nostrils.  :flowers:


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 1
    #23724532 - 10/10/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The thread has been opened on the first finds regardless of quantity for the past decade, no idea what you're going on about now, don't even have you on 'Facebook' and if i do, you must act completely different on there because i wouldn't keep people with that attitude, either that or the account you use is entirely fictional) the vast majority of the posts are negative, as is this one.

I don't care what i get i go for the fresh air and mycology, as i've already stated, if i cared about that i would go to a better spot not one that i know is literally only microclimates, it's just convenient to go there and get everything at once.

This misinformation is impossible to find, since every single post is edited and nobody has a clue what was originally said, one day it's one thing the next minute it's changed, i don't edit mine because i only say what i feel is needed, editing just shows what people are saying is right, there is nothing wrong with the thread, well there is, but it would be nearly all finds or questions related to hunting if it wasn't 20 pages of spam mixed up in it all.

How am i 'jumping on a bandwagon' why would a moderator/admin warn you if you wasn't being hostile? Every single time some one disagrees the digs start, people come on here for mycology related things n get attacked personally, they don't come on here to do this, sit arguing with people, this is the hunting n identification forum, it's supposed to be accurate information not just to chat about anything the only reason i'm writing these messages on it is because nothing gets done about it and you refuse to stop the negativity.

Done with this one now just rambling on man i'm all about positivity it's impossible to get it through, you personally attack and make assumptions about people and not just me but everyone can see it, people telling you to chill out and mods having to edit your posts because they are flaming.

You're in denial of your own actions so it's pointless even continuing to try and get it through.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724543 - 10/10/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it was all left... joie had apologized.. but , I dunno, blazey has bad day like mr pig and carries it on...... it was finished, then I was told to back sources like some child at school.. which I have..

so carrying it on is something I am no doing .. these fucks are

as I say.. copy and paste where I have been miss informing blazey - bullshit cop out excuse, you can chase up the history of edits through cache, I suggest u do then copy and paste my misinforming people...

edit my stuff due to bad grammar... the point always remains , trust me, oh trust , gunna fucking loose my rag in a minuet

do me a favor, like now and take your self off of my page, you band wagon jumping cunt , coz u have no fucking idea sunny jimbo and which point have I lost it..

wire crossing , seeing thru transparency .. get off my case

people come here for mycology related things... trouble is no one takes nones word for anything. ... so whats the point of learning things to teach, share,just for people to think no and disagree - because if they had bothered to research there wouldn't been no reason to disagree do u see?  - frustrating.. which point to we draw line thru it ?

all about capacity and how much of it you have in order for you to understand... if you don't, simply hit your ignor button, like anyone can that do not wana hear what I feel..  - its really that simple..



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“My brother explained it very well one time he said.... Have you ever noticed , that as we build the fire of understanding brighter , the greater the volume of darkness that is revealed? Or here I’ll put it for you in geometric modal, As the sphere of understanding expands , the surface area of ignorance necessarily grows ever larger?” —-Terence McKenna


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
    #23724574 - 10/10/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't even know (nor care) who you are, so how can i take you off?

Again you're making assumptions, this one is the funniest though now you're assuming i can read minds! whoever you are i wouldn't want you on there anyway if this is how you go on, honestly.

The profile you linked in your bio, i don't even have as a friend so i have absolutely no clue, the drugs are messing with you man.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724583 - 10/10/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

so your a liar as wel as a controlling manipulator ? - would u like me to screen shot u in my list? il do it for u, your pic is with ur daughter I'm assuming, look back off and just leave me b, I already piggy tellin me , you aint need as well  , quite honestly your simple posts for simple minds were getting irritating , your not helping the cause..

bio? that would be google + don't play games .. just remove yourself, ive sent u a message from it , so now u cant get it wrong.

I could be an arse hole and mention your name so don't push your luck and tell me the drugs are messing with me



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“My brother explained it very well one time he said.... Have you ever noticed , that as we build the fire of understanding brighter , the greater the volume of darkness that is revealed? Or here I’ll put it for you in geometric modal, As the sphere of understanding expands , the surface area of ignorance necessarily grows ever larger?” —-Terence McKenna


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] * 4
    #23724601 - 10/10/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:loldongs:

Do you not have weed wherever it is you're from? Maybe you should smoke a joint and reflect on how silly you look right now.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Ran-D]
    #23724608 - 10/10/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i had to mute his posts in the end, it was never ending :chong:


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Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724627 - 10/10/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ran -d , I take it it works well then... reflecting on the fool u look.. I mean , experience had told you that so, lets not be hypocrites


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724764 - 10/10/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just got this message, cheers for letting me know.

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You can't see his posts, so you can't see him threatening to reveal your actual name and identity.  I reported the post to mods, hopefully that will be the end of it.  That troll is a troll, don't give it too many snacks.





To be frank, i couldn't really care less, nothing like that bothers me one bit, i'd gladly post my details here of my own accord if the need arose, plus he doesn't even have a clue who i am, i don't have him on 'facebook' nor do i have a clue who he is and in case he didn't notice he's breaking more laws than me, not only by doing exactly the same thing as me but also in the UK it's actually illegal to post personal information without consent, so he would just be digging a deeper hole for himself (not that he has any idea who i even am) he's a deluded idiot i ain't scared of his threats whatsoever, people like that need locking in secure units away from society.

If he somehow does manage to find my info, let me know, it will be just in time for this: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3129362/security/doxing-trolling-and-grossly-offensive-communications-are-now-illegal-in-the-uk.html

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With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724806 - 10/10/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

PsyMindz86 really ought to switch off his computer for a while


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724819 - 10/10/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)


I just logged out and looked, like i said, the guy is deluded, i don't have a daughter, i don't even have anyone that would resemble a daughter, the chap is a complete nutjob who thinks i have him on 'facebook', just ignore it, the mans lost his marbles.

I have one admin and a few other members who are all close by, absolutely no idea what the chap is talking about.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23724930 - 10/10/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

fuck off , I have no motives to steal your info your on my page coz u accepted it.

nutjob and delusional ..... :thumbup: not me that's denying truth tho is it... blind little boy..

its finished, leave it.

ex hasbo yob job, I have no problem being called over opinionated , but delusional is something far from 

your lucky I'm not all the things u say I am, I have pm of our convo telling me ur shroomery user.... I'm not the kinda cunt to do that tho , post it up to prove a point.. so no worries there despite your persistence in calling me delusional and nut job



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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
    #23725257 - 10/10/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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