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Need help identifying doggie danger
    #23654607 - 09/18/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hello Folks :smile:
I am a newbie in every way possible both in the picking and consuming wild Alberta mushrooms either regular kind or the funky ones. Honestly I tried the funky ones twice but such a very low dose it didn't do anything so I cant even claim to have experience there. However a few recent incidents has had me researching for a week steady. I hope here I am able to get the answers I need as I keep running into the issue of "no one tells you anything cause its illegal" lol. I don't have those connections what can I say.....
anyhow here's the scoop...
I am going to say now however that I am open to trying the ones that are identified!!

I am a breeder and exhibitor of Belgian Malinois and Peruvian Paso's, I live on a farm about an hour north of Edmonton, AB. I had just gotten one of my puppies (now a year old) to come and stay a while, I let her out for a quick 10 minutes for a pee, she came back. All was well for about an hour, I noticed she started getting wobbly and falling over. AT that point crazy things like distemper were cruising through my mind so I got the vet on the phone (after hours of course $$) but she didn't seemed near as alarmed as me. She told me to induce vomiting to see what she had eaten. So I did, I wont get into to much detail but I assure you no lumpy stuff, only brown goo. Other wise know as horse poop.
I am sure to expert shroomers you can see where this is going, but to the person like me that has almost no experience with mushrooms other then store bought, I HAD NO CLUE??? Anyway she then asked if I had any ..you know.. funny mushrooms around, I said of course said no, and that was the end of that.. I thought. I know for a fact I had no shrooms in this place so I assumed she got simply drunk on something, it is a farm so you never know. She slept it off and was fine the next day.
I still had to try and track down why she was drunk!! and what she could have possible got drunk on?? never did find anything so wrote it of as an isolated incident. About two weeks later another one of my females had the exact same symptoms but this time she was throwing up all by herself so I didn't have to induce anything lol. Again nothing but brown goo.. She slept it off and was also fine the next day. So this time I searched a little harder. Still came up with nothing!! One week later my third female showed up drunk!! Brown goo again, I'm still baffled?? I'm thinking fermenting horse poop??
I know, I know seems obvious I know. In my defence, this has been the wettest coldest summer I think I've ever experienced and I have never seen so many mushrooms in my life! As a matter of fact that's what clued me in one day,(to bad not a month ago). About a week ago, these huge fluffy fuzzy type mushrooms showed up in the yard. There were so many. Ive never seen them before.. ever.. like in my life even! And some were big like dinner plates!! So got online and two days later I had a positive ID "Shaggy Parasols" mmmmmm they were yummy after I trying like three different recipes. I was a convert on the spot, wanted to find out what else we had on the property that was edible, I mean this ID thing has got to get easier right?? lol uhhh huh!! pfffft...
Anyhow went shroom hunting to discover I had amanita guessowii (now identified) And discovered it has pretty unique qualities, then also discovered Porcini sp.leccinum. I was just looking for big ones. Then it dawned on me FUNKY SHROOMS!! My DOGS ARE GETTING WASTED ON SHROOMS!!I ran across several different species of mushrooms, and so many now I have completely lost count of how many I have doing spore prints even!! So I started researching, and researching, and researching. And wow I'm very lost, once I start think I know something about IDing wow I just don't. There is just so much to learn. I will never learn on time to keep my dogs from getting stoned and hopefully not ODing. I have heard the the guessowii species are attractive to animals so that's my biggest guess HOWEVER that s a pretty big mushroom and one of the three dogs is an extremely fussy eater, I never saw any signs of mushroom lumps, so with those factors in mind and the HUGE factor that they all LOVE horse poop leads me to believe I have funky mushrooms in my horses poop :smile:

So started checking what kind of shroomies grow in my region, I am gob struck, I swear I have all the one described. I have probably picked at least 20 different species of mushrooms on this little 80 acres. Where do I begin. Is there a way  can have an experienced person come and id some of these for me?? Or should I just start posting pics? Or how do I get through all the different little brown ones!! yesh!!   

Habitat:
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.

Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.

Spore print color:
Very important!

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.

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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: DogsAreWasted]
    #23654800 - 09/18/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Picture+spore print is (quite literally) a thousand words


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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: DogsAreWasted]
    #23657554 - 09/19/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That was a handful to read. Photos of the suspected mushrooms would be needed for a proper identification. but if I had to guess, the culprit would be A. Guessowii. it commonly induces vomiting, probably especially small dogs.


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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: DogsAreWasted]
    #23658122 - 09/19/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Could be a number of things, but if they're throwing up poo, then perhaps that's the culprit which makes sense.  Maybe the poop is old they're eating, I have no experience with dogs eating horse dung.  I worked on a farm for a bit, farm had horses, cattle, llamas, assorted birds, and a fucking camel!

Anyway, I never saw any of the many pooches eat poop, so that's new to me.  Amanita muscaria var. guessowii will cause drunkenness in humans, so don't know what it would do to dogs.

Is there anyway you can monitor your dogs a little bit more closely when they're outside?


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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: Lucis]
    #23661692 - 09/20/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Suspect number one
Pearly white cap with a very slight tinge of purple, the pearling rubs off if wiped or touched, black spore print, bruises deep, deep purple or black. Consistent in coniferous trees and horse poop. 


please ignore the other little shroomys in spore print photo, I will get to those later

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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: DogsAreWasted]
    #23661699 - 09/20/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and stem doesn't bruise and is shinny

Edited by DogsAreWasted (09/20/16 01:12 PM)

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Re: Need help identifying doggie danger [Re: DogsAreWasted]
    #23661750 - 09/20/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

compare it to something like Coprinopsis atramentaria, maybe.

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