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PsyMindz86
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
#23712197 - 10/06/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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they aint maggots from flies.............
they from the common uk fungus gnat, which I guess, plays role in spore spreading,so bonus really. no single lavae eats a whole mushroom,a slug will, but they too spread spores , if cap its soaked and been hanging around then troubles , they make it black gooey,best to leave them.. if they turned black , then they must of been drenched and not dried properly, larvae swimming around in black gunk ...
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712203 - 10/06/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lots of arthropod species associate with fungi. Mites, gnats, flies, beetles, you name it.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
#23712208 - 10/06/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes but for liberty cap... no flies ... native to a particular type of fungus gnat joie , it really is all I'm trying to say
more point is just, once transformed they make good lil spore spreaders, so best not to compare them with maggot spawning shit eating flies
lets just stick with the particular point at hand joie , which is what gets inside of the liberty cap, not bluebottles or beetles or what ever else
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Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 01:49 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712216 - 10/06/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just flicking through Brock for insect families in the British Isles whose common names reference fungus and closely related ones, we have 4 species of Tetratomidae, 8 Endomychidae, 8 Erotylidae, 15 Mycetophagidae, 17 Melandryidae, 22 Ciidae, 52 Keroplatidae, 93 Leiodidae, 56 Latridiidae, 103 Cryptophagidae, 266 Sciaridae - but that is only a small fraction of mycophagous insects!
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Joie]
#23712220 - 10/06/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Experience? Show me what you are talking about, some fungus gnats you IDd.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
#23712245 - 10/06/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Flame grilled curly whirly
-------------------- “My brother explained it very well one time he said.... Have you ever noticed , that as we build the fire of understanding brighter , the greater the volume of darkness that is revealed? Or here I’ll put it for you in geometric modal, As the sphere of understanding expands , the surface area of ignorance necessarily grows ever larger?” —-Terence McKenna
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 01:32 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712248 - 10/06/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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True, I did miss the point if it was a whole load of that. I thought you were claiming to know that those are Fungus Gnats! My bad.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
#23712250 - 10/06/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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im sorry to for jumping gun... its ok, we always get our wires crossed, I'm use to it.. 
not unless that was sarcasm.... because I know for a fact they are fungus gnats, as shown in the pic
infact , to shut me up just do an experiment, breed a couple and you'll see it is the same
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 01:56 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712344 - 10/06/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The pic you posted is the top Google result for fungus gnat. There should be credible information on this site and anything not quite right should be corrected, so now maybe someone wants to go and look into Fungus Gnats and understands that those are not the only larvae they might find. I don't want to stress you. You can relax.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Frazer]
#23712602 - 10/06/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to make valid points? - what I have noticed about you joie...
here I shall write it louder for u
THE LAVAE FROM THE LIBERTY CAP THE 'COMMON' FUNGUS GNAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR,WHICH IS IDENTICLE TO THE ONE IN THE GOOGL PIC EXAMPLE.. DID I CLAIM AUTHORITY OVER IT ? NO
YOU TELLING ME, U CANT TELL THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE COMMON FUNGUS GNAT LARVAE OF BRITTAN TO THE SHITTING EATING FLY MAGGOT
U THINK I LIKE TO WASTE MY TIME GIVING OUT POINTLESS INFO ? DICKHEAD. TAKE A LARVAE OUT FROM THE CAP,OR LEAVE IT IN THERE WITH MOISTURE, GROW IT AND WATCH IT BECOME WHAT IS SHOWN ..
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 01:51 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712628 - 10/06/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This guy probably can't read this, says he blocked me, but ftr wtf was that? He stresses, so I'm not vindictive, have asked the mods to have a word.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Joie]
#23712803 - 10/06/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23712809 - 10/06/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PsyMindz86 said: nope buts that's the type of gnat ive seen sitting on top of the liberty cap, infact it was near enough identicle, I had a choice of fruit flies, daddy long legs aka the crane fly, but no ! that's the choice because it is the one fuck head!... now you can go fuck yourself because you know fuck all 2bh , infact your now blocked for forever being an annoying cunt
you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to know more than you - what I have noticed about you joie...
Let me get this straight...you insult Joie because he doesn't think every maggot in a shroom is a Fungus Gnat? Holy shit dude, calm down
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: Patch nuke]
#23713049 - 10/06/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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we were talking about liberties containing a specific style of larvae.... and yes every single one is from a particular common uk fungis gnat... that is its mutual buddy and home ..
end of story.. do the experiment yourself.at least where Psilocybe semilanceata is concerned.. do it then have an opinion against me
the guys been doin my nut in for a few weeks now
Crain flies or the 'daddy long legs' are around on the habitat but the lavae is buried underground... no other type of gnat nor fly will use a place the common fungis gnat has already claimed for its offspring! it really is that simple!
so for anyone to have an opinion on a fact is just asking for a punch in the face..
maggots = blue bottle flies - their job is to decompose dog shite , food, dead animals etc
lavae = fungus gnats - as joie has stated, there are many species of,even went all out for us and gave us the latin names lol... , but for the mushroom we talking about, its a particular one
more types of larvae yes, but beetles /other types of flies - which focus on the decomposition of dead wooden material or fruit , larvae is usually buried under the soil or under wet caps/plant matter.
but , for the liberty , its owned by the uk's COMMON FUNGIS GNAT,which didn't need to be engaged, the picture to show the one I mean, and its the one on the left. small enough to climb in and lay the eggs..
why cant this be grasped, because if u had no one would be questioning it. do it yourself, transform one.
each creature goes by habit from its intention , it goes by what it previously did and doesn't usually change. your not going to get other creatures laying their shit where other shit is.. they each choose a particular place... the case of this type of little gnat what ever the fuck u wana call it, is the liberty cap, everything about is suitable , there durable , more so than most out there around them. they make a good strong warm cozy bed for this particular style of larvae . I'm sure other mushrooms out there that it has chosen aswel as choosing the ground where moisture and composted soil.. but to my experience its been mostly the cap of semilanceata out in the country, that seem to belong to the one in the picture,
but maggots just make you think of flies eating shit, maggot and larvae come from 2 different, although similar, insects 2bh

and all I was saying about them, is that they are useful and make good for spreading spores.. that was my one and only point, but this dude will try to undermine any chance he getsm today aint the day , was trying to remain positive but always the one I guess.........................................................
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 01:48 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23713304 - 10/06/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I took this photo (right is full size) of this liberty cap larvae. Maybe it shows some features making it identifiable?
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PsyMindz86
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
#23713306 - 10/06/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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erm.. aside from sarcasm you could keep the little twat as a pet? then see for your self? jk
certainly not a maggot, theres big differences between each insect larvae and maggot trust,why doesn't anyone know this? surly u have been fishing?..
don't have to take my word tho, all you have to do is google fungi's gnat larvae and it will show up as exactly that ... feel free, that's what I did, that's how I found out when I wondered what these lil things were few yr back, ive seen the actual things before, on one occasion just before sun set, there the little thing sat on top of the cap, it was a picture but I didn't have a cam on me... typically. the 'fly' itself is smaller than shit flies, and daddy long legs , the Crain fly which u will also see on the habitat, but it lays its larvae in the ground and looks more catapillaish , flies maggots, beetles undergrowth of woods or near, so you just narrow it down to the basic dominator of the habitat and that's what is left.. every season, always those style larvae
sure tho, experience or research don't count for fuck all these days do they joie
this was my point on experience that joie just couldn't wait to undermine. getting abit fed up with the self righteous arrogance that you simply couldn't google fungus gnat larvae yourself to find out that in fact it is what it says it is.
one thing ive noticed about members here that have fancy trusted identification or whatever titles, is that , even the source of experience is wrong to them,
each one I guarantee u that come out of them caps are from the same thing......
great snap btw... something I actually mean.
here no doubt people to lazy I saved u the hard work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus_gnat - start quote ''The larvae feed on plant roots and fungi, helping in the decomposition of organic matter (KARMA FUCKING FREE EH?!). The adults are 2–5 millimetres (0.079–0.197 in) long, and are important pollinators of plants and carriers of mushroom spores"...
if joie wana get all Latin on our arse's fine , cool, I cant see that annoying shit anyway.
things are more symbiotic than we care/dare to imagine
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 02:35 PM)
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: knarkkorven]
#23713357 - 10/06/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks pretty much like a Fungus Gnat, can't swear it but...
I did not argue that there isn't a particular species of Fungus Gnat on libs, but I guess I was doubting his experience. He doesn't demonstrate reliability, or anything, is all, and the UK thread is a shambles. If I establish, which shouldn't be difficult checking some mushrooms and IDing larvae and any adults, that he is right on the point of all larvae on libs being a given species of Fungus Gnat, not that it relates to the way he lashes out, and not that I was here to argue that point, still I'll come here and say so. This link might be helpful. http://sciaroidea.info/
If I'm blocked he doesn't see it unless maybe I'm quoted, so that's useful. 
His posts above have been heavily edited so that they are less offensive, so it is nice no longer to be thought as bad as that. When he does that but doesn't address it, it doesn't really unsay the things, and leaves a disingenuous record. I know it's not something he can control, but it would be useful if he was not very quick to hurl a stream of insults. At least maybe I was a lightning rod and he won't lose it with other posters.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23713668 - 10/06/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PsyMindz86 said: you know exactly how to stress people, its all you seem to do,you cant handle other people seeming to make valid points? - what I have noticed about you joie...
here I shall write it louder for u
THE LAVAE FROM THE LIBERTY CAP THE 'COMMON' FUNGUS GNAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR,WHICH IS IDENTICLE TO THE ONE IN THE GOOGL PIC EXAMPLE.. DID I CLAIM AUTHORITY OVER IT ? NO
YOU TELLING ME, U CANT TELL THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE COMMON FUNGUS GNAT LARVAE OF BRITTAN TO THE SHITTING EATING FLY MAGGOT
U THINK I LIKE TO WASTE MY TIME GIVING OUT POINTLESS INFO ? DICKHEAD. TAKE A LARVAE OUT FROM THE CAP,OR LEAVE IT IN THERE WITH MOISTURE, GROW IT AND WATCH IT BECOME WHAT IS SHOWN ..
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: PsyMindz86] 2
#23713680 - 10/06/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you make yourself look exactly like you do, PsyMindz86. nobody else does it for you so you should own it rather than blaming others (or just blaming Joie).
i assume one of the reasons that Joie challenges some of the information you propose is because you don't use sources to back your assertions. you present information as fact and get pissy when someone challenges you, but logical and scientific discussions are conducted using sources to back up information. it's not a vendetta, it's in the interest of having accurate information for others to view and absorb.
case in point: "maggots = blue bottle flie...lavae [sic] = fungus gnats". taxonomically speaking, all maggots are larvae. those two terms are not mutually exclusive. maggots = larvae. maggots = larvae no matter what species the egg from which it hatched came from.
your claim that "no other type of gnat nor fly will use a place the common fungis gnat has already claimed for its offspring! it really is that simple!" doesn't seem to be so simple in the real world, as things often aren't (simple, that is). i'd venture that everyone who collects Pleurotus ostreatus, Laetiporus sulpheurus/cincinnatus, and many other edible species finds larvae--maggots--of many different species in those fungi. i've found a couple different kinds of maggots and at least two different types of beetles eating the same specimen before.
i hope this goes a little way to showing you that it's not a personal thing when people challenge the information you present; it's an accuracy thing.
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Re: is this a liberty cap? picked today in UK [Re: relic]
#23713693 - 10/06/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why should I provide a source you lazy twat eh? just google fungus gnat larvae and go look your self, can u use your mind to make your own comparison so I don't have to copy and past all over the place! be realistic will ya ! what r u his cousin or something?
more smart arses .. maggot looks different to the typical larvae of a gnat was all I was trying to say, if u want to get fancy with terminologies coolio ...
yes other mushrooms maybe who cares.. this topic is liberty.. now piss of you annoying fly... lol go and spread some spores...
which was my only positive thing contributed on this page befor it was blasted by all its creditability -the fact that they spread spores....
I edit my shit all the time - your an annoying fuck - that's staying .. just to show u I couldn't give a fuck about offending you, I dint want to offend others joie that's why I thought twice..
I just simply said at top of page, its fungus gnat and they spread spores, don't diss them
I don't care for its fucking name, I just know its the same thing in the libs and has been that way for a few years and probably always has!!)
good night !
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Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/06/16 04:37 PM)
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