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Jollyrodger
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When to fruit
#23662141 - 09/20/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry its a bit long
Dumb question but i feel like i always do something wrong at this stage and causes me to get smaller flushes.
BACKGROUND INFO: So im colonizing some trays in my new greenhouse and im on day 9 of colonizing. I read that 7 is good but its better to wait 10 for consolidation. I went with like 60/40 or a little more than 50/50 spawn to sub this time because i never seem to get completely colonized sub. The spawn ratio seems to have helped out a lot. I think colonization slowed down around day 7 and i had the tin foil loosely placed on top without holes but i thought it could need more GE so i put a few small slits in it.
since then it has that fuzzy look going on in a few spots (im positive its not mold) and started forming hyphoid knots and tiny pins all over the top. This is the most pins ive ever gotten so i really want to encourage the most out of it.
THE QUESTIONS: What i want to know is at what point do i introduce to fruiting conditions? Im thinking i should have on day 7 when colonization slowed down. But it seems to have possibly benefited by the 2 extra days.
Should i wait till the top is covered with pins and then peel the foil off?
Im always jealous of seeing your pin sets and overgrown mushroom forests so id like a nice set of my own. I did not case though because i messed up pasteurization one time and got a trich outbreak, so i need more practice first.
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If there's pins formed its already fruiting..
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Jollyrodger
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Fruiting without proper fruiting conditions. I guess i was confused as to whether pins could form while colonizing or if its strictly part of fruiting. So i should just take the foil off then since its probably done colonizing.
I remember FAE is a pinning trigger... been a while. Just trying not to screw myself if i could get a better pin set before taking the foil off.
Edited by Jollyrodger (09/21/16 08:18 PM)
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I'm no pro but yea if it's pinning take the foil off and let it do its thing... Throw it in a SGFC
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Jollyrodger
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Awesome. ill be trying my greenhouse for the first grow. Should be cool. thanks dude
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Re: When to fruit [Re: amidogen]
#23662395 - 09/20/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm assuming you are doing cubensis.
If you are having trouble getting it to work at all, maybe you should put it into fruit early as possible.
I know you are doing a greenhouse but with monotubs you can case them and put them into fruiting conditions at the same time you put them into substrate. It can shave days off your colonization time.
So long as the surface doesn't dry out, and they aren't contaminated, they will likely fruit much sooner.
It may be a smaller pinset or maybe not. I've had several really great ones with early fruiting. And, even if not great, some is always better than none!
Other than cleaning up your spawn using agar, this may be one way to help cube fungus win the race over contaminants.
Actually, even if they are contaminated they may fruit sooner. I know now that people have partial success with contaminated grows fairly often because I have been one of them!
But like I said, things may be different with a greenhouse--all the airflow could dry things out. You might need to mist the casing or otherwise make sure the moisture and substrate level humidity stays very high.
Edited by PutACapInHisAss (09/20/16 05:05 PM)
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Jollyrodger
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Got a cheap ultrasonic on the middle shelf in a tupperware with foil over it and holes poked in it so it doesnt spit water. Just bumping the RH up right now since i just turned everything on.
Other than that i have my modified vicks coolmist v4500 with the GH flap slightly open for FAE.
How do my trays look? They look weird to me haha. Im always expecting pure white. Hopefully you can see them okay.
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That fuzz isnt mold.
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I did 5 quarts verm, 5 quarts Hpoo, a brick of coir a little coffee grounds and like 3/4 of a quart of gypsum i think but i didnt really measure it. Like 10 quarts of spawn.
Kinda cheated pasteurizing the hpoo and coffee though. I just threw all my water in a pot with my hpoo and coffee grounds and gypsum and brought it to a rolling boil for a while and used that to hydrate my verm and coir. I know youre not suppose to kill everything but thats how i did it.
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The lighting is poor and your camera is having trouble with focusing.
For really good pics you want a bright daylight temp (6500K) light overhead and try to have the camera directly over the middle and very steady. The light may have to be off to the side a bit so there aren't shadows. This is the kind of light you want for fruiting anyway. There are great daylight LEDs that take very little energy and are quite bright.
With camera phones, if that is what you are using, you can even set it on the wire shelf above a tray so it is super steady. Just stick your finger through the grating to touch the screen for the shot.
If trying this, you may or may not need to put something under the trays to get them closer to the camera for better framing--just depends on the distance and the camera.
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Quote:
Jollyrodger said:

Dude sick set up
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Its a cheap setup too. 30 bucks for the 4 tier mini greenhouse, think it was 30 for the vicks coolmist v4500, dollar each for the trays. And a humidity guage.
Just throw the coolmist on a cheap timer and mess with it till you can maintain high humidity without a wet floor. I have a plastic sheet under it anyways.
Ive read if it gets too cold you can have a heat bulb pointed at the greenhouse on the outside and it works. Just figure out how far away it should be. My house has no insulation but luckily its a good time of year.
I personally find it easier than monotubs.
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Little condensation on the trays since i JUST pulled the foil off a little bit ago. Im sure thatll go away
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Yeah I'm a big fan of the green house thing. nice job dude
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Quote:
Jollyrodger said: ...i think but i didnt really measure it...
Kinda cheated pasteurizing...I just threw...I know youre not suppose to...but thats how i did it.
This is why you'll probably never have much success and also probably why not many people are offering you advice.
If you really want to grow shrooms either 1) follow a few teks to the letter or 2) learn the principles to a deep level and create the situation for them.
Most people eventually get to 2 by doing 1 and reading until their eyes bleed.
If you really want a little reward without too much effort use the search tool to look up the "12 Steps to Shrooms" by username FrankHorrigan. His directions are concise, clear, and if you really can follow a recipe, your chances of success will be very high.
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PutACapInHisAss
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Oh, and this is called a double post, it is against the rules, or guidelines, but I'm breaking them to make a point.
You double posted I don't know how many times! Read the forum rules/guidelines. Use the edit button to add to your last post instead of just making new ones as things pop into your head.
Even better, gather your thoughts in a separate text file on your computer. Then when you are ready you can paste them into a post all at once.
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Jollyrodger
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Oh okay... im sorry. I dont think my boiling will harm anything unless i get contams. I didnt have a pillow case i wanted poop in or i would have done it that way... and i live an hour away from the nearest store so i dont go down there without a good reason since my truck takes 10 gallons there and back.
I do read... ive been a lurker for over a year. Its been a while since ive done a grow. A year actually so im a bit rusty on everything.
And i appologise for the double posts. Not trying to bump my post to the top. Im not big on forums. This is why i never post. But thanks for your helpful input.
I thought my current grow was going okay.
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