Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12  [ show all ]
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Dakota pipline protest * 1
    #23661294 - 09/20/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Easy resolution unlikely for contentious Dakota pipeline

G4S security service guards sprayed protesters with pepper spray and let their attack dogs bite protesters in response to native american protests.

Are you for or against the pipline in regards to the well being of American nature and peoples?

FIGHT!


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23662875 - 09/20/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Neutral on the pipeline, but not on Indian lands.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBrian Jones
Club 27
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/18/12
Posts: 12,418
Loc: attending Snake Church
Last seen: 1 hour, 51 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #23664096 - 09/21/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

IDK; How advantageous would it be? I know this wont go on forever, but right now U.S. and Canada can't even sell their oil. Completely bizzare since 5 years ago we were still "dependant on foreign oil" and that's why we had to do all this bullshit and wars and terrorism regarding the Middle East. I don't think we were dependent on foreign oil; we were dependent on oil companies.

    Whatever the case I don't think we should fuck over the Indians again.


--------------------
"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

The worst thing about corruption is that it works so well,

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #23664172 - 09/21/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I see tip is still getting his news from the most leftist, and retarded, news sources out there.

The pipeline is NOT on "Indian land" that's your first lie

The protestors attacked the dogs with sticks, fuck them. The only ones bitten were attacking the dogs, and they deserved it. so thats your second lie

The workers are doing their job, no, these fucking idiotic protestors have no right to attack them.

All permits and rights of easement were obtained, they shouldn't even be protesting the pipeline company, they should be protesting the govt who gave them the permits to build it.


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEzuma
Gontish Wizard
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/02/13
Posts: 8,423
Loc: Roke
Last seen: 1 year, 25 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23664446 - 09/21/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
I see tip is still getting his news from the most leftist, and retarded, news sources out there.

The pipeline is NOT on "Indian land" that's your first lie

The protestors attacked the dogs with sticks, fuck them. The only ones bitten were attacking the dogs, and they deserved it. so thats your second lie

The workers are doing their job, no, these fucking idiotic protestors have no right to attack them.

All permits and rights of easement were obtained, they shouldn't even be protesting the pipeline company, they should be protesting the govt who gave them the permits to build it.




source(s)?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Ezuma]
    #23664893 - 09/21/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you really think this company just started trenching without govt approval? :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEzuma
Gontish Wizard
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/02/13
Posts: 8,423
Loc: Roke
Last seen: 1 year, 25 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23665335 - 09/21/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
you really think this company just started trenching without govt approval? :lol:




of course not the gov is the problem, or more accurately, the problem is the gov represents the interests of corporations and not humanity

the whole idea of a protest is to challenge a decision made by the government generally

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSkellies


Registered: 06/02/15
Posts: 823
Loc: The Dream
Last seen: 10 hours, 34 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Ezuma]
    #23666042 - 09/21/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If the pipeline is being built on treaty lands then I wouldn't support that. If it isn't than I would approve. Either way the the oil is being transported through the US either by train or pipeline. The former is a lot more dangerous than the latter.


--------------------
Nosleep mode: Activated

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Ezuma]
    #23667219 - 09/22/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Ezuma said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
you really think this company just started trenching without govt approval? :lol:




of course not the gov is the problem, or more accurately, the problem is the gov represents the interests of corporations and not humanity

the whole idea of a protest is to challenge a decision made by the government generally




So attacking private workers is "challenging the government"?


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinestarfire_xes
I Am 'They'
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/24/09
Posts: 21,590
Loc: Dallas with all the assho...
Last seen: 8 months, 30 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23671839 - 09/23/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
Quote:

Ezuma said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
you really think this company just started trenching without govt approval? :lol:




of course not the gov is the problem, or more accurately, the problem is the gov represents the interests of corporations and not humanity

the whole idea of a protest is to challenge a decision made by the government generally




So attacking private workers is "challenging the government"?




Goddamit.  They need to shut down the pipeline, so Warren Buffets trains can make a lot more money shipping that oil. :awedisgust:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23671976 - 09/23/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ultra wealthy progressives use wishy washy liberal agendas and the peons that follow them to get their way, and most liberals are too fucking stupid to realize when they're being played :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Skellies]
    #23676539 - 09/25/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

austothehun said:
If the pipeline is being built on treaty lands then I wouldn't support that. If it isn't than I would approve. Either way the the oil is being transported through the US either by train or pipeline. The former is a lot more dangerous than the latter.




I believe that section of the pipeline is not on reservation land but the point is that due to its position near a few rivers, if there was a problem with oil leaks, it affects far beyond the land on which the pipeline is built. It doesnt matter than the pipeline is not directly on reserve land, any accidents affect the entire regions water supply as a whole. Native Americans are protesting to protect long term access to clean water supply.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23678940 - 09/26/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Meanwhile, back in the real world, we have thousands of miles of pipeline running in this country, and somehow, we are all not dead:shrug:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23736125 - 10/14/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:


Meanwhile, back in the real world, we have thousands of miles of pipeline running in this country, and somehow, we are all not dead:shrug:




I'm not sure how you deduced that the concern is that everyone in N Dakota would die from a burst oil pipeline..

but people do die from pipeline accidents. The primary concern is that if a pipeline leaks/burst then the entire area's water supply is affected, as are all the people who drink water. Even small leaks can cause a lot of damage to the environment and to peoples livelihoods. The position of this pipeline would mean that leaks would affect a wide area through river networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents#United_States


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23736129 - 10/14/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23770772 - 10/25/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hundreds of arrests these past couple days. Supposedly they've run out of jail space and are busing people several hours to neighboring states to process and hold them. How is this thing going to end?


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23772543 - 10/26/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Crumist said:
How is this thing going to end?




With military occupation of the pipeline route.

People have said they wont stop no matter what. I imagine the powers that be will encourage protestors turning to more violent methods of resistance in order to justify a smashing of protestors.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23774212 - 10/26/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well yeah, I'd consider that is probably the worst possible outcome. I hope it doesn't come to that.

With this and the incarcerated workers strike, the leftists are just as hot and bothered as the right extremists are at the election.


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #23778345 - 10/27/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

National guard has been mobilized. They is marchin' https://www.facebook.com/esha.hoferer/videos/259442404452591/

EDIT: If you want to pretend like you care, call your congressman or something... jesus, this is fucked up


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Edited by Crumist (10/27/16 08:51 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23781211 - 10/28/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineWeAreMushroom
Ask Me About Bigfoot
Male


Registered: 11/10/14
Posts: 1,405
Loc: Frying Like An Eagle
Last seen: 5 years, 11 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #23781272 - 10/28/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is among one of the many reasons we have to pay so much money for sacred peyote and have to fight to conserve the species. The native people of America and their traditions should be protected just like the people of other countries and nationalities. :shrug:


It's awful that there's so much coverage of this happening but nobody is doing anything about it. It's like some Cherokee Trail of Tears shit.

:nojustno:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline5150
phantom
 User Gallery
Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 5,437
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23782804 - 10/29/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The gov will just arrest everyone,ppl need to use
That special amendment that is written in constitution,if u can pick up what im putting down


--------------------
"the way of the warrior is the resolute acceptance of death"

Miyamoto Musashi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEywa_devotee
Goddess Worshiper
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 1,088
Loc: State of Confusion, Arkan... Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: 5150]
    #23784192 - 10/29/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's clear the US Contitution no longer means anything, you don't own anything, and who so ever has the biggest gun is the one in charge. You have the right to do what they say and if not feel free to die in prison. It's pretty sad that they circumvented the right to meaningful protest by simply abusing trespassing laws. Of course if they mowed down everyone they'd get away with it. How bad does it have to get for anyone to get pissed enough to actually fight for liberty and freedom? What has to happen to get people to wake the f**k up?


--------------------
"Love one another." "To Love is to know me." "Love is the Law, Love under Will." "In Compassion, all sorrows end." Regardless of the Master, the message is the same- Choose love and you shall live, Choose Fear and you shall die. Help bring peace to this Earth: Love one another, and serve others before yourself.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline5150
phantom
 User Gallery
Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 5,437
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23785555 - 10/30/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Alot of it is the gov. Has flooded the usa with so
many immigrants,keeps everyone divided fighting
Like rats


--------------------
"the way of the warrior is the resolute acceptance of death"

Miyamoto Musashi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineConnoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 4 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: 5150]
    #23785840 - 10/30/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23787622 - 10/31/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLittleDaddy
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 1,072
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23790209 - 11/01/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pipeline is going under the Missouri directly affecting native water supply when it bursts. Pipeline bursts happen twice a day, about 7  billion in damages since 1995 and the DOT acknowledges that the research is biased in favor of the oil companies because they are the ones reporting the incidents. We need to stop using fossil fuels and allowing these companies to expand their reach is in direct opposition to that.


--------------------
The hotter the battle, the sweeter Jah victory.
Put the heathen's back upon the wall.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23792232 - 11/01/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Civil unrest porn


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23794882 - 11/02/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineChristopherABrown
Human being
Male

Registered: 07/22/16
Posts: 330
Loc: Santa Barbara California Flag
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23796210 - 11/02/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LittleDaddy said:
Pipeline is going under the Missouri directly affecting native water supply when it bursts. Pipeline bursts happen twice a day, about 7  billion in damages since 1995 and the DOT acknowledges that the research is biased in favor of the oil companies because they are the ones reporting the incidents. We need to stop using fossil fuels and allowing these companies to expand their reach is in direct opposition to that.




Well stated in all regards.

Unfortunately Americans will need to think out of the box to get it done and they are not good at that.

Even when it comes to common knowledge most Anericans in this environment where it could be most effective are afraid to leave the flock.

We have a right to alter or abolish governments destructive to unalienable rights and the collusion between it and corporations is going to destroy vital elements.  Having those pristine and good for supporting life is an unalienable right.

If enough Americans agree upon that America can leave fossil fuels.

Edited by ChristopherABrown (11/02/16 10:58 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineChristopherABrown
Human being
Male

Registered: 07/22/16
Posts: 330
Loc: Santa Barbara California Flag
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23796246 - 11/02/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mitsubishi Eclipse said:
This shit is so fucked. While I am surprised and happy to see that this conflict is actually being reported on (albeit barely) and that 90% of commenters seem to be on the side of the tribes, there doesn't seem to be any sort of actual action being taken place in favor of the tribes. To be honest I really wish I could go out there right now and support them, but hell, I have a job, and I live over a thousand miles away, I'd have to give up my entire life and my plans in order to do so. And lets be honest, right now the only thing going up there to help is going to do is add one more body to the "lets be peaceful and get maced and arrested" crowd.

That said, if shots do go off... It's no doubt going to incite a lot of native/part-native/native-supporters to travel over to Standing Rock. I mean if this problem isn't resolved in a peaceful way soon, and if the tribes aren't met at least halfway by the government and the corporations there is likely going to be an escalation of violence, possibly leading to all out armed conflict similar to what happened at Wounded Knee in 1973; potentially even escalating into all out rebellion of the native tribes here in America...

We live in crazy times people. Let's pray that justice returns to the land one day.




We are "the rightful masters of the congress and the court", if we agree upon prime constitutional intent.  First we must end the abridging of the purpose of free speech.  Then ordinary Americans coukd know the truth about this catastrophe about to happen the Native are trying to stop.

We have a right to 
alter or abolish and it is gms to use it.


--------------------
You always want what you need, but do not always need what you want.

People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23805568 - 11/06/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDark_Star
train driver pervading a desktop
Male User Gallery

Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 31,859
Loc: Uranus
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 3
    #23805598 - 11/06/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Over a billion dollars has already been spent. They're not giving in no matter how many people protest. Sucks.....first we come in & slaughter countless natives, then we shuttle them to shitty land for "reservations" "hey guize, you can this", and now we can't even concede to build the pipeline in a way that doesn't impact their sacred places & water supply? Fucking disgraceful. :thumbdown:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23805801 - 11/06/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

FYI, this map of the area is worth checking out!!

this struggle shows the connections that can be made with all the other groups with similar struggles.

Palestine solidarity activists and black lives matter activists are rightly showing solidarity to a universal struggle.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Edited by Tipote (11/06/16 09:14 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23808654 - 11/07/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23853494 - 11/21/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23857531 - 11/22/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I say the pipeline is going to go through. That's good. Pipelines are much safer than shipping crude via truck or train. There's 8 fuel transporting pipelines across the river already. There's a rail bridge crossing like a mile from their NEW water intake that is probably going to be used starting this year.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23857562 - 11/22/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

or we could just move away from fossil fuels..

Both sides are determined and won't give up. You can't say for certain that the pipeline will be completed in those areas.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23857680 - 11/22/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No-one can say for certain yet, right. But this is not a protest against a pipeline as has been asserted - it's a protest against fossil fuel. How many protesters didn't use oil getting there or for their winter gear?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23858114 - 11/22/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

eeso said:
this is not a protest against a pipeline as has been asserted - it's a protest against fossil fuel.



Are you sure about that?  I've received a ton of emails on this and it's all been about the pipeline.  :shrug:


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineConnoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 4 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23859057 - 11/22/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

photos of the water canons made front page NYT today...

i decided to buy a copy

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineConnoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 4 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23859076 - 11/22/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 1
    #23860239 - 11/23/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

eeso said:
this is not a protest against a pipeline as has been asserted - it's a protest against fossil fuel.



Can you back this up with anything? Sure, people make it about the larger global issue of fossil fuel consumption and global climate change.. thats understandable... but the protest is definitely over the pipeline, otherwise why would it be in North Dakota?

Quote:

How many protesters didn't use oil getting there or for their winter gear?




:facepalm:Really?? Our entire societies are dependent on fossil fuels yet you pick on some environmental activists who may or may not use some hydrocarbons for fuel instead of the massive corporations exploiting our land and our future.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23860281 - 11/23/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860312 - 11/23/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23860313 - 11/23/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23860316 - 11/23/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
So she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.




she shouldnt have been at a peaceful demonstration?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860328 - 11/23/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She'd be healthy if she hadn't.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 4
    #23860585 - 11/23/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya heard it here first, folks. Shut the fuck up and obey or it's gonna cost your extremities/life


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23860693 - 11/23/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I find it impossible to feel bad for protesters who are harmed while blocking roadways, bridges, sidewalks, entrances, etc..


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23860860 - 11/23/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like you have basic problems with empathy.

these people are staying on the land, demonstrating peacefully, making music and praying. Does that stop you from getting from A to B? Is their existence an inconvenience for you? Their actions do not justify the treatment they have dealt with.

Would you be concerned if a pipeline was going through your area putting your water sources, and the water sources of millions, at risk?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860881 - 11/23/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have plenty of empathy, just not for inconsiderate assholes.

It's not the protesting that's the issue, it's assholes that impede others.

Quote:

The Sunday night clash began after the Standing Rock Sioux and their allies tried to remove barriers authorities had used to block access to Backwater Bridge, the Indigenous Environmental Network’s Dallas Goldtooth told The Associated Press.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/standing-rock-arm-amputation_us_5834853ee4b09b6055ff01ec

How does one 'stay on the land' while trying to remove barriers on the road/bridge?


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23861112 - 11/23/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They weren't impeding anyone like you said, they were trying to take down barriers. You should be singing their praises.  Anyone seen the pic of the chick's arm? It's pretty gnarly


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23861132 - 11/23/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trying to take down barriers on the road you said they weren't on? Or even if they were right next to the road... she brought her misery upon herself.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23861235 - 11/23/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I find it impossible to feel bad for protesters who are harmed while blocking roadways, bridges, sidewalks, entrances, etc..




I'll remind you of that one day when you do.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23861248 - 11/23/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You'll be waiting a long, long time.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23861682 - 11/23/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I a VERY patient person.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23861725 - 11/23/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If the protestors were peaceful, they wouldn't be harmed in any way.



Local news will always be the most accurate report on what's really happening



--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23862993 - 11/24/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I have plenty of empathy, just not for inconsiderate assholes.

It's not the protesting that's the issue, it's assholes that impede others.

Quote:

The Sunday night clash began after the Standing Rock Sioux and their allies tried to remove barriers authorities had used to block access to Backwater Bridge, the Indigenous Environmental Network’s Dallas Goldtooth told The Associated Press.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/standing-rock-arm-amputation_us_5834853ee4b09b6055ff01ec

How does one 'stay on the land' while trying to remove barriers on the road/bridge?



the barriers on the bridge (on tribal land) were put their by authorities to prevent peaceful gathering and it prevented ambulance access while numerous people were suffering all kinds of injuries. :facepalm: A 21 year old may have lost her arm and i'm sure the extra hours she had to wait for treatment made a difference. Were attempts to remove the barrier impeding anyone except solidarity activists???

Who are they inconveniencing? Energy Transfer? Private security? Militarised police? Donald Drumpf?
The authorities are impeding the right to protest, how are you struggling with this?

They are peacefully trying to make their message heard. There is a very legitimate cause here, I noticed you ignored my question about what you would do in their situation?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23863208 - 11/24/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In their situation I'd keep my hands off the barriers. Should be no problem for her now.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23863859 - 11/24/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:jokerclap:


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23864396 - 11/24/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So you never felt passionate enough to stand up against the law and express yourself? That why this country is in the sad shape its in.

PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Just let me pound out my objections/opinions on the Internets, but I don't want to get involved.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinestarfire_xes
I Am 'They'
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/24/09
Posts: 21,590
Loc: Dallas with all the assho...
Last seen: 8 months, 30 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23865314 - 11/25/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I'm all broken up about the Dakota Pipeline.  Too bad the US is going to look like a pin-cushion are the drilling starts when Trump gets into office.  So fuck the pipeline.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23865368 - 11/25/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
So you never felt passionate enough to stand up against the law and express yourself? That why this country is in the sad shape its in.

PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Just let me pound out my objections/opinions on the Internets, but I don't want to get involved.




Actually, I have. I was just able to act like an adult when I did so. I didn't block traffic. I didn't damage property.

One can intelligently protest and persuade... or one can unintelligently protest and repel.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23865500 - 11/25/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One can if one is protesting adults and militarized thugs.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23865514 - 11/25/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And one can get their arm destroyed.

Frankly, one would be wise when protesting 'militarized thugs', to not do something stupid enough to draw a reaction from the militarized thugs.

Protest away, but do it legally and safely.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23865571 - 11/25/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
And one can get their arm destroyed.

Frankly, one would be wise when protesting 'militarized thugs', to not do something stupid enough to draw a reaction from the militarized thugs.

Protest away, but do it legally and safely.




Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

The fact  is these dumbfucks are not just fighting "corporations and milititarised police" they are also fighting a mojority of peaceful local people as well, the citizens held many votes and meetings and approved the pipeline.

***but just like the election, whiney bitchy liberal fucks wanna throw a fit because something didn't go their way


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23865590 - 11/25/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So you just let the thugs do whatever they want?

NO FUCKING WAY!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23865600 - 11/25/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
So you just let the thugs do whatever they want?

NO FUCKING WAY!




Nope, the police are certainly cracking down on them thugs :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23865652 - 11/25/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's good to know, so when we come for your guns you'll just roll over.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23865807 - 11/25/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Surely even you must understand the difference between reacting to unruly protesters by a bridge and the government coming to your home or place of business to round up our guns.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23865867 - 11/25/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Selma Alabama!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23865890 - 11/25/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So which is it? You do know the difference or you don't?


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23865903 - 11/25/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya people fighting for their rights.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23865970 - 11/25/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It appears we can put you in the 'doesn't know the difference column'.

People not wanting a pipeline near them ≠ fighting for their rights.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23866097 - 11/25/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People not wanting a pipeline FORCED across their Reservation does = civil rights

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23866538 - 11/25/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The pipeline isn't on the reservation.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23867319 - 11/25/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
People not wanting a pipeline FORCED across their Reservation does = civil rights




It's not on their reservation, please educate yourself

In other news, their days are numbered! The federal govt is stepping in to SHUT THESE DUMBASSES DOWN!

Quote:

Today we were notified by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that on Dec. 5th, they will close all lands north of the Cannonball River, which is where the Oceti Sakowin camp is located.




He goes on to beg people to beg Obama to "please do something! Wah wah wah!"


http://www.myndnow.com/news/bismarck-news/statement-from-chairman-archambault-on-army-corps-decision

***Looks like the American people have won again!:cookiemonster:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23870643 - 11/26/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:Looks like the American people have won again!:cookiemonster:




You spelled "international oil-banking consortiums" wrong.

Hurrah! The state wrought vicious violence upon a people for the sake of the globalists, hurrah!


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23870653 - 11/26/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Crumist said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:Looks like the American people have won again!:cookiemonster:




You spelled "international oil-banking consortiums" wrong.

Hurrah! The state wrought vicious violence upon a people for the sake of the globalists, hurrah!




BS, the police have enforced the law and protected citizens by not letting terrorists run roughshod over their state


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23870698 - 11/26/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


HU, you were asking about discrimination about American Indians somewhere. First of all, the obvious treaty-breaking, lying, conquering, human-experimentation, raping, genociding of the past is the gigantic elephant in the room, but for some reason, I'm guessing your going to say "But I didn't do anything like that, and I've never benefited from the same. My Indian friend says I'm cool." You're would be wrong, but for the sake of argument, lets skip all that. Lets go to the part where Indian women continue to get raped at 10x the average and the reservation law enforcement have 0 authority to investigate and get 0 co-operation from US law enforcement. Or to ten thousand other things, the least of which being national sports teams named after slurs for indians. Similar to how there used to be several teams called "the niggers" w/sambo mascot and all.

You mentioned getting turned down for a job because you weren't Indian. Yes, that is clearly discrimination and that sucks. And if you wanted, you might be able to get together with a lawyer and see if you have grounds to sue, depending on a lot of different factors. Your chances don't sound great, but I wouldn't know. Also, Several of my white friends back in high school worked part time on the nearest reservation and I know of two that now live there.

Terrorists?!? How are they terrorists? You are kind of freaking me out with the way you bandy that word about. The protesters haven't bombed anything or come anywhere close to the level of violence the state has brought to bear. It is actually kind of incredible how it doesn't appear your run of the mill anarchists haven't shown up with bats or to throw molotov cocktails yet.

Please point out the "terrorists" in the photos below.





--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23870736 - 11/26/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

First off, I know of at least one of those photos aren't of the DAPL protest, so you're a liar right there

Are these Indian women being raped by white men? Because if not, that's an irrelevant thing to bring up

UND Fargo used to be called the "fighting sioux" I live here and I've never met an Indian offended by it, it's something liberals from other parts of the country have cried foul about, UND, wanting national collegiate access, relented and changed their name. It's fucking retarded (most liberal causes are)


The 1851 treaty hasn't been recognized for quite some time, the current pipeline does NOT run over current Indian reservation land

***yes, the Native American population may have gotten fucked over by the conquest of N America, what ya expect, you want us all to go back to Europe? I hear they are only accepting muslims:lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23871092 - 11/27/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

excellent post Crumist :thumbup:

LDS is correct that the route of the pipeline does not go on the reservation but just North of it. It was moved after concerns it was too close to a white-majority city water supply. It has been moved to affect others' water supply and the law has not been followed.



This is not just an Native American fight (It baffles me why people still say Indians...), there are all races, religions, peoples - tribal or otherwise protecting the water supply of millions of people. If and when a pipeline leaks, by the time it is fixed how many thousands of barrel equivalents will be in a water supply that stretches halfway across America?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #23871453 - 11/27/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #23871518 - 11/27/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trigger warning: spoiler contains discussion of PC nomenclature

indigenous people of the US have been called many names by their conquerors and oppressors, few of which were coined by the natives themselves. In 1995, a US gov't study suggested that 50% prefer American Indian to 35% for Native American see table 4.2


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23871585 - 11/27/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

interesting, I didn't know that! seems odd to me tho


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,851
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23871632 - 11/27/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It has been suggested that the word "Indian" comes from a phrase spoken by Christopher Columbus, calling the Natives of this continent 'a people in God', or 'una gente in Dios.'  In Dios = Indian.  It has nothing to do with Columbus' thinking he found India, which until recently was called Hindustan, anyway.

Therefore, many Natives prefer the word "Indian" to "Native American."  It is not considered in any way pejorative or insensitive by the American Indian community.


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23871695 - 11/27/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks!

:themoreyouknow:


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23871821 - 11/27/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
Quote:

sweeper54 said:
People not wanting a pipeline FORCED across their Reservation does = civil rights




It's not on their reservation, please educate yourself







Educate yourself, look at the map above and then look up the word UNfuckingCEDED.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23871910 - 11/27/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

And yet it's still not on the reservation.

An arrogant attitude doesn't make you correct.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23872060 - 11/27/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It isn't SR but it their territory and I'm sure the courts will fuck them out of it. Again.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 3
    #23872071 - 11/27/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

eeso said:





200+ breaks in those pipeline in the past 6 years. And when one of those break there is far more chemicals that get dumped than a train.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23872510 - 11/27/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The Dakota pipeline goes through 1851 American-Indian treaty grounds that were illegally given to white American farmers.

Aka. The government signed a treaty to give land to the Native Americans, government figures then stole their land and gave it to others without the authority to do so as the treaty was in place.

Quote:

"On Dec. 3, if everything goes according to plan, hundreds of veterans will muster at the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation in North Dakota. The mission: To stop the Dakota Access Pipeline."
http://taskandpurpose.com/where-evil-resides-veterans-deploy-to-standing-rock-to-engage-the-enemy-the-us-government/




--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23873055 - 11/27/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

eeso said:





200+ breaks in those pipeline in the past 6 years. And when one of those break there is far more chemicals that get dumped than a train.




And somehow we are still here :shrug:

Here's the interesting thing about pipelines, the technology used to build them gets better every year, new pipelines means SAFER pipelines, a real environmentalist would applaud safer pipelines, not try to stop them

As for standing rock, they had literally hundreds of Opportunities to voice their concern, most of the time they were too busy:shrug:

Quote:

With the help of celebrities and professional activists, protests of the Dakota Access Pipeline in North Dakota have attracted international attention. The shouting and violence have drawn sympathy from people who are hearing only one side of the story — the one told by activists. Were the full story to be heard, much, if not all, of that sympathy would vanish.

The activists tell an emotionally charged tale of greed, racism and misbehavior by corporate and government officials. But the real story of the Dakota Access Pipeline was revealed in court documents in September, and it is nothing like the activists’ tale. In fact, it is the complete opposite.


The record shows that Energy Transfer Partners, the company building the pipeline, spent years working diligently with federal, state and local officials to route the pipeline safely and with the fewest possible disruptions. The contrast between the protesters’ claims and the facts on record is stunning.

Protesters claim that the pipeline was “fast-tracked,” denying tribal leaders the opportunity to participate in the process. In fact, project leaders participated in 559 meetings with community leaders, local officials and organizations to listen to concerns and fine-tune the route. The company asked for, and received, a tougher federal permitting process at sites along the Missouri River. This more difficult procedure included a mandated review of each water crossing’s potential effect on historical artifacts and locations.

Protesters claim that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers failed to consult tribal leaders as required by federal law. The record shows that the corps held 389 meetings with 55 tribes. Corps officials met numerous times with leaders of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe, which initiated the lawsuit and the protests.

Protesters claim that the Standing Rock Sioux pursued meetings with an unresponsive Army Corps of Engineers. Court records show that the roles in that story were in fact reversed. The corps alerted the tribe to the pipeline permit application in the fall of 2014 and repeatedly requested comments from and meetings with tribal leaders only to be rebuffed over and over. Tribal leaders ignored requests for comment and canceled meetings multiple times.

In September 2014 alone, the corps made five unsuccessful attempts to meet with Standing Rock Sioux leaders. The next month, a meeting was arranged, but “when the Corps timely arrived for the meeting, Tribal Chairman David Archambault told them that the conclave had started earlier than planned and had already ended,” according to a federal judge. At a planned meeting the next month, the tribe took the pipeline off the agenda and refused to discuss it. This stonewalling by tribal leaders continued for a year and a half.

Typical of the misinformation spread during the protests is a comment made by Jesse Jackson, who recently joined the activists in North Dakota. He said the decision to reroute the pipeline so that it crossed close to the Standing Rock Sioux tribe’s water intake was “racism.”

He did not mention, possibly because he did not know, that the company is paying to relocate the tribe’s water intake to a new spot 70 miles from the location of the contested pipeline crossing.

The pipeline route was adjusted based on concerns expressed by locals — including other tribal leaders — who met with company and Army Corps of Engineers officials. The court record reveals that the Standing Rock Sioux refused to meet with corps officials to discuss the route until after site work had begun. That work is now 77 percent completed at a cost of $3 billion.

In response to a lawsuit filed by the Standing Rock Sioux, the court documented “dozens of attempts” by the corps to consult with the tribe. It documented the legal and proper approval process the corps used to permit all of the contested construction sites the tribe claimed were improperly permitted. It even documented evidence that the corps had exceeded the minimum legal requirements during its earnest and lengthy efforts to receive the input of tribal leaders on the pipeline.

Pipeline protesters may have a tight grip on media coverage of the pipeline, but they have a demonstrably loose grip on the facts. The truth — as documented not by the company but by the federal court system — is that pipeline approvals were not rushed, permits were not granted illegally, and tribal leaders were not excluded. These are proven facts upheld by two federal courts.

If only this side of the story were getting the same attention as the other side. Perhaps judges should start announcing their rulings by megaphone while standing beside a few media-attracting celebrities.




http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-standing-rock-sioux-other-side-110916-20161109-story.html


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23873169 - 11/27/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

An environmentalist would say no new pipelines and to instead replace old pipelines with new ones.

200 pipeline breakages and you say 'somehow we're still here', as if it doesn't count because we haven't entirely killed the environment yet. 

As for standing rock any concerns they've had have been ignored.

There is a land treaty these corporations are breaking and that's it.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23873601 - 11/27/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
An environmentalist would say no new pipelines and to instead replace old pipelines with new ones.

200 pipeline breakages and you say 'somehow we're still here', as if it doesn't count because we haven't entirely killed the environment yet. 

As for standing rock any concerns they've had have been ignored.

There is a land treaty these corporations are breaking and that's it.




So let them build the new pipeline

Minor accidents the oil companies have become surprisingly good at cleaning up, wouldn't you say?

The oil companies didn't sign any land treaties, that's what the federal law, and courts are for,  and two federal judges have upheld the DAPL right to build

***you don't like oil, we get it, then stop fucking using it, if all you oil haters stopped using it, they wouldn't have any need to build new pipelines :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23873628 - 11/27/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sudly said: An environmentalist would say no new pipelines and to instead replace old pipelines with new ones.





Quote:

hostileuniverse said: So let them build the new pipeline



:facepalm:

Oil isn't a renewable resource and trying to clean up the horrible mess after every leakage is not something to celebrate. 

Either way the DAPL is breaking treaty law whether backed by payed off judges or not.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23873637 - 11/27/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Quote:

Sudly said: An environmentalist would say no new pipelines and to instead replace old pipelines with new ones.





Quote:

hostileuniverse said: So let them build the new pipeline



:facepalm:

Oil isn't a renewable resource and trying to clean up the horrible mess after every leakage is not something to celebrate. 

Either way the DAPL is breaking treaty law whether backed by payed off judges or not.




Oh BS, you have absolutely no proof these obama appointed judges were paid off, I'm sure they tried to find any legal way to stop it, that's how solid of a case DAPL has,

***the pipeline is coming, deal with it


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23873664 - 11/27/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Obama has paid off and been paid off by plenty of people.

Quote:

One month before the presidential election of 2008, the giant Wall Street bank Citigroup submitted to the Obama campaign a list of its preferred candidates for cabinet positions in an Obama administration. This list corresponds almost exactly to the eventual composition of Barack Obama’s cabinet.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/15/wiki-o15.html




Quote:

A Study for the Centre for Public Integrity has found that 27 out of the 36 people who "bundled" donations of more than $500,000 (£307,000) received jobs such as ambassadorships or economic advisory roles. About fifty per cent of bundlers who raised more than $200,000 (£123,000) got jobs
https://www.abcbullion.com.au/investor-centre/blog/Barack-Obama-campaign-donors-rewarded-with-government-jobs




--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23873683 - 11/27/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We all knew obama was corrupt

Now cite proof of these judges being paid off


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23873711 - 11/27/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There's a lot of nuance and we don't have definitive answers yet.

Quote:

Hanigan's clients are contesting the use of eminent domain on 15 Iowa farms for the construction of the $4 billion Dakota Access pipeline, which will carry more than a half-million barrels of crude oil daily from North Dakota's Bakken oil fields through South Dakota and Iowa to a distribution hub in Patoka, Ill.

Hanigan's suit argues that Dakota Access LLC does not qualify as a utility and does not have the authority to use eminent domain to build its pipeline. Eminent domain is power of the government to take private property and convert it for public benefit in return for fair-market compensation.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2016/08/19/judge-rule-soon-whether-halt-dakota-access-pipeline/89014600/




Additionally it doesn't look like you actually read my words.
Quote:

whether backed by payed off judges or not.




--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23873751 - 11/27/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
There's a lot of nuance and we don't have definitive answers yet.

Quote:

Hanigan's clients are contesting the use of eminent domain on 15 Iowa farms for the construction of the $4 billion Dakota Access pipeline, which will carry more than a half-million barrels of crude oil daily from North Dakota's Bakken oil fields through South Dakota and Iowa to a distribution hub in Patoka, Ill.

Hanigan's suit argues that Dakota Access LLC does not qualify as a utility and does not have the authority to use eminent domain to build its pipeline. Eminent domain is power of the government to take private property and convert it for public benefit in return for fair-market compensation.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2016/08/19/judge-rule-soon-whether-halt-dakota-access-pipeline/89014600/




Additionally it doesn't look like you actually read my words.
Quote:

whether backed by payed off judges or not.







I am actulky 100% behind you on the abuse of the eminent domain clause, I don't think that should be allowed to be used to build this

That aside, I find it funny, because the federal government has basically told the states to go fuck themselves

When Jan Brewer and Arizona tried to secure its border, who told them "your state has no right"?

When N Carolina wanted to segregate bathrooms, who told them "your state has no rights"?

When many other states wanted to keep marriage between a man and woman, who told them "your state has no rights"?

And the list goes on and on and on ...

***Big federal govt supported by libs and all their big government policies and now it's biting them in the ass, I find that aspect of this situation comical


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23873803 - 11/27/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Border security in America involves a rigorous vetting procedure that can take 18 months to get through.

Segregated bathrooms would lead to trans people who look like men being in the womens bathroom and vice versa which would only infuriate fundamentalists more. A unisex toilet is the solution to that issue. As there are already plenty of and can be more.

Refusing to let a man marry another man or a woman marry another woman is refusing them their right to marriage.

Religious people don't have the right to force their opinions to change the lifestyles of those they disagree with as referred to in the constitution.

Quote:

"Separation of church and state" is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."




If someone's religion leads them to believe that unicorns live inside shoes then it doesn't mean they have the right to force others to take their shoes off as wearing them would disturb the unicorns and offend their religion.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23874319 - 11/28/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I wasn't arguing for any of those policies, merely pointing out how federal overreach is now affecting someithing libs care about, and it's funny :lol:

The same could be said every time I hear the left bitching about a "militarized police force"

***Big govt is all fine for them until they start acting like big govt thugs :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23874332 - 11/28/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Additionally it doesn't look like you actually read my words.




thats why many of us have hostileuniverse aka. the straw man king, on ignore. He doesn't know how to read, debate, understand basic facts or get through a day without butt-hurt.

I don't think I've seen you in the political forum before but advice I would offer is that you can try to hold HU's hand and try to have an honest debate but I've only seen it fail... join the ignore strawman movement. represent.

good luck
:grin:

PS: good posts btw thank you for contributing.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Edited by Tipote (11/28/16 07:11 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23874371 - 11/28/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

sudly said:
Additionally it doesn't look like you actually read my words.




thats why many of us have hostileuniverse aka. the straw man king, on ignore. He doesn't know how to read, debate, understand basic facts or get through a day without butt-hurt.

I don't think I've seen you in the political forum before but advice I would offer is that you can try to hold HU's hand and try to have an honest debate but I've only seen it fail... join the ignore strawman movement. represent.

good luck
:grin:

PS: good posts btw thank you for contributing.




:carlinorgasm:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23874514 - 11/28/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

eeso said:





200+ breaks in those pipeline in the past 6 years. And when one of those break there is far more chemicals that get dumped than a train.




NO.
http://globalnews.ca/news/1069624/how-do-crude-spills-compare-by-rail-truck-pipeline-you-may-be-surprised/

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 1
    #23874529 - 11/28/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

As for the 1851 treaty that noDAPL people like to bandie about; that treaty was supplanted by an 1868 treaty (that the Sioux signed) that redrew the treaty boundaries to not include the claimed so-called "treaty land" that the pipeline is being built on.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23874549 - 11/28/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

eeso said:
As for the 1851 treaty that noDAPL people like to bandie about; that treaty was supplanted by an 1868 treaty (that the Sioux signed) that redrew the treaty boundaries to not include the claimed so-called "treaty land" that the pipeline is being built on.




:thumbup:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 1
    #23874671 - 11/28/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Could you provide a link pls?

Regardless of treaty land (because the US govt has a long history of not respecting it anyway), the point is that there are ancient burial and cultural sites that need protecting..

and the most significant point is that one single pipeline leak will affect the water supply of tens of millions of people.

yes there are pipelines everywhere, do they not contaminate water and land? All of them should have been protested.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23874977 - 11/28/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Could you provide a link pls?

Regardless of treaty land (because the US govt has a long history of not respecting it anyway), the point is that there are ancient burial and cultural sites that need protecting..

and the most significant point is that one single pipeline leak will affect the water supply of tens of millions of people.

yes there are pipelines everywhere, do they not contaminate water and land? All of them should have been protested.




If you weren't so busy, flying around on jets and polluting the atmosphere, maybe we wouldn't need more pipelines :shrug:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23875247 - 11/28/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry I can't find the link and map I got that info from to cite, so you can take my statement as hearsay.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 3
    #23875303 - 11/28/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23875439 - 11/28/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Same Company Behind Dakota Access Pipeline

http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/11/another-pipeline-bursts-endangering-drinking-water-6-million-people-company-behind-dakota-access-pipeline/




no drinking water was contaminated, the pipeline safety features shut it down, and the spill was promptly cleaned up and contained

***thanks for sharing another pipeline success story


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23875517 - 11/28/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did you look at the blast area?

Thankfully this happened in a rural area, at some point it will be far more destructive even with "pipeline safety features."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23875532 - 11/28/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Pipelines are the safest way to transport large amounts oil or gas. Until you can come up with an alternative, I'd rather keep using what is safest

***if all the anti pipeline libs would stop using fossil fuels, they would stOp building them


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23875658 - 11/28/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I made 30kw of power today in less then 4 hours of peak sun with my solar panels and that will push my electric car a long fucking ways.

The house is heated only by wood, until I get my mini-split heater installed.

Dyer, Water Heater AND Stove, ALL Electric.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23876725 - 11/28/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That is very impressive. It is important to add that one can criticize a system while living within it, too. "Damn those uppity peasants storming the Bastille with the King's powder!"


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23877232 - 11/29/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I do own a Jeep Patriot for the longer trips.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23877673 - 11/29/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23878827 - 11/29/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That will take awhile to read thru.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23879025 - 11/29/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
That will take awhile to read thru.




Just skip to the end

***DAPL completed


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23879087 - 11/29/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OK, I'll play your silly game.

Who's Shailene Woodley?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23879866 - 11/29/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here's a recap from the Young Turks on the Dakota pipeline.
Shailene Woodley has been on their show and supported them for ages too.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23879926 - 11/29/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Great video!  :thumbup:


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23879932 - 11/29/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Playback has been disabled

What kind of fuckery is this?


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23879996 - 11/29/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do what it says - click "Watch this video on YouTube"


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23880008 - 11/29/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't click outside links!:psycrankey:

***prolly some liberal trick to hack my email and add me to a Hildabeast mailing list


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23881428 - 11/30/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
I don't click outside links!:psycrankey:

***prolly some liberal trick to hack my email and add me to a Hildabeast mailing list




Come on hostileuniverse, I've been so impressed with your dialog - don't claim some ridiculous conspiracy theory. I get those "play on you-tube" links all the time when you-tube videos are posted on non-youtube sites including facebook.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23881831 - 11/30/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:smbfacepalm: ignoring him doesnt stop him jacking threads i guess..


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso]
    #23881836 - 11/30/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

eeso said:
I've been so impressed with your dialog




:lmafo:


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23881845 - 11/30/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm rather new to this forum and I don't want to have to block someone but there is one galaxy out here that seems to contribute to the diminishment and stagnation of an informative discussion.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23881858 - 11/30/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Here's a recap from the Young Turks on the Dakota pipeline.
Shailene Woodley has been on their show and supported them for ages too.




yeh, great video, outlined things pretty well. the next few days should be very eventful.

if they are smart they won't try to be too heavy handed in those 3 days the veterans are there, then when things die down they might bring out more force.
A lot of attention will be on this because of the veterans (apparently 2000 are coming!) so how the police, private security and the army corp react will probably show the trend of how things will go. The genie is out of the bottle now so it'll take a hell of a lot to clear this land. If the protestors can last for Trumps inauguration, we are set for some catalysts I hope.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23881879 - 11/30/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
I'm rather new to this forum and I don't want to have to block someone but there is one galaxy out here that seems to contribute to the diminishment and stagnation of an informative discussion.




He is the only person I've ever ignored and I resisted ignoring him for aaaaages, I only changed that recently. He can't be helped..but I understand you need to go through that process yourself. It is a right of passage in this forum.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23881895 - 11/30/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I heard the 'Pipeline Police' called for backup from a nearby country but as they were on their way their chief called them back because he believed the water protectors were in their legal right to be there.

Yeah the veteran groups are supposed to be getting there on the 4th and 5th of December and hopefully it will put a spotlight on the corruption at hand.


On another note of corruption I think it's fair to say that corruption is murder especially for a case earlier this year in a Florida Hospital where children who had heart surgery died at a rate of 400% more than the national average because of bribery and deregulation.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23882150 - 11/30/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You people also need Jesus, stand with Standing Rock and be informed.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23882376 - 11/30/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23882417 - 11/30/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The protesters are not coming to the table?


Corporations have bought cable media and turned journalism into stenography for their donors.


If you want to be informed you need to find yourself a new-media source that is supported by the people and not influenced by corporations for a profiteering agenda.

E.g. The Young Turks, Secular Talk, The Ring of Fire, Jordan Chariton, David Pakman show, Vice etc.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Edited by sudly (11/30/16 05:37 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23886271 - 12/01/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

If you want to be informed you need to find yourself a new-media source that is supported by the people and not influenced by corporations for a profiteering agenda




:lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23886599 - 12/02/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

has anyone mentioned that indigenous land is, supposed to be, sovereign territory? by legal treaty? here in Canada we have that too, we dont recognize them even though there is legal documentation of these treaties. They should essentially be their own countries. therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them. I also watched one of the videos someone posted, discussing the different state licence plates, its because many indgenous groups from various other states - or sovereign countries if you feel the law matters - of native areas so they are protesting with their fellow natives. The standing rock tribe didn't come to "the table" because they know that "the table" gets them nothing. when the U.S and Canada start recognizing the legal treaties as law, and sovereign territory and peoples, as they always claim to be benevolent forces for good and lecture everyone else on human rights, then perhaps the situation would be different. not about left or right here, about treaties that have been legally signed are ignored.


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
    #23886746 - 12/02/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

anthiawe said:
therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.




The pipeline isn't on their land.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23886874 - 12/02/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

anthiawe said:
therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.




The pipeline isn't on their land.




They won't accept that, never mind it was upheld by TWO federal judges,

  ***It's all nonsense


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23888218 - 12/02/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is the kind of idiocy we are up against...

Quote:

The Dakota pipeline protests have become the frontline representation of the critical struggle against a completely out of control totalitarian power structure. Those in power cannot afford to allow this justifiable protest to continue or succeed. Geoengineering/weather warfare has now been added to the already long list of criminal assaults that have been hurled at the peaceful pipeline protesters. In the coming days and weeks, weather warfare will likely be the most deadly and effective weapon that the power structure will wield against the pieceful Dakota pipeling protesters.




http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/power-structure-wages-weather-warfare-against-dakota-pipeline-protesters/

It would be comical if they didn't vote... for people like Bernice and the Hildabeast


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23888620 - 12/02/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

*meep*


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Edited by Crumist (12/02/16 07:24 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23888754 - 12/02/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
This is the kind of idiocy we are up against...

Quote:

The Dakota pipeline protests have become the frontline representation of the critical struggle against a completely out of control totalitarian power structure. Those in power cannot afford to allow this justifiable protest to continue or succeed. Geoengineering/weather warfare has now been added to the already long list of criminal assaults that have been hurled at the peaceful pipeline protesters. In the coming days and weeks, weather warfare will likely be the most deadly and effective weapon that the power structure will wield against the pieceful Dakota pipeling protesters.




http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/power-structure-wages-weather-warfare-against-dakota-pipeline-protesters/

It would be comical if they didn't vote... for people like Bernice and the Hildabeast




--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23893131 - 12/04/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

anthiawe said:
therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.




The pipeline isn't on their land.




Do you deny the long history of theft and broken treaties? anyway, go ahead and miss my point that it is irrelevant that its actually on unceded land - this affects the water supplies of millions of people besides the native american population.

Answer me this:

Why was the route of the pipeline moved South?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23893153 - 12/04/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

don't think its irrelevant that its on unceded land since that's part of the reason so many indigenous peoples maintain the perspective of colonization and the resistance to it, as in the Dakota protests. yes the issues may have an affect on the rest of the population, but its mainly indigenous peoples trying to stop it with obstructive resistance, protecting what they see as their land and sovereign territory. 

i'm not sure if youre asking me? but I don't know much about the south movement of the pipeline.


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
    #23893242 - 12/04/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The pipeline crossing was moved downriver of neighbouring Bismarck's water access due to a "not in my backyard"movement


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
    #23893496 - 12/04/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

anthiawe said:
don't think its irrelevant that its on unceded land since that's part of the reason so many indigenous peoples maintain the perspective of colonization and the resistance to it, as in the Dakota protests. yes the issues may have an affect on the rest of the population, but its mainly indigenous peoples trying to stop it with obstructive resistance, protecting what they see as their land and sovereign territory. 

i'm not sure if youre asking me? but I don't know much about the south movement of the pipeline.




yes, let me clarify. I dont think that the fact that its unceded is irrelevant. I mean that even if it wasn't their land, it still affects their land and everyone else downstream.

I think the resistance against colonisation is very important and didn't mean to make it seem unimportant.

and no, my post was directed to luvdemshrooms. I want him to understand that the pipeline was moved because it raised a risk to the city's water supply, so it was moved on to another community that is used to being fucked over by the state.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23893864 - 12/04/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Do you deny the long history of theft and broken treaties?




As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.


Quote:

anyway, go ahead and miss my point that it is irrelevant that its actually on unceded land




As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.


Quote:

- this affects the water supplies of millions of people besides the native american population.




So do the thousands of other pipelines across the country. Still not on their land. Still immaterial.


Quote:

Answer me this:

Why was the route of the pipeline moved South?




My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23894082 - 12/04/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.




And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23894422 - 12/04/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.




And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.




Several hundred meeting were held, standing rock declined to attend, and now they are bitching about the result.

Sounds similar to the people pissed off about Trump winning that DIDN'T vote :facepalm:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23894503 - 12/04/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.




And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.




Several hundred meeting were held, standing rock declined to attend, and now they are bitching about the result.

Sounds similar to the people pissed off about Trump winning that DIDN'T vote :facepalm:




The Standing Rock tribe was actually offered over $1 billion for their land but they denied it because they didn't want to see their sacred lands impacted by oil pipelines.

Seeing as they tend to leak, as has happened over 200 times since 2000 in which hundred of millions of litres of gas and oil were spilt. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

Also president Obama just nullified a key DAPL permit.
Quote:

Standing Rock: US denies key permit for Dakota Access pipeline, a win for tribe
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/04/dakota-access-pipeline-permit-denied-standing-rock




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23894627 - 12/04/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

December 5 was the day the pipeland swore to move all the camps, I hope everyone stays safe out there.

And not that it will change a single mind, but:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-violence-against-native-americans-goes-far-beyond-standing-rock/


--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 2
    #23894681 - 12/04/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Army Corps Denies Easement For Dakota Access Pipeline

The pipeline is shut down and they have to find a new fucking route.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/04/504354503/army-corps-denies-easement-for-dakota-access-pipeline-says-tribal-organization

Put THAT in your peace pipe and smoke it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23894711 - 12/04/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Army Corps Denies Easement For Dakota Access Pipeline

The pipeline is shut down and they have to find a new fucking route.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/04/504354503/army-corps-denies-easement-for-dakota-access-pipeline-says-tribal-organization

Put THAT in your peace pipe and smoke it.




And now we find out if this was really about "protecting the reservation" or just another terrorist action by environmental fuckheads


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23894737 - 12/04/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
And now we find out if this was really about "protecting the reservation"





--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23894811 - 12/04/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Woot!

This is EDIT:(un)fortunately far from over, but for now the fight with tear gas and clubs will be paused. Tonight-tomorrow could really have been a shitfest.

I meant unfortunately, haha.

Edited by Crumist (12/04/16 07:39 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23894882 - 12/04/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Crumist said:
Woot!

This is fortunately far from over,




Did you mean "unfortunately"?

If so, I agree with you, giving in to terrorism doesn't make it go away, unfortunately


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23894914 - 12/04/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Protecting a reservation?


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23895842 - 12/05/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

so wait? who are the terrorists here? you should be referring to the US government who has sold out to big business and attempted to pursue their own economic interests on a sovereign territory. Aggressors are the "terrorists"; the U.S, every time. You don't achieve global hegemony by being a great force for good you achieve it by telling your own population your a force for good when in reality your goals are complete domination of the economics, politics, and socio-cultural fabric of other societies without caring about death and despair. The American populous are the only people who have given in to terrorism - your own government.


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
    #23895846 - 12/05/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't call anyone involved in DAPL or the protests against it a terrorist.

I would call the situation a corporate agenda that stems from Citizens United which classifies corporations as human beings and grants them access to tax loopholes.

It just goes to shoes that profiteering shouldn't be the only agenda in politics.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23895969 - 12/05/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.




And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.




So, you got nothing.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23895987 - 12/05/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23896039 - 12/05/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.




reservation does not equal unceded land. There is a distinction you are missing.

so youre saying that the long history of abuse against native americans is immaterial? 

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.




Can you show me evidence to that affect?

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Army Corps Denies Easement For Dakota Access Pipeline

The pipeline is shut down and they have to find a new fucking route.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/04/504354503/army-corps-denies-easement-for-dakota-access-pipeline-says-tribal-organization

Put THAT in your peace pipe and smoke it.




Excellent news!!!


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23896069 - 12/05/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Crumist said:
December 5 was the day the pipeland swore to move all the camps, I hope everyone stays safe out there.

And not that it will change a single mind, but:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-violence-against-native-americans-goes-far-beyond-standing-rock/





Quote:

For instance, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Native Americans were killed by police at a rate of 0.21 per 100,000 from 1999 to 2014, and African-Americans (who outnumber Native Americans roughly 10 to 1) were killed at a rate of 0.25 per 100,000.2



interesting read. so fucked up. I bet qman would see stats like this as showing genetic predisposition towards crime :lol:.

nowadays people are like 'seee, you should have empathised with the suffering white working class. whites can have a hard time for a few decades and then vocally unleash their butthurt on society...while forgetting that other groups, who have been suffering for centuries, have a tiny fraction of the means to make their suffering heard. The double standards are staggering. Look at the armed Bundy people on federal land..compare and contrast with unarmed native Americans on unceded territory. It would have been interesting to see how things would have been different if Bundy's armed gang were trying to resist a pipeline.

I attribute the victory today to the independent media, the veterans and of course all the water protectors in situ and globally in solidarity. This battle will prepare more for future battles. The connections that have been made between activists is a big positive.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23896093 - 12/05/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I guess the camp will not be emptying any time soon. I imagine people are going to sit there beyond the inauguration of Drumpf.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23896105 - 12/05/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

"The fight against Dakota Access has fired up a resistance movement that is ready to take on any fossil fuel project the Trump administration tries to approve. On Dakota Access and every other pipeline: If he tries to build it, we will come."




http://www.myndnow.com/news/dakota-access-pipeline-what-happens-next

And there you have it, it was never about protecting any land or water supply, it was just another terrorist action from anti oil nutjobs,

***this aggression cannot stand, man

Quote:

Tipote said:
I guess the camp will not be emptying any time soon. I imagine people are going to sit there beyond the inauguration of TRUMP.




Must be nice not to have a job :rolleyes:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23896348 - 12/05/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
reservation does not equal unceded land. There is a distinction you are missing.




Is your comprehension so poor? I didn't miss it... I said: As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.


Quote:

so youre saying that the long history of abuse against native americans is immaterial? 




That's an entirely different question.


Quote:

Can you show me evidence to that affect?




I'd say your reading abilities as as poor as your comprehension, but I doubt you'd have the maturity to admit either.


Quote:

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers evaluated the Bismarck route and concluded it was not a viable option for many reasons. One reason mentioned in the agency’s environmental assessment is the proximity to wellhead source water protection areas that are avoided to protect municipal water supply wells.




http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/pipeline-route-plan-first-called-for-crossing-north-of-bismarck/article_64d053e4-8a1a-5198-a1dd-498d386c933c.html

http://www.snopes.com/dapl-routed-through-standing-rock-after-bismarck-residents-said-no/


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23896452 - 12/05/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
reservation does not equal unceded land. There is a distinction you are missing.




Is your comprehension so poor? I didn't miss it... I said: As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.




seems like I touched a nerve suggesting you missed something:eek:

You missed the point that no one was saying it was on reservation land.
The point is that is it on historically native american land that has been taken by treaty violation after treaty violation.
This has been going on for 500 years and is not immaterial.. which is why I asked you the next question...... :

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

so youre saying that the long history of abuse against native americans is immaterial? 




That's an entirely different question.




Can you answer it?

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Can you show me evidence to that affect?




I'd say your reading abilities as as poor as your comprehension, but I doubt you'd have the maturity to admit either.




Oh man, I can feel your chipped ego from here. I was just trying to clarify as you seem to not be exactly following the same discussion everyone else is having.

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers evaluated the Bismarck route and concluded it was not a viable option for many reasons. One reason mentioned in the agency’s environmental assessment is the proximity to wellhead source water protection areas that are avoided to protect municipal water supply wells.




http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/pipeline-route-plan-first-called-for-crossing-north-of-bismarck/article_64d053e4-8a1a-5198-a1dd-498d386c933c.html

http://www.snopes.com/dapl-routed-through-standing-rock-after-bismarck-residents-said-no/




And an environmental impact assessment wasn't done for the route through unceded native american territory so I dont think there was a comparison in order to say clearly that fewer people would be affected though it may well be the case. I dont think the 18 million people downstream would be completely unaffected but again, this wasn't assessed... The reason for not continuing the route, as you said was that it went too close to their water supplies etc; do the water supplies, history, culture and rights not matter? Put that in the context of 500 years of colonisation and is that still immaterial to you?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23896613 - 12/05/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

double post


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (12/05/16 11:45 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23896617 - 12/05/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
seems like I touched a nerve suggesting you missed something




Your self back-patting is unwarranted.


Quote:

You missed the point that no one was saying it was on reservation land.




Really?

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Neutral on the pipeline, but not on Indian lands.




Quote:

sweeper54 said:
People not wanting a pipeline FORCED across their Reservation does = civil rights




Quote:

sudly said:
There is a land treaty these corporations are breaking and that's it.




You were one of those who got it right... yet some brain fart {partisanship?} now has you saying... but, but, no-one said that. Those examples were just from a quick look.


Quote:

Can you answer it?




What, have the Indians been shit on? Of course. What an incredibly stupid question.

Quote:

Oh man, I can feel your chipped ego from here.




Of course you can. You're a legend in your own mind.


Quote:

I was just trying to clarify as you seem to not be exactly following the same discussion everyone else is having.




Seems the one not following along was you.

Quote:

And an environmental impact assessment wasn't done for the route through unceded native american territory so I dont think there was a comparison in order to say clearly that fewer people would be affected though it may well be the case.




Do you have the ability to compare the populations of the two areas? Bismarck and the reservation? et me help since simple tasks seem beyond your willingness.

Bismarck: 61,272

Standing Rock Sioux: 8,250


Quote:

do the water supplies, history, culture and rights not matter?




No. It's not their land.


Quote:

Put that in the context of 500 years of colonisation and is that still immaterial to you?




Yes. It's still immaterial.


Besides, as Heidi Heitkamp puts it:

Quote:

The Dakota Access oil pipeline will be completed under Donald Trump's administration, and the fight to reroute the pipeline by the Standing Rock Sioux and environmental groups was "not winnable," North Dakota Sen. Heidi Heitkamp said Monday.




--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23896622 - 12/05/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Appparently Tip is unaware all of America is on "historically native land" :facepalm:

***The ignorance is painful to watch


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCrumist
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 781
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23901657 - 12/06/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



--------------------
'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion
Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23903520 - 12/07/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I really hope they sue the Army corp of engineers, what kind of incompetent govt agency lets a company build 92% of their project and then shuts them down?

They need to be held accountable and I really hope they are pursuing legal means

***or just wait until Jan 20 and ram this fucker through :lol:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMorel Guy
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 15,577
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23903629 - 12/07/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
I really hope they sue the Army corp of engineers, what kind of incompetent govt agency lets a company build 92% of their project and then shuts them down?

They need to be held accountable and I really hope they are pursuing legal means

***or just wait until Jan 20 and ram this fucker through :lol:




Such as Trump and Boeing contracts for a new Air Force 1?

Or other military projects?

Takes a lot of money just for a drawing board.


--------------------
"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23903834 - 12/07/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Morel Guy said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
I really hope they sue the Army corp of engineers, what kind of incompetent govt agency lets a company build 92% of their project and then shuts them down?

They need to be held accountable and I really hope they are pursuing legal means

***or just wait until Jan 20 and ram this fucker through :lol:




Such as Trump and Boeing contracts for a new Air Force 1?

Or other military projects?

Takes a lot of money just for a drawing board.




Hardly comparable, the 747 isn't even started, much less 92% completed

Anyone who thinks it's right to approve a project, let them spend billions, complete 92% of it, and THEN stop it is nothing but a shill for someone


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMorel Guy
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 15,577
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23903858 - 12/07/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trump wants to do that with the new advanced fighters as well.  He is buying into all the bumps and bruises the programs have ran into.

Hitler knew more about being commander in Chief than Trump ever will.


--------------------
"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23904023 - 12/07/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you even make that comparison?

I think trump is the biggest piece of shit and that was before he entered politics. He's a con man, but drop the Hitler analogies, lil'dick will never be as bad as Hitler.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23904037 - 12/07/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Why would you even make that comparison?

I think trump is the biggest piece of shit and that was before he entered politics. He's a con man, but drop the Hitler analogies, lil'dick will never be as bad as Hitler.




It's all some have.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23904357 - 12/07/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Basically when you have nothing else in your gun you play the Hitler card.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23909436 - 12/09/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Basically when you have nothing else in your gun you play the Hitler card.




Or the 'racist', 'misogynist', or whichever 'ist' is the 'ist' of the day.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23910372 - 12/09/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If people would stop being racist, no one will play what you call the 'racist card'.  :cookiemonster:


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23910402 - 12/09/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If people would stop being racist, no one will play what you call the 'racist card'.  :cookiemonster:




The word has become completely meaningless today thanks to people like yourself, the real racists now get a free ride.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 2
    #23910420 - 12/09/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Believing your race superior without supporting evidence is racist.


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23910440 - 12/09/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Believing your race superior without supporting evidence is racist.




Unfortunately, too many people like to speculate that's what someone is thinking despite the fact they never said anything about superiority.

That's called prejudging someone based on a gut feeling and no evidence. People do it to Trump all the time, it's ridiculous.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesweeper54
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/07/12
Posts: 2,865
Last seen: 17 hours, 36 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23910449 - 12/09/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

But lil'dick feels he's superior to everyone.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 1
    #23910467 - 12/09/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Believing your race superior without supporting evidence is racist.




Unfortunately, too many people like to speculate that's what someone is thinking despite the fact they never said anything about superiority.



When you call other races all kinds of disparaging terms, don't you think that implies superiority?

It's kind of like you saying "I never called white people superior, I only called non-whites inferior".


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23910499 - 12/09/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Believing your race superior without supporting evidence is racist.




Unfortunately, too many people like to speculate that's what someone is thinking despite the fact they never said anything about superiority.



When you call other races all kinds of disparaging terms, don't you think that implies superiority?

It's kind of like you saying "I never called white people superior, I only called non-whites inferior".




Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23910506 - 12/09/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is a difference between a supremacist and a separatist..


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23910550 - 12/09/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If people would stop being racist, no one will play what you call the 'racist card'.




Racist comments need not be made for some children to bandy the word about.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23910670 - 12/09/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah screw those bloody purple people!

Only my blood is red


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineakira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23912009 - 12/10/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.




"people from those backward countries are primitive and European culture is superior in everyway".

not a racist, i'm just saying racist things. so i'm not a racist, i'm a chauvinist saying things a racist would say. two totally different things.


...and you wonder why people are concerned with your rhetoric being racist. :elmo: well, i guess it's neither here nor there.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23912150 - 12/10/16 04:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.




so like White people being ignorant about the real world? having no real culture, just consumption? the worlds imperialists? claiming high moral values then raping, killing, maiming, their way around the world?


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 27,369
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe] * 1
    #23912235 - 12/10/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I identify as an Alaskan Pipeline.  The Dakota pipeline is inferior to my kind.


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThe Ecstatic
Chilldog Extraordinaire


Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 33,752
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 8 hours, 9 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23912337 - 12/10/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
I identify as an Alaskan Pipeline.  The Dakota pipeline is inferior to my kind.




Well, yeah.

The proud, independent Alaskan pipeline never leaks and transports 5 times as much oil.

The shitty thug Dakota pipeline is leeching off the system and not really pulling its weight. No wonder Dakota pipelines never get anywhere in this country, all of them just want free stuff.

Whats racist about that


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23912371 - 12/10/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the Dakota pipeline that lives under colonialism, a system run by white settlers? settlers that just want others stuff, like land and resources?


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThe Ecstatic
Chilldog Extraordinaire


Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 33,752
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 8 hours, 9 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe] * 1
    #23912392 - 12/10/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yeah.

why shouldnt i be able to blame the victim for circumstances they didn't create and cannot change?


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
    #23912441 - 12/10/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

anthiawe said:
Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.




so like White people being ignorant about the real world? having no real culture, just consumption? the worlds imperialists? claiming high moral values then raping, killing, maiming, their way around the world?




If the statement is accurate, so be it.  I'm not going start screaming the word "racist" because I might disagree with the opinion. It's called having a free and open exchange of ideas without slandering people because the statement might not be something that's politically correct.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDeemstar
Doctor Deemstar
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/11/12
Posts: 883
Loc: The void
Last seen: 1 month, 28 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23912452 - 12/10/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Michigan, native. I would appreciate anybody who doesn't really understand how damaging leaking oil pipelines are, how little oil companies give a shit if their pipes leak. Please, come visit or live in Kalamazoo, where the kids have random seizures, impaired functioning, Leukemia and early onset cancers are 10x the national average, the pets and the fish have tumors.

The public tap is contaminated with oil, the worst part about it, it wasn't obvious, and a lot people didn't realize until it was too late.

Drinking water will end up very scarce in the immediate future if we continue to waste it on fracking and industrial demands, Trillions of gallons are required on demand annually to keep the system lubricated.

Maybe when the drinking water shortages hit your community you will understand why these "water protectors" were so god damned outraged by industrial development on an untouched river basin!

Any ex- unbridle employee will tell you, that company will fire you if you even mention Kalamazoo. No joke. Anyone defending the remaining employees (pawns) of the pipeline is a simple tool.

Edited by Deemstar (12/10/16 08:40 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23912465 - 12/10/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

qman said:
Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.




"people from those backward countries are primitive and European culture is superior in everyway".

not a racist, i'm just saying racist things. so i'm not a racist,




You're not making any sense again.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Deemstar]
    #23912471 - 12/10/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Deemstar said:
Michigan, native. I would appreciate anybody who doesn't really understand how damaging leaking oil pipelines are, how little oil companies give a shit if their pipes leak. Please, come visit or live in Kalamazoo, where the kids have random seizures, impaired functioning, Leukemia and early onset cancers are 10x the national average, the pets and the fish have tumors.

The public tap is contaminated with oil, the worst part about it, it wasn't obvious, and a lot people didn't realize until it was too late.

Drinking water will end up very scarce in the immediate future if we continue to waste it on fracking and industrial demands, Trillions of gallons are required on demand annually to keep the system lubricated.

Maybe when the drinking water shortages hit your community you will understand why these "water protectors" were so god damned outraged by industrial development on an untouched river basin!




Pipelines that leak are a very serious issue, but what is the better alternative?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDeemstar
Doctor Deemstar
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/11/12
Posts: 883
Loc: The void
Last seen: 1 month, 28 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23912491 - 12/10/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I feel like we should be utilizing and advancing towards more efficient forms of transportation.

Hybrid technology.

Have you rode in a new hybrid? You can't even hear the engine and it rides so smooth you feel like your flying kinda.

I feel like a system that imposes every one should have their own expensive vehicle is in a sense madness. It wouldn't work on a bigger picture, look at the madness in china trying integrate personal motor vehicles in massive populations.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanthiawe
friendly stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23912502 - 12/10/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

anthiawe said:
Sometimes an adjective describing a group of people is accurate even if you feel it's disparaging.  :shrug:  That doesn't necessarily make someone a racist.

Expressing ideas and truths that aren't politically correct are just things some people don't want to hear, that's why the racist labeling is so desirable from these snowflakes.




so like White people being ignorant about the real world? having no real culture, just consumption? the worlds imperialists? claiming high moral values then raping, killing, maiming, their way around the world?




If the statement is accurate, so be it.  I'm not going start screaming the word "racist" because I might disagree with the opinion. It's called having a free and open exchange of ideas without slandering people because the statement might not be something that's politically correct.




The problem is that its people who are under colonialism, its wars, occupations, and policies, are the ones facing the racist comments which is spread from the top of society to the rest to continue the colonial status of inferiority and sense of superiority into the population. its easy for the settlers to say that something isn't racist when its undertones most definitely are. I will agree with you on certain aspects of political correctness gone too far, certain things are ridiculous.


--------------------
TEK compendium

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDeemstar
Doctor Deemstar
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/11/12
Posts: 883
Loc: The void Flag
Last seen: 1 month, 28 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe] * 2
    #23914610 - 12/10/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There were over 300 meetings between tribal leaders, the army corps and the company. The tribe refused to sell their land.

Think of like this.

A women denies a man over 300 times, he offers her everything, money the works, she refuses simply because he's a sloppy pig.

Then he comes in with his big pipe and tries to stick in the wet spot anyway,,

Then continues to mace and beat ur entire family, Mom pops, brother, sister, grandparents, cousin, everyone.

And continues to insist he sticks his dirty pipe, in your wetspot.. and make a profit while he do it..

While standing on your ancestors graves..


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Deemstar]
    #23914640 - 12/10/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Deemstar said:
There were over 300 meetings between tribal leaders, the army corps and the company. The tribe refused to sell their land.

Think of like this.

A women denies a man over 300 times, he offers her everything, money the works, she refuses simply because he's a sloppy pig.

Then he comes in with his big pipe and tries to stick in the wet spot anyway,,

Then continues to mace and beat ur entire family, Mom pops, brother, sister, grandparents, cousin, everyone.

And continues to insist he sticks his dirty pipe, in your wetspot.. and make a profit while he do it..

While standing on your ancestors graves..






Well when you put it that way...:lolsy:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Deemstar]
    #23914660 - 12/10/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Deemstar said:
There were over 300 meetings between tribal leaders, the army corps and the company. The tribe refused to sell their land.

Think of like this.

A women denies a man over 300 times, he offers her everything, money the works, she refuses simply because he's a sloppy pig.

Then he comes in with his big pipe and tries to stick in the wet spot anyway,,

Then continues to mace and beat ur entire family, Mom pops, brother, sister, grandparents, cousin, everyone.

And continues to insist he sticks his dirty pipe, in your wetspot.. and make a profit while he do it..

While standing on your ancestors graves..






The vast majority of these tribal "concerns' in regards to land and corporate interests always boils down to the money, it's very naïve to think there's something else at work here.

Could there be an exception to the rule once in a while?  Yes, but at the end of the day, tribal leaders in the US and Canada always want a piece of the pie.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBeLove111
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/16
Posts: 80
Loc: Land of many Colors
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 3
    #23914688 - 12/10/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

^^^^ there are people in this world who still live from their values, not everyone will bend to money


--------------------
May ALL beings be happy. May ALL beings be free from suffering. May ALL beings be compassionate.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: BeLove111]
    #23914729 - 12/10/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

BeLove111 said:
^^^^ there are people in this world who still live from their values, not everyone will bend to money




These tribal leaders do it all the time, money talks and bullshit walks.

To their credit, they put on great theater with their moral high ground, they're not stupid.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThe Ecstatic
Chilldog Extraordinaire


Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 33,752
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 8 hours, 9 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23915383 - 12/11/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What a complete coincidence youve latched on to the mainstream conservative narrative on this subject.

Also amazing how the talking heads respresenting one viewpoint of the nation have a 100% correct track record.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23915529 - 12/11/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
What a complete coincidence youve latched on to the mainstream conservative narrative on this subject.

Also amazing how the talking heads respresenting one viewpoint of the nation have a 100% correct track record.




I didn't realize energy production is now a "conservative " position

:carlinorgasm:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23915591 - 12/11/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
What a complete coincidence youve latched on to the mainstream conservative narrative on this subject.

Also amazing how the talking heads respresenting one viewpoint of the nation have a 100% correct track record.




I've not even heard of this "mainstream conservative narrative on this subject".

This is my own personal experience of investing in the natural resource sector for the past several decades. There's nothing worse than waiting 2 years so the local native leadership will give the OK for the project, yet 95% of the time it always seems to get approved despite all of the original resistance.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23916095 - 12/11/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/1/dakota-access-protesters-accused-of-destroying-env/

Quote:

Those familiar with the camps near Cannon Ball, North Dakota, increasingly are distressed over the pits of human waste and garbage pockmarking the formerly pristine prairie revered by the Standing Rock Sioux as sacred ancestral land.




Quote:

“We’ve seen pictures of trenches and the garbage thrown in there. So that’s protecting the land?” Mr. Keller said. “And then the snow came in, and I’m sure it’s just a muddy mess now, because that’s river-bottom water, which is silt. It will be a mess.”

Even Standing Rock Sioux Chairman David Archambault II, who has urged protesters to come “stand with Standing Rock” against the pipeline, is disgusted with how the environmental activists living in the camps have treated the federal property.




Quote:

Before this entire movement started, that was some of the most beautiful land around,” Mr. Archambault told the news website Vice. “There was a place down there where eagles, over 100 eagles would come and land. There were game down there — deer, pheasants, elk, geese. Now, it’s occupied by people. And when masses of people come to one place, we don’t take care of it.




--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 1
    #23918543 - 12/12/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
The vast majority of these tribal "concerns' in regards to land and corporate interests always boils down to the money, it's very naïve to think there's something else at work here.

Could there be an exception to the rule once in a while?  Yes, but at the end of the day, tribal leaders in the US and Canada always want a piece of the pie.




Why are the Sioux Refusing $1.3 Billion?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineakira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman]
    #23918549 - 12/12/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:

You're not making any sense again.



you're misquoting, because gormlessness.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23918556 - 12/12/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
You missed the point that no one was saying it was on reservation land.




Really?

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Neutral on the pipeline, but not on Indian lands.




Quote:

sweeper54 said:
People not wanting a pipeline FORCED across their Reservation does = civil rights




Quote:

sudly said:
There is a land treaty these corporations are breaking and that's it.




You were one of those who got it right... yet some brain fart {partisanship?} now has you saying... but, but, no-one said that. Those examples were just from a quick look.




Except the mistake that sweeper made there, he and everyone else said Indian land/treaty/unceded


Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Do you have the ability to compare the populations of the two areas? Bismarck and the reservation? et me help since simple tasks seem beyond your willingness.

Bismarck: 61,272

Standing Rock Sioux: 8,250




Is that what you think an environmental impact assessment involves??

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Besides, as Heidi Heitkamp puts it:

Quote:

The Dakota Access oil pipeline will be completed under Donald Trump's administration, and the fight to reroute the pipeline by the Standing Rock Sioux and environmental groups was "not winnable," North Dakota Sen. Heidi Heitkamp said Monday.





.

Oh.. well.. some person said a fight was unwinnable, maybe we should all give up, roll over and allow fresh unpolluted water to become a rarer and rarer thing.

Imagine if people just gave up in all kinds of civil rights struggles that were labelled as "unwinnable".

Don't you think moving from fossil fuels to renewables makes sense? Even if you are one of those tards that think global warming is still disputed, it makes sense.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23918560 - 12/12/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure who mentioned it previously but they made the point that this protest was more about being anti fossil fuel in general. It is that too for sure. Its also about access to water in general. Its also about anger about a lack of investment in vital infrastructure. While there is great significance of this being fought by the native americans, this chimes a chord with people all over the country and world because the pollution of our planet in favour of billionaires' profits only harms us.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23918877 - 12/12/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

qman said:
The vast majority of these tribal "concerns' in regards to land and corporate interests always boils down to the money, it's very naïve to think there's something else at work here.

Could there be an exception to the rule once in a while?  Yes, but at the end of the day, tribal leaders in the US and Canada always want a piece of the pie.




Why are the Sioux Refusing $1.3 Billion?




Because they're essentially negotiating for even more!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 1
    #23919187 - 12/12/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

qman said:
The vast majority of these tribal "concerns' in regards to land and corporate interests always boils down to the money, it's very naïve to think there's something else at work here.

Could there be an exception to the rule once in a while?  Yes, but at the end of the day, tribal leaders in the US and Canada always want a piece of the pie.




Why are the Sioux Refusing $1.3 Billion?




Because they're essentially negotiating for even more!!!




is there any evidence of that? or is it just your prejudice?

yeh its the sioux who have clearly been the greedy ones...:rolleyes: Jesus, qman. white man's shit doesn't stink to you does it?

from the link..

Quote:

Unlike the barren stretch of land that encompasses the reservation, the Black Hills are green, resource-rich, and thick with the smell of Ponderosa trees. Stretching across western South Dakota to neighboring Wyoming, they’ve been a draw for tourists and investors alike. In addition to gold, timber and minerals have been extracted, reaping profits for people other than the Sioux.

Fast forward to 1980. The Supreme Court agreed with the Sioux: The land, long since settled, had been taken from them wrongfully, and $102 million was set aside as compensation. The trust’s value continues to grow well beyond $1 billion, but the Sioux have never collected.




How many decades before you accept its about the principle. What do you think their price is?

Accepting the money means accepting the "legitimacy" of the land theft as a forced sale.


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 19 hours, 43 minutes
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23919727 - 12/12/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

qman said:
The vast majority of these tribal "concerns' in regards to land and corporate interests always boils down to the money, it's very naïve to think there's something else at work here.

Could there be an exception to the rule once in a while?  Yes, but at the end of the day, tribal leaders in the US and Canada always want a piece of the pie.




Why are the Sioux Refusing $1.3 Billion?




Because they're essentially negotiating for even more!!!




is there any evidence of that? or is it just your prejudice?

yeh its the sioux who have clearly been the greedy ones...:rolleyes: Jesus, qman. white man's shit doesn't stink to you does it?

from the link..

Quote:

Unlike the barren stretch of land that encompasses the reservation, the Black Hills are green, resource-rich, and thick with the smell of Ponderosa trees. Stretching across western South Dakota to neighboring Wyoming, they’ve been a draw for tourists and investors alike. In addition to gold, timber and minerals have been extracted, reaping profits for people other than the Sioux.

Fast forward to 1980. The Supreme Court agreed with the Sioux: The land, long since settled, had been taken from them wrongfully, and $102 million was set aside as compensation. The trust’s value continues to grow well beyond $1 billion, but the Sioux have never collected.




How many decades before you accept its about the principle. What do you think their price is?

Accepting the money means accepting the "legitimacy" of the land theft as a forced sale.





"Tribal leaders are quick to point out that not only does the $1.3 billion...if distributed on a per capital basis across nine tribes, the money would soon be gone with little permanent benefit to the recipients"

"What do you think their price is"

Much higher than $1.3 billion.

"How many decades before you accept its about the principle"

Time doesn't add any legitimacy to their protest, it's about the money.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesudly
Quasar Praiser


Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 11,255
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: qman] * 2
    #23920190 - 12/12/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Some people don't want a billion dollars if it means their home, lands, water and people are put in danger.


--------------------
I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23939422 - 12/18/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Standing Rock rep impressed after meeting with Trump transition team

“I was impressed with what seems to be the Trump administration’s efforts to get in front of some issues and be inclusive of Native American issues,” Harrison said.

Harrison said he didn’t speak publicly during the event, but he did tell a member of the Trump transition team that Standing Rock officials are open to a more formalized meeting to discuss how to move forward with Dakota Access.






https://www.google.com/amp/bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/standing-rock-rep-impressed-after-meeting-with-trump-transition-team/article_185e70da-8ff0-54c3-8103-e9670a821ced.amp.html?client=safari


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly]
    #23951710 - 12/23/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23973394 - 01/01/17 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #24016091 - 01/16/17 10:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Republican lawmakers in the state introduced a bill last week in the legislature that would not hold motorists liable for negligently running over someone obstructing a roadway. The bill was introduced in response to a year of protests over a proposed pipeline near the Standing Rock Indian Reservation.

"A driver of a motor vehicle who negligently causes injury or death to an individual obstructing vehicular traffic on a public road, street, or highway may not be held liable for any damages," the bill reads. "A driver of a motor vehicle who  unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual obstructing vehicular traffic on a public road, street, or highway is not guilty of an offense."

Lawmakers told the Bismarck Tribune that the bill is needed after protesters blocked traffic during oil pipeline protests.

"It’s shifting the burden of proof from the motor vehicle driver to the pedestrian,” Rep. Keith Kempenich told the paper. "(Roads) are not there for the protesters. They’re intentionally putting themselves in danger."




http://www.10news.com/news/national/running-over-protesters-on-roadways-could-soon-be-legal-in-north-dakota

:justastonishing:


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTipote
petty crook and transvestite
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 5,410
Loc: UK/France/US
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #24048167 - 01/29/17 07:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone been following this since Trump OKed the pipeline?


--------------------
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleeeso
Str@nger
Male User Gallery
Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 554
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #24056037 - 01/31/17 10:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

01.31.17
Hoeven: Secretary of the Army Speer Directs Corps to Proceed with Easement for the Dakota Access Pipeline

WASHINGTON – Senator John Hoeven issued the following statement after speaking today with Vice President Pence and Acting Secretary of the Army Robert Speer:

“Today, the Acting Secretary of the Army Robert Speer informed us that he has directed the Army Corps of Engineers to proceed with the easement needed to complete the Dakota Access Pipeline. This will enable the company to complete the project, which can and will be built with the necessary safety features to protect the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe and others downstream.

“Building new energy infrastructure with the latest safeguards and technology is the safest and most environmentally sound way to move energy from where it is produced to where people need it.

“We are also working with the Corps, the Department of Justice, the Department of Interior and the Department of Homeland Security to secure additional federal law enforcement resources to support state and local law enforcement. On Sunday, 20 additional Bureau of Indian Affairs law enforcement officers arrived at Standing Rock to assist local authorities. Also, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribal Council has asked the protesters to leave the campsite on Corps land.

“This has been a difficult issue for all involved, particularly those who live and work in the area of the protest site, and we need to bring it to a peaceful resolution.”




https://www.hoeven.senate.gov/news/news-releases/hoeven-secretary-of-the-army-speer-directs-corps-to-proceed-with-easement-for-the-dakota-access-pipeline

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehostileuniverse
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #24059682 - 02/02/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Has anyone been following this since Trump OKed the pipeline?




Sure have, these fucking idiot protestors have destroyed and polluted the land, but you won't talk about that part, will ya?

https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/nodapl-protesters-trash-land-theyre-camping-feds-look-way/


--------------------
http://www.countdowntotrump.com




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Kratom Powder For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* A Pipeline cometh?
( 1 2 3 all )
SirTripAlot 4,047 46 02/01/12 05:46 PM
by zappaisgod
* Some highlights of the senator's NSA speech (the real reasons to protest) beatnicknick 1,146 18 02/09/06 02:57 PM
by beatnicknick
* The Keystone oil pipeline despisedicon 721 8 11/17/11 12:25 PM
by HarveyWalbanger
* North Dakota oil boom paperbackwriter 296 3 10/17/15 10:40 AM
by paperbackwriter
* Second Pemex pipeline attack = more systems disruptions The_Red_Crayon 523 2 09/12/07 01:48 PM
by zorbman
* Trump pipeline orders Skellies 114 0 01/24/17 06:16 PM
by Skellies
* South Dakota Senate passes abortion ban bill
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
wilshire 18,717 82 03/01/06 08:28 PM
by gluke bastid
* Are they building a pipeline through Afghanistan.. Senor_Doobie 1,355 11 06/14/02 04:01 AM
by Rono

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
5,075 topic views. 0 members, 10 guests and 21 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.124 seconds spending 0.016 seconds on 14 queries.