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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23662182 - 09/20/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: This will do about as much good as the Kratom petition
I disagree. I just want a formal response from the whitehouse which would legitimatize the petition and in turn hurt her campaign.
Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can do a 2 week ban for the one who doesn't follow through.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
#23662189 - 09/20/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can ban the one who doesn't follow through.
Deal. Considering that Hillary is the second most hated presidential candidate in the history of the united states 100k signatures shouldn't be too hard to rustle up.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23662196 - 09/20/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Wanna bet on that? I'll buy you a one month sub if the whitehouse makes a formal response to it, you buy me a one month sub if they don't, the admins can ban the one who doesn't follow through.
Deal. Considering that Hillary is the second most hated presidential candidate in the history of the united states 100k signatures shouldn't be too hard to rustle up.
Did the white house make a formal response to the kratom petition? It had well over 100k. The DEA follow up comment doesn't count.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
#23662209 - 09/20/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also we have to set a time limit or else it's hard to say I won because you might say "well they might still make a statement. If they haven't made one within 3 weeks of the petition reaching 100k.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
#23662223 - 09/20/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Also we have to set a time limit or else it's hard to say I won because you might say "well they might still make a statement. If they haven't made one within 3 weeks of the petition reaching 100k.
If a petition reaches 100k signatures the whitehouse responds regardless of what the petition is on. So, the time limit will be set at sixty days from Oct 20th.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted] 2
#23662231 - 09/20/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This similar one has 246k signatures:
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Charge Hillary Rodham Clinton pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 641, 793, 794, 798, 952, and 1924 Created by Z.T. on July 05, 2016
The response was basically "no comment":
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Thank you for signing this We the People petition.
We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.
We encourage you to use the We the People platform to petition the Administration to take action on the policy issues you care about. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts for their review, and issue an official response.
Thanks, -- The We the People Team
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-hillary-rodham-clinton-pursuant-18-usc-641-793-794-798-952-and-1924
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea] 1
#23662239 - 09/20/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.
Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.
As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.
I am so fucking tired of hearing about this....So, tell me...exactly what world changing and catastrophic events have transpired as a result of her borderline "classified" emails that were not protected. This has been GOP propaganda campaign fodder for way too long. I am sure it will not happen again...now, let's move on.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: psi]
#23662262 - 09/20/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: This similar one has 246k signatures:
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Charge Hillary Rodham Clinton pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 641, 793, 794, 798, 952, and 1924 Created by Z.T. on July 05, 2016
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Thank you for signing this We the People petition.
We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.
We encourage you to use the We the People platform to petition the Administration to take action on the policy issues you care about. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts for their review, and issue an official response.
Thanks, -- The We the People Team
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-hillary-rodham-clinton-pursuant-18-usc-641-793-794-798-952-and-1924
My goal isn't to enact change directly, it is to simply get a response, even if that response is bullshit. This petition is only step one in a multi-faceted approach to hurt her campaign.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23662409 - 09/20/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah that doesn't count as a statement if they "decline to comment"
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: morrowasted]
#23662417 - 09/20/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No deal then. .
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23662776 - 09/20/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol u really think anyone would accept
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Thank you for signing this We the People petition.
We decline to comment on the specific request raised in the petition, which falls outside the scope of the We the People Terms of Participation. You can read the full Terms of Participation to get a better sense of why We the People is designed the way it is, and to learn more about its guidelines for use.
We encourage you to use the We the People platform to petition the Administration to take action on the policy issues you care about. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts for their review, and issue an official response.
Thanks, -- The We the People Team
As a genuine response? That's clearly just some copypaste bullshit they put to any and all petitions they dont want to respond to.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23662919 - 09/20/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.
Ho bout we start a petition to get every Trump supporter checked for encephyloviruses because surely, something must be wrong in their brains.
As someone that used to work with sensitive information, she absolutely did violate multiple federal laws by storing classified information on a non-government server. That alone is enough to have your security clearance revoked.
Then you know that mishandling classified material is like speeding. Everyone does it. It's almost impossible not to.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
#23662929 - 09/20/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Then why are they hating on Snowden so hard?
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
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PartoftheSource said: Then why are they hating on Snowden so hard?
Lol. He stole classified material and gave it to the media. was that a serious question?
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23663613 - 09/20/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@koods Speeding is in no way, shape or form similar to the handling of classified information.
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The point of the petition isn't to enact change, it is to bring to light the crimes of Hillary Clinton. This election is going to be razor thin, I really fucking hate clinton and anything I can do to hurt her campaign is a win in my book. The petition is just a small component of a larger project I'm working on to publicly undermine her character.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: koods]
#23663620 - 09/20/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So... "mishandling" classified material is more acceptable then appropriating classified material and handling it over to the media?
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23663675 - 09/20/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Yeah....that's really gonna go far. Even with several million signatures...she did not break the law....at least according to the FBI.
Actually she did break the law...even according to the FBI. Comey said so himself, so I'm not sure why you're arguing otherwise (though I have my suspicions )
And James Comey ignored the part in 18 U.S. Code § 793 where it says this...
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(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both
So not only did Comey ignore the fact that the law implies that criminal intent is not necessary for a violation to have occurred, he also went on to call her actions "extremely careless", instead of "grossly negligent", a synonymous description meaning exactly the same thing.
You don't have to be a lawyer to be able to comprehend the fact that he said she was guilty but in this particular instance he wouldn't recommend charges. If you're someone who still actually believes that non-guilt is the reason she was let off the hook...then you're clearly not paying attention and you're wayyyyyyy behind on the news cycle.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: Great Scott]
#23663682 - 09/20/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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And that's even at a minimum of what she is truly guilty of. Best case scenario for her should have been a heavy fine and disqualification from holding public office.
Any yet here we are...and there she is... running for President.
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Re: Petition to prosecute hillary clinton [Re: falsereality]
#23663747 - 09/20/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: where have any of these petitions on Tardbama's website gone
The point of the petition isn't to enact change, it is to bring to light the crimes of Hillary Clinton.
are you saying hillary is a criminal and people dont know?
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