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TrippyJuice



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Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek
#23663070 - 09/20/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm getting ready for my first bulk wbs to Coir monotub. Which tek should I use??
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morty422
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23663085 - 09/20/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TrippyJuice said: I'm getting ready for my first bulk wbs to Coir monotub. Which tek should I use??
I have done both and I am a fan of the bucket tek. Simple and Easy.
Why not try both out one after the other and see what works best for you? Each one has been proven to work just fine!
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Boogieman47
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: morty422]
#23663097 - 09/20/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The bucket tek is much faster and easier ive never done it cause i use hpoo but i know everyone who does cvg loves it
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Boogieman47]
#23663190 - 09/20/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, you've been a member since 2009, and you're just now starting your first bulk? Talk about taking your time:)
I haven't tried the bucket tek, but people do seem to like it, and you can't argue with the results. However, I follow Frank's tek... There is something about knowing you are pasteurizing your substrate properly that makes me feel warm, and safe inside.
Whichever you choose, best of luck to you my friend:)
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TrippyJuice



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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Mush Freak]
#23665151 - 09/21/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea I took a few years off.. I've done some small trays I can't remember what tek I used for the coir/verm.. They turned out Pretty desent alot of side pinning. I have never done a monotub.
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23665164 - 09/21/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fukit tek is cool.. But you should definitely go with proper pasteurization
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TrippyJuice



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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TheStormsEye]
#23665175 - 09/21/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I will try Franks.. If I remember correctly I used it last time but had a hard time keeping the temps correct.. The temperature fluctuations while proper pastuerizing are a pain and I worry the whole time it's not right..
Any tips on keeping the correct temperature without fluctuating?
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TheStormsEye
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23665187 - 09/21/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TrippyJuice said: The temperature fluctuations while proper pastuerizing are a pain and I worry the whole time it's not right..
Any tips on keeping the correct temperature without fluctuating?
I use a big tamale pot..

Get ur temps up right and turn it off. if you keep ur lid on it works perfect.
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Inocuole
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TheStormsEye]
#23665228 - 09/21/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheStormsEye said: The fukit tek is cool.. But you should definitely go with proper pasteurization 
For coir, you can do whatever you want. There is 0 benefit to pasteurizing coir. It's a waste of time and effort.
If you think otherwise I'll be waiting for the sources describing all the beneficial bacteria that live in coir that can be saved by pasteurizing. (There are none)
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TrippyJuice



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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Inocuole]
#23665235 - 09/21/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not going to lie the bucket tek is definitely more appealing.. Lol
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Inocuole
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23665241 - 09/21/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I run coir in the oven way higher than pasteurization temps. Left buckets and bags of coir around for months without ever seeing anything grow on them.
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TheStormsEye
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23665253 - 09/21/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i guess if all you can afford to put into this hobby is a plastic bukit.. then fukit.
Its probably a good idea to get into the habbit of doing things solid. Whether or not your material harbors anything or not. Coir and verm are both pretty problem free.
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Edited by TheStormsEye (09/21/16 02:37 PM)
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Inocuole]
#23665260 - 09/21/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I run coir in the oven way higher than pasteurization temps. Left buckets and bags of coir around for months without ever seeing anything grow on them.
thats cuz there is hardly anything in coir for anything to grow on, in terms of nutrients
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TheStormsEye]
#23665307 - 09/21/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheStormsEye said:
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Inocuole said: I run coir in the oven way higher than pasteurization temps. Left buckets and bags of coir around for months without ever seeing anything grow on them.
thats cuz there is hardly anything in coir for anything to grow on, in terms of nutrients
False...very false in fact it is just as good as manure.
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Inocuole
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: cronicr]
#23665332 - 09/21/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Time for the guessing games to come to a close...
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morty422
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Inocuole]
#23665847 - 09/21/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Time for the guessing games to come to a close...

I use coir exclusively in all my tubs and in all my reptile cages.
My lizards piss and shit in their coir all damn day and it still doesn't contam. I could leave that piss and shit fiesta in there for longer than the life of a mono and I'm sure nothing would happen.
(I like my animals though, so I'm sorry I don't have any photo evidence. Gerald the gecko wouldn't appreciate that experiment...)
Pasteurizing coir 'properly' is silly. Inocuole throws his shit in the oven in oven-safe bags..... I throw my shit in a bucket...
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TrippyJuice



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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: morty422]
#23666421 - 09/21/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thx guys for your input.
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23666647 - 09/21/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well welcome back to the hobby and the shroomery, trippy. Goodluck with whatever tek you go with. I do recommend trying out monotubs eventually! I only did one run of trays, then I switched over. I felt my greenhouse was too much maintenance, and I hadn't heard of sgfc at the time.
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Inocuole]
#23666701 - 09/21/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Time for the guessing games to come to a close...
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WeavieWonder
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Inocuole]
#23666837 - 09/21/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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TheStormsEye said: The fukit tek is cool.. But you should definitely go with proper pasteurization 
For coir, you can do whatever you want. There is 0 benefit to pasteurizing coir. It's a waste of time and effort.
If you think otherwise I'll be waiting for the sources describing all the beneficial bacteria that live in coir that can be saved by pasteurizing. (There are none)
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I've used coir many times without pasteurization. In fact, I've had buckets of damp coir sitting for months, and no molds grew. However, the verm needs to be pasteurized to prevent cobweb mold. RR
Damien's bucket tek and Frank's tek call for verm too, not JUST coir. You are obviously a very experienced cultivator, and have a wealth of knowledge to offer other members. With that said, which tek would you recommend to newer growers (OP's question)?
Edited by WeavieWonder (09/21/16 11:52 PM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: WeavieWonder]
#23667195 - 09/22/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Verm doesn't need to be pasteurized either. I've used it straight out of the bag before, but I run the whole sub mix at 200F for about 2 hours.
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Re: Franks coir tek or damions bucket tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23668102 - 09/22/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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word!
the bucket tek works.
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Mad Season said:
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Inocuole said: Time for the guessing games to come to a close...

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