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Tabernanthe
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First time DMT... disapointed
#23662354 - 09/20/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi,
So after months of reading books, trip reports, researches about psychedelics, I have finally extracted myself some DMT. I wanted to try it for over a year, really, really bad. After painful process of learning how to extract it properly (I made every possible mistake) I was finally ready. Or at least I thought so.
Yesterday I smoked 10 mg just to see what's up with this substance. Nothing happend really, some things changed in my visual field but I couldn't even put my hands on what has changed. I waited one hour an weighted out 15 mg. I had some sludge left in my crack pipe so I assume it was closer to 20mg.
This time it strucked me immediatelly. Walls started to morph, I started to hear buzz in my ears. I layed down to enjoy the trip but... well this wasn't something enjoyable. I had a feelinf of dissotiation from myself, the things I was doing during the day (I was in a room with my budy after playing music the whole day) seemed like a distant memory and I missed it, as if it has been ages since I lived in a normal state of mind. I rememberd thinking 'Oh I see how people feel there is no time in their experience' and I was terrified that it will seem like eternity for me too. I've seen like funny aztec-like figures, but really primitive, like stick figures. I was scared to death the whole experience, I had a feeling my bain got completely fried. Like I've gotten an instant schispophrenia or something I was praying to be back already.
The experience lasted very short period of time and luckily I was back in no time. But now here I am after all the effort with a flask of DMT for like 100 trips and no willingness whatsoever to try it again... I'm just scared for my sanity. Every book, documentary etc insists the DMT can't really hurt you unless you have a history of mental ilness. Well, I don't (other that being medicated for depression in the past- treating it is the reason I've got interested in psychedelics in the first place) and I was already tripping balls on other substanes like LSD, shrooms and Iboga. If this 3 days long, hellish Iboga trip nor other trips gave me mental ilness than I don't have anything lurking in the back of my brain. Therefore my use of DMT should be safe, am I correct? But, jesus christ, it did feel like I could plonge into the madness easly with this thing.
One thing is sure, I was joking around with nice psychedelics, but my lightheartedness ended yeasterday, DMT is a real deal.If there is 1% chance I can get crazy or traumatized for life because of DMT I'd prefer drain it down the toilet rather thant risk so much. I'd be happy to see your take on this issue.
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: Tabernanthe]
#23662371 - 09/20/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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smoke 50 mg
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Kinshino
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: AIRDOG]
#23662939 - 09/20/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd recommend that you clean your pipe out. That sludge that was in your pipe container DMT Oxide, and it's been said that it can cause bad trips. Seriously, look it up.
Clean out the pipe or sandwich some dmt in between your choice of herb and smoke it. Try 20mg again and see how it goes. Maybe put on some music or a rain generator. I wouldn't give up on dmt just yet. Don't let one bad experience ruin all your hard work and admiration for dmt.
If you can handle iboga then you should definitely be able to handle some dmt. I wish you luck!
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: Kinshino]
#23664895 - 09/21/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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low dose dmt is unconfortable, you need to blast off... smoke 50 mg or 100
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Kinshino
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: AIRDOG]
#23665192 - 09/21/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, but that's terrible advice. Taking more, especially 100mg would just make it worse. He'd flip out even more because it would get even more intense...
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: Kinshino]
#23665221 - 09/21/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Smoking technique is important and especially what you smoke it out of.
I won't smoke DMT unless it's out of a Machine now. Literally the best possible way to smoke spice imo.
I've had underwhelming experiences smoking Deem out of bowls with weed and it always left me disappointed.
Until I loaded 100mg in a machine I made and it blew me away. That's when I really understood the experience. Well, not understand the experience lol, but understand what people mean when they talk about breaking through.
I didn't get far out until my third or fourth time smoking it.
Technique. Dosage. Pipe.
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Tabernanthe
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: Big Worm]
#23667250 - 09/22/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sorry Airdog but I'd rather go with Kinsihno's advice and keep the dose low for beginning. Imagine if things go south and the experience if four times more intense than the last time. It would leave me with a PTSD or some shit of this kind...
Concerning DMT-oxide. What I found out is that people find the dmt-oxide experience less demanding and intense. More like heavy mushrooms trip. But indeed, there are some who don't enoy it.
The last time I didn't put on any music wich is odd- I'm a musican and I never trip without music. I felt super claustrophobic without music as soon as I smoked it, soo it could trigger my bad experience.
Thanks for support guys, it means a lot for me. I won't give up on DMT yet. And next time I'll smoke it will be with some caapi leafs or from the machine!
I'll give myself some time to regenerate and I'll post how it went in like two weeks
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Re: First time DMT... disapointed [Re: Tabernanthe]
#23669445 - 09/22/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT is a tool for certain and not to be taken lightly, even by experienced trippers. I've smoked it about a dozen times with one complete breakthrough and one sub-breakthrough. I haven't gone back since but a day doesn't go by that I don't ponder my experiences and it's been over a year. The second (sub-breakthrough) was much easier as I knew what to expect as far as having the immediate loop of hitting the pipe over and over in my mind and then entering the cube room before being confronted by my soul logo....I've got a nice fat batch in the freezer waiting. My good friend was excited to try it as well and was significantly affected by the experience (not entirely or if at all in a good way), which was very different from my own. I think some people deal with the experience a little better than others and some shouldn't take it at all, though, I think if everyone had the experience, the world would be a real different place. It sure puts your time in the physical reality into perspective for you. Definitely not for the uptight or high-strung. Sorry to ramble.

Edited by Mycolorado (09/22/16 09:06 PM)
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