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Bodhi of Ankou
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DinduNuffin said: @asante,
oh indeed sir, you see!! it is not humans that are inherently greedy, it is culture. now we are getting to it!!
One could argue that anything a human does is inherently human.
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Jokeshopbeard
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Burke Dennings said: Not trying to be contrarian or anything, but moreso here than any other site, the above has been my experience. I can't even begin to list all the amazing ways people here have helped me out. Like, it's innumerable. Maybe even illimitable. And I try to do what I can to help out others here. I think most of us are like that. 
That's fucking heartwarming man.
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demiu5
humans, lol


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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Asante]
#23659204 - 09/19/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Crab mentality, sometimes referred to as crabs in the bucket (also barrel, basket or pot), is a way of thinking best described by the phrase, "if I can't have it, neither can you."[1] The metaphor refers to a bucket of crabs. Individually, the crabs could easily escape from the bucket, but instead they grab at each other in a useless "king of the hill" competition which prevents any from escaping and ensures their collective demise.[2][3][4][5] The analogy in human behavior is claimed to be that members of a group will attempt to negate or diminish the importance of any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, to halt their progress.[6][7][8][9][10]
Its a big problem throughout life, and an integral part of the competitive mindset.
The Pub, and indeed the world, is being mostly held down by this, people competing instead of synergizing.
We can lift each other up using our collective strengths, we, as, all of us, as One. There is no telling what we could do as a group if we United on a deeper level, be it PLUR, Shroomery Island or serious business.
Crab mentality.
Discuss synergistically.
other than helping one off a stool or to/from a loo, how often do you see people helping each other in pubs?
maybe the pub should be renamed, and all posting while intoxicated should be a bannable offense
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LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: demiu5]
#23659227 - 09/19/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive had mixed experiences with both helpful shroomerites and unhelpful a-holes. A blend of each.
Cultivation is a good place to start. People can be very helpful or bring u down for not knowing something cause u got 15,000 posts or for posting old info and using that and not realizing its outdated info.
In a perfect world, our community would be positive to everyone, for every situation. Sadly, its a mix.
But i will say, for the most part, members are friendly and helpful with no desire of recipication. But there will always be trolls and shitposters. Always....
The duality of man, just like junkie cop.
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Asante
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Burke Dennings said: Quote from Asante in this thread:
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Imagine a Shroomery with more group cohesion. A Shroomery like an awesome fraternaty or better: an Illuminati of its own. Need info, need help, need a job, a room to crash in a strange town, fun drug friendly roommates to share rent with, a bit of cash - interest free - to tide you over? Come to the Organization. we will set you up...
Not trying to be contrarian or anything, but moreso here than any other site, the above has been my experience. I can't even begin to list all the amazing ways people here have helped me out. Like, it's innumerable. Maybe even illimitable. And I try to do what I can to help out others here. I think most of us are like that. 
Not contrarian at all, we already have that to a higher degree compared to many other communities, but what if we went even stronger on that?
We're a very good comunity and I'm proud to be allowed to serve it as an admin, I just look for angles to make a great site even better. We have every website feature known to science and Ythan moved the goalposts to expand that many times.
Its in the community sense we can expand more.
Take Larrythescaryrex' initiative. Isnt that absolutely heartwarming? And there is so much more to it.
We admins hate to be Nazis, so we don't want to force change top-down but if we can we like to promote grassroots initiatives, like Larry's.
This community can give itself momentum.
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Repertoire89
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Asante]
#23660493 - 09/20/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Crab mentality, sometimes referred to as crabs in the bucket (also barrel, basket or pot), is a way of thinking best described by the phrase, "if I can't have it, neither can you."[1] The metaphor refers to a bucket of crabs. Individually, the crabs could easily escape from the bucket, but instead they grab at each other in a useless "king of the hill" competition which prevents any from escaping and ensures their collective demise.[2][3][4][5] The analogy in human behavior is claimed to be that members of a group will attempt to negate or diminish the importance of any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, to halt their progress.[6][7][8][9][10]
Its a big problem throughout life, and an integral part of the competitive mindset.
The Pub, and indeed the world, is being mostly held down by this, people competing instead of synergizing.
We can lift each other up using our collective strengths, we, as, all of us, as One. There is no telling what we could do as a group if we United on a deeper level, be it PLUR, Shroomery Island or serious business.
Crab mentality.
Discuss synergistically.
I'd say this is pretty prevalent, but nothing important really goes on in the shroomery so I never notice it here.
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akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23660515 - 09/20/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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the shroomery is great. the more i feel it slip to the denizens of the far-reaching anti *insert ideology here* crowds of users, the more that greatness turns to repulsion. i guess i always thought of the Shroomery as somewhat "special" and different from the likes of youtube and the rest of the overly opinionated shit on the internet. but it's not. the only thing worth coming here for is A: the people (whom aren't entrenched in ideological arguments constantly, ruining the pub, for sure) and B: the fact that this website caters to a wide variety of things, and also, is operated smoothly, with the exception of handling ideologues whom simply create problems for the website (they are given free-reign, which is fine. i don't care if they turn the shroomery into a free-for-all. i guess it's one of the downfalls of being such an open environment. still, a bit off.)
i guess that would kind of make me an ideologue, but meh, i don't go on about it. i don't make "shroomery sucks now" threads, but only because it's only half-true. so my bullshit is kept on lock, as far as i'm concerned. that, and i might reply to bullshit, usually with more bullshit, but that's because arguing for or against ideological bullshit bigotry and the non-acceptance of people's various (and mostly uninformed) opinions (as per the definition of opinion) is stupid. and i'm an idiot.
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23660638 - 09/20/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't feel like associating with people when I have something to loose, been burned too many times and it makes me cautious and paranoid.
But if your community plan works you'll get a thumbs up from me. At least what you post is of value. The main problem is (or what it feels like to me, just from skimming over post titles) is there's lots of fuckups who do lots of drugs. Which is fine. I'm a fuckup who (in my own estimation) does a little bit of drugs.
It's not a complaint, it's an observation. Probably a lot of suffering and soul searching, I remember that used to be important to me, whearas now my only priority is comfort.
You know what I'd like to do? Voice overs. I have a decent microphone (zoom h2n), I speak received pronunciation as well as a host of accents from the British Isles which is a hobby of mine, and French. Alas, I never spent enough time in Belgium and France to pick up the nuances of their accents but I'd like to.
So, if anyone wants voiceovers and can sort me out with some goodies for my efforts, or if the project sounds like fun, ask.
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Asante] 1
#23660840 - 09/20/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think a little less alpha competitiveness and a little more beta, social affiliative cooperation would go a long ways towards making this site a better place to coexist.
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Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!


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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Asante]
#23661060 - 09/20/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Crab mentality, sometimes referred to as crabs in the bucket (also barrel, basket or pot), is a way of thinking best described by the phrase, "if I can't have it, neither can you."[1] The metaphor refers to a bucket of crabs. Individually, the crabs could easily escape from the bucket, but instead they grab at each other in a useless "king of the hill" competition which prevents any from escaping and ensures their collective demise.[2][3][4][5] The analogy in human behavior is claimed to be that members of a group will attempt to negate or diminish the importance of any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, to halt their progress.[6][7][8][9][10]
Its a big problem throughout life, and an integral part of the competitive mindset.
The Pub, and indeed the world, is being mostly held down by this, people competing instead of synergizing.
We can lift each other up using our collective strengths, we, as, all of us, as One. There is no telling what we could do as a group if we United on a deeper level, be it PLUR, Shroomery Island or serious business.
Crab mentality.
Discuss synergistically.
what you describe is the mentality of liberals, it's truly expressed it's self over the last several years with the '99%' horse shit, the 'share the wealth' mantra and all the other anti capitalist crap in addition to other things
enjoy the crabbiness
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akira_akuma
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23661064 - 09/20/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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people never would have gotten there if it wasn't a political farce every goddamn election.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23661069 - 09/20/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: people never would have gotten there if it wasn't a political farce every goddamn election.
RACIST!
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akira_akuma
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23661076 - 09/20/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i advocate for destroying all races, so i can't be a racist. just misanthropic. i win.
PS: and note, i didn't exclude Obama.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23661172 - 09/20/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was just pretending to be a liberal and treating you like they do anyone that doesnt suck their dick
want to stop being a racist, suck my dick you misogynist
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akira_akuma
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23661297 - 09/20/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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don't test me i'm
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millzy


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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#23661344 - 09/20/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think most of it has to do with the main demographic this board serves. 20-40 is an age where you have something to prove. it's the time to be hyper-individualistic while you lay the foundation of a life for yourself. but that necessarily fierce spirit of competition and selfishness breeds bad habits that only experience, namely inevitable failure and tragedy, can remedy. we're all at different points on that trajectory; i'm certainly no exception. so when i look at people here who haven't really figured out how to connect with their fellow person, i mostly just chalk it up to age, or maybe just low self esteem. the true cunts here are few and far between and quite easily ignored. i can't even name anyone off the top of my head of who i'd have in mind that belongs in that category. most of the less pleasant posters are just ignorant, and again, that's appropriate given the age range of most posters here. i think most of our posters want to do the right thing most of the time.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: millzy]
#23661481 - 09/20/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's pretty cogent, millzy.
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Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#23661502 - 09/20/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Millzy always drops bombs like that, I love it.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23661528 - 09/20/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have a feeling a lot of bullshit can merely be chalked up to psychology. Millzy has taken a psychology course, for sure; right @Millzy?
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memes
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Re: Crab Mentality and a Shroomery that efficiently takes care of its own. [Re: Asante]
#23661838 - 09/20/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Crab mentality, sometimes referred to as crabs in the bucket (also barrel, basket or pot), is a way of thinking best described by the phrase, "if I can't have it, neither can you."[1] The metaphor refers to a bucket of crabs. Individually, the crabs could easily escape from the bucket, but instead they grab at each other in a useless "king of the hill" competition which prevents any from escaping and ensures their collective demise.[2][3][4][5] The analogy in human behavior is claimed to be that members of a group will attempt to negate or diminish the importance of any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, to halt their progress.[6][7][8][9][10]
Its a big problem throughout life, and an integral part of the competitive mindset.
The Pub, and indeed the world, is being mostly held down by this, people competing instead of synergizing.
We can lift each other up using our collective strengths, we, as, all of us, as One. There is no telling what we could do as a group if we United on a deeper level, be it PLUR, Shroomery Island or serious business.
Crab mentality.
Discuss synergistically.
Tall Poppy Syndrome
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