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what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online?
    #23663272 - 09/20/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23663293 - 09/20/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Depends what country you are in, what your desired results are how soon you want to harvest your plants.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: jimmyBbuffet]
    #23663375 - 09/20/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i live in a tropical country, i want to grow something legal with calming and euphoric effects, the harvest needs to be in a year tops.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23664111 - 09/21/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i live in a tropical country,




We still don´t know what is legal in this un-named country.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664199 - 09/21/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Come on on guys, he needs help, To my knowledge none of the following plants are illegal anywhere in the world, and make a great calming tea:

Lavender

Chamomile

and Lemon Balm


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: mandrin13]
    #23664382 - 09/21/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

these plants just make you tired and sleepy


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664396 - 09/21/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i live in a tropical country,




We still don´t know what is legal in this un-named country.





I live in brazil, i could grow kratom, but i cant find seeds online


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23664502 - 09/21/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lemon balm is really nice you just need to make it really strong.
I make lemon balm/peppermint/catnip tinctures are they work just as good as xanax or other benzos.

Also you could look into growing Valerian also.

Other than that there aren't many plants with a calming + euphoric effects.
Even kratom isn't very calming or euphoric for me.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: mandrin13]
    #23664555 - 09/21/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Come on on guys, he needs help, To my knowledge none of the following plants are illegal anywhere in the world, and make a great calming tea:

Lavender

Chamomile

and Lemon Balm




Come on guys - he asked for help with PSYCHOACTIVE plants - my granny used to drink Camomile tea.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: impaired420]
    #23664562 - 09/21/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i have a Lemon Grass and Melissa Lippia alba plant, if I make it strong will it work?


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23664568 - 09/21/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmm the best psychoactive plant.....
You can buy seeds online.....
Imma have to say mary J


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23664597 - 09/21/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hmmm the best psychoactive plant.....
You can buy seeds online.....
Imma have to say mary J




I would have to give my address, it would have to go through costums, too risky


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23664617 - 09/21/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hmmm the best psychoactive plant.....
You can buy seeds online.....
Imma have to say mary J




And he asked for legal psychoactive - MJ is illegal in most countries - in some countries they TOP you if you get caught growing it (Singapore). 
Don´t know about Brazil.  How about Trichocereus?  Is that legal there?  Peyote is actually legal in most countries but takes a while to produce from seed.
Are there cactus nurseries that stock those??


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664622 - 09/21/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hmmm the best psychoactive plant.....
You can buy seeds online.....
Imma have to say mary J




And he asked for legal psychoactive - MJ is illegal in most countries - in some countries they TOP you if you get caught growing it (Singapore). 
Don´t know about Brazil.  How about Trichocereus?  Is that legal there?  Peyote is actually legal in most countries but takes a while to produce from seed.
Are there cactus nurseries that stock those??



Peyote for calming effects


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664632 - 09/21/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I could grow Trichocereus, but i'm looking for something more relaxing.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664633 - 09/21/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It is legal to order cannabis seeds but unfortunately many places cultivation is illegal :frown: it is however, in my opinion, the best psychoactive plant.

As far as legal to grow and order san pedro or peruvian torch yes yes. They can be very fun to tend to and watch grow but you will have several years from the time you plant to harvesting anything of worth.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23664635 - 09/21/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peyote for calming effects




Strange comment to make.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664637 - 09/21/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Come on on guys, he needs help, To my knowledge none of the following plants are illegal anywhere in the world, and make a great calming tea:

Lavender

Chamomile

and Lemon Balm




Come on guys - he asked for help with PSYCHOACTIVE plants - my granny used to drink Camomile tea.





Doesn't matter what your granny drank, they're psychoactive plants. Plants I personally enjoy, tyvm.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23664638 - 09/21/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I could grow Trichocereus, but i'm looking for something more relaxing.



Poppies?


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664641 - 09/21/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peyote for calming effects




Strange comment to make.



It doesn't make me calm lol


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23664648 - 09/21/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I could grow Trichocereus, but i'm looking for something more relaxing.



Poppies?




That's a great idea but probably not legal in India.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: impaired420]
    #23664682 - 09/21/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i have tried argyreia once it was a pretty relaxing, if it wasnt for the extreme nausea i would grow it.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: impaired420]
    #23664774 - 09/21/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Doesn't matter what your granny drank, they're psychoactive plants. Plants I personally enjoy, tyvm.




High on camomile tea??  Yeah, right.  And I´ve heard you can go off your head on MINT tea.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: impaired420]
    #23664789 - 09/21/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a great idea but probably not legal in India.






Can´t see the relevance anyway when the OP said he lives in Brazil.

Sorry, Aureus, I am leaving this thread - you are just getting bullshit not help - from people who can´t even be bothered to read what you have posted.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23664795 - 09/21/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poppy seeds/pods would get my vote. I think anything really worth the effort is generally banned nowadays.:frown:


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23664945 - 09/21/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poppies are good. Other than that maybe klip dagga? Don't know if you can get seeds for that though.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23665634 - 09/21/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Come on on guys, he needs help, To my knowledge none of the following plants are illegal anywhere in the world, and make a great calming tea:

Lavender

Chamomile

and Lemon Balm




Come on guys - he asked for help with PSYCHOACTIVE plants - my granny used to drink Camomile tea.




If you hold your breath while drinking it, it should enhance the effects.  Your granny was just hardcore


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: mandrin13]
    #23665678 - 09/21/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poppies widely accepted/ignored in huge swathes of India, even for extraction type cultivation, so is MJ in many areas..

But without knowing country, very hard to say. If seeds are legal where you are OP, just get MJ, I doubt they are gonna observe the contents, deliver the, and return 6-8 months later on the off chance they are being grown at the same premises..

Can ya not get whatever interests ya the most sent to a friend or P.O. box etc??

Cacti would get my vote, not hard to get a viable cutting sent, that could be easily usable within a year, with root stock/base left for continued growth..

How hard have you looked for kratom seeds?? They must exist, try contacting one of the East Asian bulk distributors and striking up a conversation, some cool folks out there around the globe..


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23666020 - 09/21/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a great idea but probably not legal in India.





Can´t see the relevance anyway when the OP said he lives in Brazil.

Sorry, Aureus, I am leaving this thread - you are just getting bullshit not help - from people who can´t even be bothered to read what you have posted.




Bro my bad idk where India came from but who pissed in your Cheerios. It seems to me everyone is offering advice, that's what the OP asked for.
All you're doing is bitching man relax and let other people offer ideas.

Just because you don't get recreational effects from certain plants doesnt mean they don't have psychoactive/medicinal properties.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #23666719 - 09/21/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Poppies widely accepted/ignored in huge swathes of India, even for extraction type cultivation, so is MJ in many areas..

But without knowing country, very hard to say. If seeds are legal where you are OP, just get MJ, I doubt they are gonna observe the contents, deliver the, and return 6-8 months later on the off chance they are being grown at the same premises..

Can ya not get whatever interests ya the most sent to a friend or P.O. box etc??

Cacti would get my vote, not hard to get a viable cutting sent, that could be easily usable within a year, with root stock/base left for continued growth..

How hard have you looked for kratom seeds?? They must exist, try contacting one of the East Asian bulk distributors and striking up a conversation, some cool folks out there around the globe..




Poppies seem cool, but i dont have a lot self control, i'm afraid of getting addicted.

But i'm pretty sure there's still a lot other amazing psychoactive plants out there, some yet to be discovered


Has anyone tried Kanna?


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23666726 - 09/21/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You would need to grow a LOT of poppies to develop, let alone support an addiction :lol:


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: jimmyBbuffet]
    #23667601 - 09/22/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Caapi, caapi grows in some parts of brazil, Acacia trees, San pedro cactus, peyote, and chamomile does mix well with drugs that can cause paranoia. Very calming for me. Maybe Salvia species? Salvia nemorosa and Klip dagga are legal.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Herbgrower12]
    #23667622 - 09/22/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Caapi, caapi grows in some parts of brazil, Acacia trees, San pedro cactus, peyote, and chamomile does mix well with drugs that can cause paranoia. Very calming for me. Maybe Salvia species? Salvia nemorosa and Klip dagga are legal.




Low long Klip dagga takes to grow from seeds to harvest?

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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Aureus]
    #23668109 - 09/22/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kava kava?


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23668155 - 09/22/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kava kava?




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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #23668264 - 09/22/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lotus (both Nelumbo and Nucifera) are relatively easy to grow, pretty, and have a sedative effect. Also you can try heima salicifolia and leonotus nepetifolia or leonurus. These are legal and super easy to grow but they don't have much effect on me. If you're in a hurry just get some extracts online. Kava seems cool too but I've never tried it.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: saythatagain]
    #23670460 - 09/23/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A few months? 2-3? depends how they grow and soil conditions,etc. I got a mild relaxant effect, but with a higher dose it made light seem  brighter. Maybe make an extract from the plant?


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Herbgrower12]
    #23675996 - 09/25/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kava kava is a good option if you can make it work (don't know if every plant can really yield enough - for example for poppies - aside from the illegality for a moment - will only be worthwhile if you plant a nice field, not two or three plants).

Kratom is one of the best options I guess, seeds or seedlings shouldn't be impossible if you google the shit out of it.

I like damiana but mostly as adjunct to weed.

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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: Solipsis]
    #23676186 - 09/25/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kava kava is a good option if you can make it work (don't know if every plant can really yield enough - for example for poppies - aside from the illegality for a moment - will only be worthwhile if you plant a nice field, not two or three plants).

Kratom is one of the best options I guess, seeds or seedlings shouldn't be impossible if you google the shit out of it.

I like damiana but mostly as adjunct to weed.

Passiflora incarnata wasn't so bad either. Rather mild but I have enjoyed a home-made tincture.



Do you know anything about the active constituents of passionflower? I've read that some contain MAOIs and I'm on an SSRI so I don't want to take any risk.


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Re: what are the best legal psychoactive plants that i can buy seeds online? [Re: saythatagain]
    #23676583 - 09/25/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah low levels / mild beta-carbolines I think, compared to Syrian Rue for example. If you're on an SSRI then you'd better avoid it all to be sure.

They are not responsible for the sedative effects though, but I imagine they can have effect on your mood.


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