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Petition to prosecute hillary clinton
    #23662018 - 09/20/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Edited by falsereality (09/20/16 02:47 PM)


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662030 - 09/20/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

whitehouse.gov    seems legit.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23662035 - 09/20/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:loldongs:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 3
    #23662037 - 09/20/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23662042 - 09/20/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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whitehouse.gov    seems legit.




It is legit :smirk:. While I don't expect this petition to enact any form of change from the executive branch, I do expect it to raise public awareness to the crimes she has committed, foreign and domestic.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 3
    #23662044 - 09/20/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sure she's a terrible inhumane person, but I'm also fairly certain so is everyone important in politics, and I'm also fairly certain you will never see any of them held accountable for their shittiness, especially if they didn't actually violate the law. Good luck though


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23662048 - 09/20/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




For the record, I hate trump as well.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23662053 - 09/20/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Ezuma]
    #23662059 - 09/20/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23662104 - 09/20/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.



I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.:shrug:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
    #23662106 - 09/20/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

especially considering the last republican president started a war based on outright lies, and had utterly no comeuppance


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23662120 - 09/20/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.:shrug:




Nice deflection. They weren't "borderline" classified by the way, TS:SCI is the highest *public* classification that sensitive data can have, and she violated federal law by taking said information and transporting it to a non-secure location.

Try to stay on topic bro.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662125 - 09/20/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I voted


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 3
    #23662127 - 09/20/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.:shrug:




Nice deflection. They weren't "borderline" classified by the way, TS:SCI is the highest *public* classification that sensitive data can have, and she violated federal law by taking said information and transporting it to a non-secure location.

Try to stay on topic bro.





I saw the youtube video regarding the congressional inquiry into this... some of the information discussed by hillary was so classified they couldn't even tell Congress what was discussed. Ahh yes, information so secret not even Congress is allowed to know about it.

Personally, I think a government that keeps such high level secrets from its own people, from its own Congress, cannot be trusted.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662154 - 09/20/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.:shrug:




Nice deflection. They weren't "borderline" classified by the way, TS:SCI is the highest *public* classification that sensitive data can have, and she violated federal law by taking said information and transporting it to a non-secure location.

Try to stay on topic bro.



Again, what exactly has transpired that these emails were the root cause for? Exactly Nothing. This is a blown out of proportion conspiracy that needs to be put to bed. And how is that getting off of the topic?....I thought it was the topic....SHE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW. In case you haven't heard.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #23662157 - 09/20/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary is just chomping at the bit to spread more warfare and devastation all over the planet after being elected.

She's already a war criminal even before having taken office, having been instrumental in leading the charge to destroy Libya and subsequently hand-over the Libyan weapons cache to the Al-Qaeda militants fighting in Syria.

She is a serious danger to all of us, and to all of humanity.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: chopstick]
    #23662159 - 09/20/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This will do about as much good as the Kratom petition

that whole website is just there to give citizens the false impression that they have the potential to make a difference at the top level



i'd like to see even one example of one of those petitions actually resulting in some top level changes


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea] * 5
    #23662168 - 09/20/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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SHE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW




Your head is so far up your ass non-euclidean mathematics can't be used to describe the physical stress your abdomen must be feeling.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662173 - 09/20/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:bobmarley:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
    #23662174 - 09/20/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This will do about as much good as the Kratom petition





I disagree. I just want a formal response from the whitehouse which would legitimatize the petition and in turn hurt her campaign.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662182 - 09/20/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This will do about as much good as the Kratom petition





I disagree. I just want a formal response from the whitehouse which would legitimatize the petition and in turn hurt her campaign.



Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can do a 2 week ban for the one who doesn't follow through.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
    #23662189 - 09/20/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can ban the one who doesn't follow through.




Deal. Considering that Hillary is the second most hated presidential candidate in the history of the united states 100k signatures shouldn't be too hard to rustle up.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662196 - 09/20/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can ban the one who doesn't follow through.




Deal. Considering that Hillary is the second most hated presidential candidate in the history of the united states 100k signatures shouldn't be too hard to rustle up.



Did the white house make a formal response to the kratom petition? It had well over 100k. The DEA follow up comment doesn't count.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
    #23662209 - 09/20/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also we have to set a time limit or else it's hard to say I won because you might say "well they might still make a statement. If they haven't made one within 3 weeks of the petition reaching 100k.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
    #23662223 - 09/20/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Also we have to set a time limit or else it's hard to say I won because you might say "well they might still make a statement. If they haven't made one within 3 weeks of the petition reaching 100k.




If a petition reaches 100k signatures the whitehouse responds regardless of what the petition is on. So, the time limit will be set at sixty days from Oct 20th.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #23662231 - 09/20/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This similar one has 246k signatures:

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Charge Hillary Rodham Clinton pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 641, 793, 794, 798, 952, and 1924
Created by Z.T. on July 05, 2016




The response was basically "no comment":

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Thank you for signing this We the People petition.

We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.

We encourage you to use the We the People platform to petition the Administration to take action on the policy issues you care about. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts for their review, and issue an official response.

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-hillary-rodham-clinton-pursuant-18-usc-641-793-794-798-952-and-1924


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23662239 - 09/20/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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falsereality said:
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Thayendanegea said:
Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.



I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.:shrug:





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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: psi]
    #23662262 - 09/20/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
This similar one has 246k signatures:

Quote:

Charge Hillary Rodham Clinton pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 641, 793, 794, 798, 952, and 1924
Created by Z.T. on July 05, 2016




The response was basically "no comment":

Quote:

Thank you for signing this We the People petition.

We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.

We encourage you to use the We the People platform to petition the Administration to take action on the policy issues you care about. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts for their review, and issue an official response.

Thanks,
-- The We the People Team




https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-hillary-rodham-clinton-pursuant-18-usc-641-793-794-798-952-and-1924




My goal isn't to enact change directly, it is to simply get a response, even if that response is bullshit. This petition is only step one in a multi-faceted approach to hurt her campaign.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662409 - 09/20/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that doesn't count as a statement if they "decline to comment"


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
    #23662417 - 09/20/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah that doesn't count as a statement if they "decline to comment"




No deal then. :shrug:.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662776 - 09/20/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol u really think anyone would accept

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Thank you for signing this We the People petition.

We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.

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As a genuine response? That's clearly just some copypaste bullshit they put to any and all petitions they dont want to respond to.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23662919 - 09/20/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.




Then you know that mishandling classified material is like speeding. Everyone does it. It's almost impossible not to.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23662929 - 09/20/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Then why are they hating on Snowden so hard?


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23663534 - 09/20/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/we-people-demand-hillary-clinton-be-prosecuted-crimes-she-has-committed

:lolsy:

let's see where this goes.





where have any of these petitions on Tardbama's website gone


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23663579 - 09/20/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Then why are they hating on Snowden so hard?



Lol. He stole classified material and gave it to the media. was that a serious question?


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    #23663613 - 09/20/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@koods
Speeding is in no way, shape or form similar to the handling of classified information.

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where have any of these petitions on Tardbama's website gone




The point of the petition isn't to enact change, it is to bring to light the crimes of Hillary Clinton. This election is going to be razor thin, I really fucking hate clinton and anything I can do to hurt her campaign is a win in my book. The petition is just a small component of a larger project I'm working on to publicly undermine her character.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23663620 - 09/20/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So... "mishandling" classified material is more acceptable then appropriating  classified material and handling it over to the media?


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23663675 - 09/20/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.




Actually she did break the law...even according to the FBI. Comey said so himself, so I'm not sure why you're arguing otherwise (though I have my suspicions :flowstone:)

And James Comey ignored the part in 18 U.S. Code § 793 where it says this...
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(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both




So not only did Comey ignore the fact that the law implies that criminal intent is not necessary for a violation to have occurred, he also went on to call her actions "extremely careless", instead of "grossly negligent", a synonymous description meaning exactly the same thing.

You don't have to be a lawyer to be able to comprehend the fact that he said she was guilty but in this particular instance he wouldn't recommend charges. If you're someone who still actually believes that non-guilt is the reason she was let off the hook...then you're clearly not paying attention and you're wayyyyyyy behind on the news cycle.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23663682 - 09/20/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.

Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President. :facepalm:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23663747 - 09/20/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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where have any of these petitions on Tardbama's website gone




The point of the petition isn't to enact change, it is to bring to light the crimes of Hillary Clinton.




are you saying hillary is a criminal and people dont know?



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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23663805 - 09/21/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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are you saying hillary is a criminal and people dont know?






Some people know, I'm aiming to make sure everyone knows. I'll email you a website I'm working on that fully details her crimes with sources from multiple government agencies and Cornell's legal resources. Just need to finish citing law journals at the moment because she committed so many fucking crimes.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664026 - 09/21/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.

Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President. :facepalm:



There is no such thing as being disqualified from holding public office. Lol. Why don't you point me to the section of the constitution where it says that.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23664035 - 09/21/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no such thing as being disqualified from holding public office. Lol. Why don't you point me to the section of the constitution where it says that.




We can do this the easy way or the hard way koods. You can either admit you're wrong now, or we can have a drawn out discussion on how wrong you are.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23664538 - 09/21/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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are you saying hillary is a criminal and people dont know?






Some people know, I'm aiming to make sure everyone knows. I'll email you a website I'm working on that fully details her crimes with sources from multiple government agencies and Cornell's legal resources. Just need to finish citing law journals at the moment because she committed so many fucking crimes.



What an original idea. Nobody has thought of making a website smearing the Clintons before.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664579 - 09/21/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/we-people-demand-hillary-clinton-be-prosecuted-crimes-she-has-committed

:lolsy:

let's see where this goes.




If that thing picks up steam I can easily imagine seeing several million of signatures.

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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664625 - 09/21/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.




As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.




This is true. I heard interviews with FBI people where they were saying anyone else who did what she did would absolutely be in jail already.

And those crimes are not the most significant she is guilty of.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23664639 - 09/21/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol anybody else and nobody would bat an eyelid. The bankers and corporate executives who orchestrated the 2008 financial crisis and cost taxpayers over ten trillion dollars and kept their jobs and bonuses are off scott free while we're making a national crisis over fucking emails. Lol


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23664654 - 09/21/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol anybody else and nobody would bat an eyelid. The bankers and corporate executives who orchestrated the 2008 financial crisis and cost taxpayers over ten trillion dollars and kept their jobs and bonuses are off scott free while we're making a national crisis over fucking emails. Lol




That's very true and who's their hired whore for the next 4 years?  Hillary, so of course the law doesn't apply to them or their puppets.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods] * 2
    #23664659 - 09/21/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.

Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President. :facepalm:



There is no such thing as being disqualified from holding public office. Lol. Why don't you point me to the section of the constitution where it says that.




Under Title 18 of U.S. Code, there most certainly is such thing as penalty of disqualification from public office.

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally reads:
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(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.





No such thing... psssssh.
Why do you make up these fairy tales, Koods? :crazy2:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23664676 - 09/21/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol anybody else and nobody would bat an eyelid. The bankers and corporate executives who orchestrated the 2008 financial crisis and cost taxpayers over ten trillion dollars and kept their jobs and bonuses are off scott free while we're making a national crisis over fucking emails. Lol




Those bankers and execs are a problem as well. Their actions and lack of punitive consequences in no way negates or downplays Hillary Clinton's crimes.

And it's not a "national crisis over fucking emails". It's a criminal cover-up of a criminally-corrupt politician running for high office, who willfully violated multiple laws regarding classified information handling, FOIA, etc... Just because your Marxist hero, Bernie Sanders, said "The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails", doesn't make it so.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664677 - 09/21/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry, bro. That doesn't apply to a presidential candidate. The constitution describes who is qualified to be elected president. Only a constitutional amendment can alter those qualifications, such as the 22nd.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664691 - 09/21/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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SHE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW




Your head is so far up your ass non-euclidean mathematics can't be used to describe the physical stress your abdomen must be feeling.



What a dick head smug assed comment ...how mathematically  euclidian  that rock must be you carry on  your shoulders. Wow!...and you even know big words....how impressive.:kidsmirk:


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    #23664693 - 09/21/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol anybody else and nobody would bat an eyelid. The bankers and corporate executives who orchestrated the 2008 financial crisis and cost taxpayers over ten trillion dollars and kept their jobs and bonuses are off scott free while we're making a national crisis over fucking emails. Lol




Those bankers and execs are a problem as well. Their actions and lack of punitive consequences in no way negates or downplays Hillary Clinton's crimes.

And it's not a "national crisis over fucking emails". It's a criminal cover-up of a criminally-corrupt politician running for high office, who willfully violated multiple laws regarding classified information handling, FOIA, etc... Just because your Marxist hero, Bernie Sanders, said "The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails", doesn't make it so.




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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23664697 - 09/21/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry, bro. That doesn't apply to a presidential candidate. The constitution describes who is qualified to be elected president. Only a constitutional amendment can alter those qualifications, such as the 22nd.




Don't forget, the mandatory penalty for her crimes also includes imprisonment. It's kind of hard to hold public office from a mandatory prison cell, ain't it? Which makes your argument moot.

Besides, show me where in the 22nd Amendment it says that Presidential Candidates can't be disqualified from holding the office, let alone are granted immunity for breaking laws...

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22nd Amendment
Amendment XXII

Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.





Hint: It doesn't.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664701 - 09/21/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If Clinton was known to have eaten one single baby, would she still be the right choice for president?

Surely eating babies doesn't make one a bad leader.


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    #23664712 - 09/21/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She doesn't eat the babies, she just sucks their youthful souls right out of them and leaves the shriveled up body on the ground.


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    #23664716 - 09/21/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry, bro. That doesn't apply to a presidential candidate. The constitution describes who is qualified to be elected president. Only a constitutional amendment can alter those qualifications, such as the 22nd.




Don't forget, the mandatory penalty for her crimes also includes imprisonment. It's kind of hard to hold public office from a mandatory prison cell, ain't it? Which makes your argument moot.

Besides, show me where in the 22nd Amendment it says that Presidential Candidates can't be disqualified from holding the office, let alone are granted immunity for breaking laws...

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22nd Amendment
Amendment XXII

Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.





Hint: It doesn't.




Yup it doesn't. The only qualifications for president are listed in the constitution. If the consitition doesn't list it, then it's not a qualification.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Herbologist]
    #23664719 - 09/21/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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She doesn't eat the babies, she just sucks their youthful souls right out of them and leaves the shriveled up body on the ground.




The American people are sick and tired of hearing about Hillary's damn vamprirism of innocents!

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    #23664726 - 09/21/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

By the way...All you Trump lovers....Tax documents just released from one of his charitable foundations clearly demonstrates that He...(That's Donald Trump for you non-believers) used charitable donations several times to pay off personal debts...even wrote a check for $5000.00 for a painting of himself with funds coming from his foundation.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/

I'm sure you will all shrug this off with your euclidian mathematical logic though....But oh yeah....Hillary used a private service for borderline classified emails....Not secret or top secret....CLASSIFIED...and that's much much worse than stealing money from your own charity. I just don't understand why you guys don't see this man for what he is.....A FRAUD.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23664729 - 09/21/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry, bro. That doesn't apply to a presidential candidate. The constitution describes who is qualified to be elected president. Only a constitutional amendment can alter those qualifications, such as the 22nd.




Don't forget, the mandatory penalty for her crimes also includes imprisonment. It's kind of hard to hold public office from a mandatory prison cell, ain't it? Which makes your argument moot.

Besides, show me where in the 22nd Amendment it says that Presidential Candidates can't be disqualified from holding the office, let alone are granted immunity for breaking laws...

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22nd Amendment
Amendment XXII

Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.





Hint: It doesn't.




Yup it doesn't. The only qualifications for president are listed in the constitution. If the consitition doesn't list it, then it's not a qualification.




Wow. What a rock solid argument. :rolleyes:
The Constitution doesn't need to specifically state that Presidential Candidates can be disqualified on the basis of violating laws that carry penalties of disqualification. That's already implied and easily understood by anyone with a half a brain.

And like I said, it's kind of hard to be President when you're living in a prison cell.


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    #23664732 - 09/21/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/we-people-demand-hillary-clinton-be-prosecuted-crimes-she-has-committed

:lolsy:

let's see where this goes.




If that thing picks up steam I can easily imagine seeing several million of signatures.

Post itt on Trump's twitter account



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    #23664734 - 09/21/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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By the way...All you Trump lovers....Tax documents just released from one of his charitable foundations clearly demonstrates that He...(That's Donald Trump for you non-believers) used charitable donations several times to pay off personal debts...even wrote a check for $5000.00 for a painting of himself with funds coming from his foundation.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/

I'm sure you will all shrug this off with your euclidian mathematical logic though....But oh yeah....Hillary used a private service for borderline classified emails....Not secret or top secret....CLASSIFIED...and that's much much worse than stealing money from your own charity. I just don't understand why you guys don't see this man for what he is.....A FRAUD.




And how many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation ripped off from received donations to the Haiti relief effort, amongst other things?

I just don't understand why you don't see this woman for what she is.....A FRAUD.


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    #23664741 - 09/21/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The fucked up part of this is there's so much the people aren't suppose to know so she has to keep everything secret. I am glad she didn't give a shit to hide evrything the truth should be free for all to see and if not hiding what's happening is a crime and you think it's a bad thing that's what is fucked here. Have fun petitioning to make sure u stay in loyal servitude to your masters you ignorant sheeples...


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    #23664743 - 09/21/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Doesn't seem to be picking up steam so far, there are still only two signatures.




I just now sent a couple emails and tweets to Trump's team and also sent a few to clinton herself :rofl:. Rome wasn't built in a day PSI, it was destroyed like eight times and rebuilt over and over again. I had to retask a server in asia to host the site, along with adding DDOS protection and making sure the site isn't vulnerable and anonymous and blahblahblah.


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    #23664744 - 09/21/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Dude. The constitution IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY on what the qualifications are for president. I know you're a little dense sometimes, so I'll just spell it out: you're wrong.


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    #23664746 - 09/21/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude. The constitution IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY on what the qualifications are for president. I know you're a little dense sometimes, so I'll just spell it out: you're wrong.




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    #23664755 - 09/21/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Koods will go to the ends of the earth to protect his Queen. Dude is fucking long gone.

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    #23664764 - 09/21/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude. The constitution IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY on what the qualifications are for president. I know you're a little dense sometimes, so I'll just spell it out: you're wrong.




Ok, cards on the table, are you trolling right now or do you actually believe that?




What I find amazing is you don't know this. Do they even teach civics anymore? I suggest you grab a copy of the constitution and give it a read


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Dude. The constitution IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY on what the qualifications are for president. I know you're a little dense sometimes, so I'll just spell it out: you're wrong.




Ok, cards on the table, are you trolling right now or do you actually believe that?




What I find amazing is you don't know this. Do they even teach civics anymore? I suggest you grab a copy of the constitution and give it a read




I actually read the constitution in its entirety about two weeks ago because I was bored and wanted to have a better understanding of it :smirk:.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664775 - 09/21/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

United States v. Caron, 941 F. Supp. 238, 254 — 55 (D. Mass. 1996) (Young, J.)

(“[T]he Constitution is the sole source of eligibility for President of the United States and it does not preclude felons. U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 5 … .” (citing Powell v. McCormack, supra) (emphasis added));

Nat’l Comm. of the U.S. Taxpayers Party v. Garza, 924 F. Supp. 71, 75 — 76 (W.D. Tex. 1996) (Nowlin, J.) (citing U.S. Term Limits, supra); Gordon v. Secretary of State of N.J., 460 F. Supp. 1026, 1027 (D.N.J. 1978) (Biunno, J.)

(“As a consequence, whether in jail or not, nothing prevented Gordon from seeking to gain the votes of enough electors to have been elected President of the United States… . Eugene V. Debs ran for President four times and was a candidate while in jail. Gordon was free to do the same.” (footnote omitted)); see also, e.g., Derek T. Muller, Scrutinizing Federal Electoral Qualifications, 90 Ind. L.J. 559, 571 (2015) (“Courts have occasionally treated the holding in U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton, which found the qualifications for members of Congress enumerated in the Constitution as exclusive, applicable to presidential elections, too.” (footnote omitted)).


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    #23664778 - 09/21/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What I find amusing is that you cited an irrelevant source in order to weave your non-existent loophole, and then posture yourself as being smart...basically to arrive at the same conclusion as this braindead idiot @1:28


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    #23664785 - 09/21/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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By the way...All you Trump lovers....Tax documents just released from one of his charitable foundations clearly demonstrates that He...(That's Donald Trump for you non-believers) used charitable donations several times to pay off personal debts...even wrote a check for $5000.00 for a painting of himself with funds coming from his foundation.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/

I'm sure you will all shrug this off with your euclidian mathematical logic though....But oh yeah....Hillary used a private service for borderline classified emails....Not secret or top secret....CLASSIFIED...and that's much much worse than stealing money from your own charity. I just don't understand why you guys don't see this man for what he is.....A FRAUD.




And how many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation ripped off from received donations to the Haiti relief effort, amongst other things?

I just don't understand why you don't see this woman for what she is.....A FRAUD.



How bout a credible link?


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664786 - 09/21/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude. The constitution IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY on what the qualifications are for president. I know you're a little dense sometimes, so I'll just spell it out: you're wrong.




Ok, cards on the table, are you trolling right now or do you actually believe that?




What I find amazing is you don't know this. Do they even teach civics anymore? I suggest you grab a copy of the constitution and give it a read




I actually read the constitution in its entirety about two weeks ago because I was bored and wanted to have a better understanding of it :smirk:.




Why don't you share with us the part that says someone who violated a federal statute and was convicted cannot be president.


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By the way...All you Trump lovers....Tax documents just released from one of his charitable foundations clearly demonstrates that He...(That's Donald Trump for you non-believers) used charitable donations several times to pay off personal debts...even wrote a check for $5000.00 for a painting of himself with funds coming from his foundation.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/

I'm sure you will all shrug this off with your euclidian mathematical logic though....But oh yeah....Hillary used a private service for borderline classified emails....Not secret or top secret....CLASSIFIED...and that's much much worse than stealing money from your own charity. I just don't understand why you guys don't see this man for what he is.....A FRAUD.




And how many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation ripped off from received donations to the Haiti relief effort, amongst other things?

I just don't understand why you don't see this woman for what she is.....A FRAUD.



How bout a credible link?




http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti+fraud


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664788 - 09/21/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Doesn't seem to be picking up steam so far, there are still only two signatures.




I just now sent a couple emails and tweets to Trump's team and also sent a few to clinton herself :rofl:. Rome wasn't built in a day PSI, it was destroyed like eight times and rebuilt over and over again.



Just seems to me like this petition doesn't really add anything new, that other one that already has 246k signatures is saying pretty much the same thing. Wouldn't most people with an interest in promoting such a petition just direct people to the one that already has lots of signatures?


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664792 - 09/21/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What I find amusing is that you cited an irrelevant source in order to weave your non-existent loophole, and then posture yourself as being smart...basically to arrive at the same conclusion as this braindead idiot @1:28





Constitutional case law is irrelevant? It's actually the only opinion that is relevant.


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    #23664798 - 09/21/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Check out Article 2 Section 4 of the constitution Koods. Hey, maybe you should read the constitution!


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664816 - 09/21/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And? That says nothing about eligibility. You have to be president to be impeached.


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    #23664831 - 09/21/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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By the way...All you Trump lovers....Tax documents just released from one of his charitable foundations clearly demonstrates that He...(That's Donald Trump for you non-believers) used charitable donations several times to pay off personal debts...even wrote a check for $5000.00 for a painting of himself with funds coming from his foundation.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/

I'm sure you will all shrug this off with your euclidian mathematical logic though....But oh yeah....Hillary used a private service for borderline classified emails....Not secret or top secret....CLASSIFIED...and that's much much worse than stealing money from your own charity. I just don't understand why you guys don't see this man for what he is.....A FRAUD.




And how many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation ripped off from received donations to the Haiti relief effort, amongst other things?

I just don't understand why you don't see this woman for what she is.....A FRAUD.



How bout a credible link?




http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti+fraud



lol...I said credible...Nothing in there says she did anything other than try to help stabilize a rabid economy. Sending relief after an earthquake....Oh yeah....that should be a felony.

The only links that say anything bad are your politically slanted propaganda bullshit rags.


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    #23664839 - 09/21/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And? That says nothing about eligibility. You have to be president to be impeached.




Any way you cut it koods, Clinton is a career criminal who isn't fit to be president.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23664842 - 09/21/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Check out Article 2 Section 4 of the constitution Koods. Hey, maybe you should read the constitution!




Right. I'll interpret if you don't mind.

What this means is that on Friday, the 20th of January, 2017, Hillary would be immediately impeached by Congress the moment she is inaugurated. So although she may have a protection from a legal disqualifier in running for the Presidency, she has no such legal protection for holding said office. This makes Kood's proposed legal loophole completely impractical (Unless your agenda is to just get the Democrats in the White House and have Tim Kaine take over).

At any rate, it's a political disqualifier, even if it's not a legal disqualifier. She should be running her campaign from a prison cell just like the fellow that Koods cited in that legal precedent. But of course that wouldn't be a good look and would more than likely cause her support to plummet, rendering her campaign impotent and futile.

So what's the big deal? If she can still run for President while under Federal indictment, while on trial, and while in prison, then why isn't she doing so?


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    #23664850 - 09/21/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How bout a credible link?




http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti+fraud



lol...I said credible...Nothing in there says she did anything other than try to help stabilize a rabid economy. Sending relief after an earthquake....Oh yeah....that should be a felony.

The only links that say anything bad are your politically slanted propaganda bullshit rags.




Nothing in where? I directed you to a search query (since you were too lazy to do it on your own). There's countless links to look through and I didn't direct you to any particular one of them. So where exactly do you get off talking about my "politically slanted propaganda bullshit rags"?

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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23664856 - 09/21/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And Trump will be in the men's prison across the road. Still not having coughed up his personal income tax data.


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    #23664862 - 09/21/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How bout a credible link?




http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti+fraud



lol...I said credible...Nothing in there says she did anything other than try to help stabilize a rabid economy. Sending relief after an earthquake....Oh yeah....that should be a felony.

The only links that say anything bad are your politically slanted propaganda bullshit rags.




Nothing in where? I directed you to a search query (since you were too lazy to do it on your own). There's countless links to look through and I didn't direct you to any particular one of them. So where exactly do you get off talking about my "politically slanted propaganda bullshit rags"?

:braindamage:



Maybe if you actually read some of these links, you would begin to understand....I know that's a stretch though.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23664872 - 09/21/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is this where you go to get your "unbiased" information regarding the Clinton Foundation's Haiti relief effort? ---> https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-foundation-haiti

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    #23664882 - 09/21/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is the president of a sovereign nation a credible source?



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    #23664889 - 09/21/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Let's try this. How about instead of just stamping your feet and calling it a "politically slanted propaganda bullshit rag", you actually go through this article by the National Review and point out specifically what you think they got wrong.

How the Clinton Foundation Got Rich off Poor Haitians


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    #23664920 - 09/21/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Now why on earth would I read a column by William Buckley's conservative bullshit propaganda rag?...You're just spewing more crap.


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    #23664928 - 09/21/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So you can't actually refute any specific claims regarding the Clinton's defrauding of worldwide donors and the people of Haiti?

What have you got to lose? Prove me wrong or stfu.


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    #23665022 - 09/21/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There is no proving you wrong...your mind is made up and you will use any propaganda you can find to prove your misguided point.

The onus us on you to prove that she did something wrong with a CREDIBLE / UNBIASED source. Not on me to prove that she didn't. :goodluckwiththat2:


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    #23665036 - 09/21/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no proving you wrong...your mind is made up and you will use any propaganda you can find to prove your misguided point.

The onus us on you to prove that she did something wrong with a CREDIBLE / UNBIASED source. Not on me to prove that she didn't. :goodluckwiththat2:




Just goes to show, you can only lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

LOL @ you for not even being able to take 10-15 minutes to read up on this.


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    #23665043 - 09/21/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Check out Article 2 Section 4 of the constitution Koods. Hey, maybe you should read the constitution!




Right. I'll interpret if you don't mind.

What this means is that on Friday, the 20th of January, 2017, Hillary would be immediately impeached by Congress the moment she is inaugurated. So although she may have a protection from a legal disqualifier in running for the Presidency, she has no such legal protection for holding said office. This makes Kood's proposed legal loophole completely impractical (Unless your agenda is to just get the Democrats in the White House and have Tim Kaine take over).

At any rate, it's a political disqualifier, even if it's not a legal disqualifier. She should be running her campaign from a prison cell just like the fellow that Koods cited in that legal precedent. But of course that wouldn't be a good look and would more than likely cause her support to plummet, rendering her campaign impotent and futile.

So what's the big deal? If she can still run for President while under Federal indictment, while on trial, and while in prison, then why isn't she doing so?




Because she hasn't committed a crime. Unlike Trump, she hasn't violated any laws.


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    #23665044 - 09/21/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Petition to prostitute hillary clinton?


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    #23665063 - 09/21/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Is the president of a sovereign nation a credible source?






Oh, an Aristide lackey.

True story, I spent a Christmas at the house of my boyfriends classmate's exiled Haitian family in Austria in the early 90s. I asked the father if he would ever consider running for president. He said no. He ended up becoming president nonetheless.


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    #23665067 - 09/21/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Petition to prostitute hillary clinton?




The Whore of Babylon need not be persuaded by such a petition. It's like throwing lit matches at a raging inferno.


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    #23665077 - 09/21/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People really want to no contest Trump into office?


American democracy ladies and gentlemen.



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    #23665089 - 09/21/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

True. The DNC should have thought of that before they ran Hillary.


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    #23665113 - 09/21/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

November 20th. That's when Trumps actual trial begins.


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    #23665120 - 09/21/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well bad things do happen when the representatives of the pseudo-democracy are as dumb and uninformed as the general public.


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    #23665134 - 09/21/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can't always get what you want
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    #23665143 - 09/21/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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True story, I spent a Christmas at the house of my boyfriends classmate's exiled Haitian family in Austria in the early 90s. I asked the father if he would ever consider running for president. He said no. He ended up becoming president nonetheless.




... and?

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Another..

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/disqualify-and-remove-hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-ballot-due-her-violation-u-s-code-title-18-sec-2071




Added to the site.

Also hired a couple hardcore marketing agencies in Pakistan, England, and Argentina to "get the ball rolling" on facebook, twitter... etc :smirk:. If clinton isn't playing by the rules, why should I?


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    #23672695 - 09/23/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

12k+ twitter followers in the last 24hrs. Physicians, physicists, journalists... etc. High quality followers. Now to start a retweeting campaign to get 100k plus people to sign.

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    #23672762 - 09/24/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.

Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President. :facepalm:



There is no such thing as being disqualified from holding public office.





false

can a felon or a foreign national hold the office of the president?

many states will not allow a member of the communist or nazi parties to hold public office


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23675697 - 09/25/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The snowball is rolling down the hill in quite an elegant fashion. Twitter campaign is going swimmingly, 1k retweets within the last hour, will go to 30k+ in less than two days. Now on to start a facebook campaign to share links/tweets... Hella dank SEO and greyhat marketing. Failure isn't on the table at the moment, pretty much guaranteed to get 100k sigs in fifteen days, not to mention the site I started is gaining value daily due to rising search rankings.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Ezuma]
    #23675700 - 09/25/16 01:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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especially considering the last republican president started a war based on outright lies, and had utterly no comeuppance





I thought the Iraq war was done to kill Saddam Hussien? :confused:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23675704 - 09/25/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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especially considering the last republican president started a war based on outright lies, and had utterly no comeuppance





I thought the Iraq war was done to kill Saddam Hussien? :confused:




No, it was waged on the premise that Iraq had WMDs which was false at the time and has since been proven so.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: snave]
    #23675706 - 09/25/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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especially considering the last republican president started a war based on outright lies, and had utterly no comeuppance





I thought the Iraq war was done to kill Saddam Hussien? :confused:




No, it was waged on the premise that Iraq had WMDs which was false at the time and has since been proven so.




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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23675726 - 09/25/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.



She did break the law but there was no case history of anyone ever being prosecuted in that manner. They couldn't prove she did it intentionally for nefarious activities like hiding her communications (which she did). She then had thousands of emails deleted by a professional PC company. It's pretty obvious she was intentionally hiding something. Anyone other than a Clinton would go down hard.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23676353 - 09/25/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.

Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President. :facepalm:



There is no such thing as being disqualified from holding public office.





false

can a felon or a foreign national hold the office of the president?

many states will not allow a member of the communist or nazi parties to hold public office


so yeah, a person can be disqualified from holding public office




Yeah I should have qualified that as constitutional officers cannot be disqualified except as described in the constitution: senators, congressmen (constitution allows the house to make rules), president and Vice President. The ONLY qualifications for president are 35 or older, natural born citizen and only two terms. The is nothing about being a felon. You can run for president if you are a convicted pedophile, and if elected you would become president. Congress could then choose to impeach, although
Not exactly sure if "crimes and misdemeanors" are limited to actions or crimes taken while in office.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 3
    #23676359 - 09/25/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The snowball is rolling down the hill in quite an elegant fashion. Twitter campaign is going swimmingly, 1k retweets within the last hour, will go to 30k+ in less than two days. Now on to start a facebook campaign to share links/tweets... Hella dank SEO and greyhat marketing. Failure isn't on the table at the moment, pretty much guaranteed to get 100k sigs in fifteen days, not to mention the site I started is gaining value daily due to rising search rankings.



What the hell are you talking about


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23676364 - 09/25/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The snowball is rolling down the hill in quite an elegant fashion. Twitter campaign is going swimmingly, 1k retweets within the last hour, will go to 30k+ in less than two days. Now on to start a facebook campaign to share links/tweets... Hella dank SEO and greyhat marketing. Failure isn't on the table at the moment, pretty much guaranteed to get 100k sigs in fifteen days, not to mention the site I started is gaining value daily due to rising search rankings.




Don't dissappear on us.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23676386 - 09/25/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why are you so eagerly citing legal technicalities to justify electing and inaugurating a criminally-corrupt government official to the Presidency? That's the real question. Have you no shame?


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
    #23676446 - 09/25/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Get over it. Hillary hasn't been charged with any crime. It's just a right wing fanatasy - not a very original one either. it's your candidate who is going on trial soon.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23676465 - 09/25/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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True story, I spent a Christmas at the house of my boyfriends classmate's exiled Haitian family in Austria in the early 90s. I asked the father if he would ever consider running for president. He said no. He ended up becoming president nonetheless.




... and?

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Another..

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/disqualify-and-remove-hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-ballot-due-her-violation-u-s-code-title-18-sec-2071




Added to the site.

Also hired a couple hardcore marketing agencies in Pakistan, England, and Argentina to "get the ball rolling" on facebook, twitter... etc :smirk:. If clinton isn't playing by the rules, why should I?




What exactly are you doing? Making an anti Hillary website? How original. :facepalm:

You know there are people who have made their living - since probably before you were born - compiling dirt on the clintons. It's a cottage industry.

I've never seen a worse performing petition on whitehouse.org than the one tripp23 posted. 667 signatures in 21 days.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods] * 1
    #23676477 - 09/25/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing preventing a conviction is the current Justice Department's failure to even allow prosecution.  It's not for lack of evidence to convict, but rather lack of an actual trial before jury. The case is pretty much open and shut should it ever be allowed to go to trial. Hillary is 100% guilty and that's a fact.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton *DELETED* [Re: koods] * 1
    #23676882 - 09/25/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23678915 - 09/26/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What the hell are you talking about




The hackers I hired are doing their jobs goddamn well. Getting hella organic traffic to my site now and hella organic likes/retweets on twitter. 20k+ retweets over the last hour.

I'm being purposefully cryptic because if this blows up in my face, I need plausible deniability.

I'm going to fight till the end to destroy her reputation, even if she gets elected, I'm not going to stop.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality] * 4
    #23679243 - 09/26/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hella delusions of grandeur


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Hobozen]
    #23679267 - 09/26/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. Some guy who has been involved in smearing the clintons for decades is mad at the FBI director because he wanted Clinton to get in trouble.

You do know Joseph Digenova and his wife are essentially professional Clinton antagonists. They were also involved in releasing the identity of an undercover CIA agent


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23679292 - 09/26/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hella delusions of grandeur




LOL. Try again bro, they're only delusions if my perception of reality differs from the majority of others' perspectives. Guess what? I don't need other's opinions to tell me how well my plan is working. Check out my web-traffic over a one minute period :smirk:.




You're so wrong and it's kind of cute, but also saddening because I expected more from you.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679319 - 09/26/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

At least your username is accurate


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23679325 - 09/26/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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At least your username is accurate




Come on dude. Surely you can think of a better comeback than that.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679351 - 09/26/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, I'm sorry. You're a big time player. You're gonna bring down the system with your super duper hacking skills.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23679373 - 09/26/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok, I'm sorry. You're a big time player. You're gonna bring down the system with your super duper hacking skills.




I was thinking more like "You compensate for your insecurities by distracting yourself with bullshit you'll never be able to accomplish."

But hey, nice attempt.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679431 - 09/26/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You don't always drink beer. But when you do, you prefer Dos Equis


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679436 - 09/26/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:laugh2:

You're doing a great job at trying desperately to prove how smart and badass you are to internet people with your persona on this website. It doesn't take much to uncover what's going on looking through your posts.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
    #23679439 - 09/26/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i think koods is very nice and genuinely cares about america and falsereality is a loyal, class act sort of guy with a strong moral compass.


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    #23679463 - 09/26/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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:laugh2:

You're doing a great job at trying desperately to prove how smart and badass you are to internet people with your persona on this website. It doesn't take much to uncover what's going on looking through your posts.




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    #23679765 - 09/26/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23679892 - 09/26/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.

Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.



She did break the law but there was no case history of anyone ever being prosecuted in that manner. They couldn't prove she did it intentionally for nefarious activities like hiding her communications (which she did). She then had thousands of emails deleted by a professional PC company. It's pretty obvious she was intentionally hiding something. Anyone other than a Clinton would go down hard.



Lol...It was her personal email ...I would erase mine too....wouldn't you? She certainly didn't want the Trump circus getting a hold of any personal dialogue...no telling where they would go with that.

This email fiasco is a losing battle for you Micky Mouse Trump supporters...you would do well to let it die or your candidate will in his campaign. Everyone with a grain of sense is sick and tired of hearing about this and Benghazi...The only dirt that could be manipulated enough to smear her name to the out of touch Trumpeteers.:peace:


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    #23679904 - 09/26/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol...It was her personal email ...I would erase mine too....wouldn't you? She certainly didn't want the Trump circus getting a hold of any personal dialogue...no telling where they would go with that.

This email fiasco is a losing battle for you Micky Mouse Trump supporters...you would do well to let it die or your candidate will in his campaign. Everyone with a grain of sense is sick and tired of hearing about this and Benghazi...The only dirt that could be manipulated enough to smear her name to the out of touch Trumpeteers.:peace:




:rofl: She had SAP's and TS:SCI info on her personal email server. If information like that was leaked, it could destabilize countries and start wars.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679921 - 09/26/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol...It was her personal email ...I would erase mine too....wouldn't you? She certainly didn't want the Trump circus getting a hold of any personal dialogue...no telling where they would go with that.

This email fiasco is a losing battle for you Micky Mouse Trump supporters...you would do well to let it die or your candidate will in his campaign. Everyone with a grain of sense is sick and tired of hearing about this and Benghazi...The only dirt that could be manipulated enough to smear her name to the out of touch Trumpeteers.:peace:




:rofl: She had SAP's and TS:SCI info on her personal email server. If information like that was leaked, it could destabilize countries and start wars.



Kindly point out these destabilized countries and wars that her email caused.:laugh2:


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679922 - 09/26/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Every single person in head of state or what ever her official title was knows good god damn well what is legal and how to read, treat, and handle classified information. She is a flat out liar and a criminal.


I plead the fifth.


Also petitions don't mean crap, I don't think they even looked at the petition for Snowden. The pet for KraTom in Indiana did absolutely nothing, aND neither will the one for Kratom on the sched 1.


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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
    #23679924 - 09/26/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



LMAO!

The more that I hear about Hillary the worse it gets.  She is the definition of a fucking train wreck :rofl:

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