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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
#23886746 - 12/02/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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anthiawe said: therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.
The pipeline isn't on their land.
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anthiawe said: therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.
The pipeline isn't on their land.
They won't accept that, never mind it was upheld by TWO federal judges,
***It's all nonsense
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This is the kind of idiocy we are up against...
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The Dakota pipeline protests have become the frontline representation of the critical struggle against a completely out of control totalitarian power structure. Those in power cannot afford to allow this justifiable protest to continue or succeed. Geoengineering/weather warfare has now been added to the already long list of criminal assaults that have been hurled at the peaceful pipeline protesters. In the coming days and weeks, weather warfare will likely be the most deadly and effective weapon that the power structure will wield against the pieceful Dakota pipeling protesters.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/power-structure-wages-weather-warfare-against-dakota-pipeline-protesters/
It would be comical if they didn't vote... for people like Bernice and the Hildabeast
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hostileuniverse said: This is the kind of idiocy we are up against...
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The Dakota pipeline protests have become the frontline representation of the critical struggle against a completely out of control totalitarian power structure. Those in power cannot afford to allow this justifiable protest to continue or succeed. Geoengineering/weather warfare has now been added to the already long list of criminal assaults that have been hurled at the peaceful pipeline protesters. In the coming days and weeks, weather warfare will likely be the most deadly and effective weapon that the power structure will wield against the pieceful Dakota pipeling protesters.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/power-structure-wages-weather-warfare-against-dakota-pipeline-protesters/
It would be comical if they didn't vote... for people like Bernice and the Hildabeast
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
#23893131 - 12/04/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
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anthiawe said: therefore the pipelines shouldn't be built on them.
The pipeline isn't on their land.
Do you deny the long history of theft and broken treaties? anyway, go ahead and miss my point that it is irrelevant that its actually on unceded land - this affects the water supplies of millions of people besides the native american population.
Answer me this:
Why was the route of the pipeline moved South?
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
#23893153 - 12/04/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't think its irrelevant that its on unceded land since that's part of the reason so many indigenous peoples maintain the perspective of colonization and the resistance to it, as in the Dakota protests. yes the issues may have an affect on the rest of the population, but its mainly indigenous peoples trying to stop it with obstructive resistance, protecting what they see as their land and sovereign territory.
i'm not sure if youre asking me? but I don't know much about the south movement of the pipeline.
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
#23893242 - 12/04/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pipeline crossing was moved downriver of neighbouring Bismarck's water access due to a "not in my backyard"movement
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: anthiawe]
#23893496 - 12/04/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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anthiawe said: don't think its irrelevant that its on unceded land since that's part of the reason so many indigenous peoples maintain the perspective of colonization and the resistance to it, as in the Dakota protests. yes the issues may have an affect on the rest of the population, but its mainly indigenous peoples trying to stop it with obstructive resistance, protecting what they see as their land and sovereign territory.
i'm not sure if youre asking me? but I don't know much about the south movement of the pipeline.
yes, let me clarify. I dont think that the fact that its unceded is irrelevant. I mean that even if it wasn't their land, it still affects their land and everyone else downstream.
I think the resistance against colonisation is very important and didn't mean to make it seem unimportant.
and no, my post was directed to luvdemshrooms. I want him to understand that the pipeline was moved because it raised a risk to the city's water supply, so it was moved on to another community that is used to being fucked over by the state.
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] 1
#23893864 - 12/04/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tipote said: Do you deny the long history of theft and broken treaties?
As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.
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anyway, go ahead and miss my point that it is irrelevant that its actually on unceded land
As it's not on their reservation, it's immaterial.
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- this affects the water supplies of millions of people besides the native american population.
So do the thousands of other pipelines across the country. Still not on their land. Still immaterial.
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Answer me this:
Why was the route of the pipeline moved South?
My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.
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My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.
And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] 1
#23894422 - 12/04/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.
And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.
Several hundred meeting were held, standing rock declined to attend, and now they are bitching about the result.
Sounds similar to the people pissed off about Trump winning that DIDN'T vote
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My understanding is that if there is a spill, fewer people will be affected.
And the US loves to fuck the Indians so they're the ones that get to take up the A$$.
Several hundred meeting were held, standing rock declined to attend, and now they are bitching about the result.
Sounds similar to the people pissed off about Trump winning that DIDN'T vote 
The Standing Rock tribe was actually offered over $1 billion for their land but they denied it because they didn't want to see their sacred lands impacted by oil pipelines.
Seeing as they tend to leak, as has happened over 200 times since 2000 in which hundred of millions of litres of gas and oil were spilt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
Also president Obama just nullified a key DAPL permit.
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Standing Rock: US denies key permit for Dakota Access pipeline, a win for tribe https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/04/dakota-access-pipeline-permit-denied-standing-rock

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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sudly] 1
#23894627 - 12/04/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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December 5 was the day the pipeland swore to move all the camps, I hope everyone stays safe out there.
And not that it will change a single mind, but: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-violence-against-native-americans-goes-far-beyond-standing-rock/
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] 2
#23894681 - 12/04/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Army Corps Denies Easement For Dakota Access Pipeline
The pipeline is shut down and they have to find a new fucking route.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/04/504354503/army-corps-denies-easement-for-dakota-access-pipeline-says-tribal-organization
Put THAT in your peace pipe and smoke it.
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
#23894711 - 12/04/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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sweeper54 said: Army Corps Denies Easement For Dakota Access Pipeline
The pipeline is shut down and they have to find a new fucking route.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/04/504354503/army-corps-denies-easement-for-dakota-access-pipeline-says-tribal-organization
Put THAT in your peace pipe and smoke it.
And now we find out if this was really about "protecting the reservation" or just another terrorist action by environmental fuckheads
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54] 1
#23894811 - 12/04/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Woot!
This is EDIT:(un)fortunately far from over, but for now the fight with tear gas and clubs will be paused. Tonight-tomorrow could really have been a shitfest.
I meant unfortunately, haha.
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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] 1
#23894882 - 12/04/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crumist said: Woot!
This is fortunately far from over,
Did you mean "unfortunately"?
If so, I agree with you, giving in to terrorism doesn't make it go away, unfortunately
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Protecting a reservation?
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