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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23859057 - 11/22/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

photos of the water canons made front page NYT today...

i decided to buy a copy

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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23859076 - 11/22/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: eeso] * 1
    #23860239 - 11/23/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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eeso said:
this is not a protest against a pipeline as has been asserted - it's a protest against fossil fuel.



Can you back this up with anything? Sure, people make it about the larger global issue of fossil fuel consumption and global climate change.. thats understandable... but the protest is definitely over the pipeline, otherwise why would it be in North Dakota?

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How many protesters didn't use oil getting there or for their winter gear?




:facepalm:Really?? Our entire societies are dependent on fossil fuels yet you pick on some environmental activists who may or may not use some hydrocarbons for fuel instead of the massive corporations exploiting our land and our future.


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23860281 - 11/23/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860312 - 11/23/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23860313 - 11/23/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23860316 - 11/23/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
So she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.




she shouldnt have been at a peaceful demonstration?


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860328 - 11/23/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She'd be healthy if she hadn't.


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 4
    #23860585 - 11/23/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya heard it here first, folks. Shut the fuck up and obey or it's gonna cost your extremities/life


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23860693 - 11/23/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I find it impossible to feel bad for protesters who are harmed while blocking roadways, bridges, sidewalks, entrances, etc..


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23860860 - 11/23/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like you have basic problems with empathy.

these people are staying on the land, demonstrating peacefully, making music and praying. Does that stop you from getting from A to B? Is their existence an inconvenience for you? Their actions do not justify the treatment they have dealt with.

Would you be concerned if a pipeline was going through your area putting your water sources, and the water sources of millions, at risk?


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23860881 - 11/23/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have plenty of empathy, just not for inconsiderate assholes.

It's not the protesting that's the issue, it's assholes that impede others.

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The Sunday night clash began after the Standing Rock Sioux and their allies tried to remove barriers authorities had used to block access to Backwater Bridge, the Indigenous Environmental Network’s Dallas Goldtooth told The Associated Press.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/standing-rock-arm-amputation_us_5834853ee4b09b6055ff01ec

How does one 'stay on the land' while trying to remove barriers on the road/bridge?


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23861112 - 11/23/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They weren't impeding anyone like you said, they were trying to take down barriers. You should be singing their praises.  Anyone seen the pic of the chick's arm? It's pretty gnarly


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Crumist]
    #23861132 - 11/23/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trying to take down barriers on the road you said they weren't on? Or even if they were right next to the road... she brought her misery upon herself.


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23861235 - 11/23/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
I find it impossible to feel bad for protesters who are harmed while blocking roadways, bridges, sidewalks, entrances, etc..




I'll remind you of that one day when you do.

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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23861248 - 11/23/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You'll be waiting a long, long time.


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23861682 - 11/23/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I a VERY patient person.

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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: sweeper54]
    #23861725 - 11/23/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If the protestors were peaceful, they wouldn't be harmed in any way.



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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23862993 - 11/24/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
I have plenty of empathy, just not for inconsiderate assholes.

It's not the protesting that's the issue, it's assholes that impede others.

Quote:

The Sunday night clash began after the Standing Rock Sioux and their allies tried to remove barriers authorities had used to block access to Backwater Bridge, the Indigenous Environmental Network’s Dallas Goldtooth told The Associated Press.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/standing-rock-arm-amputation_us_5834853ee4b09b6055ff01ec

How does one 'stay on the land' while trying to remove barriers on the road/bridge?



the barriers on the bridge (on tribal land) were put their by authorities to prevent peaceful gathering and it prevented ambulance access while numerous people were suffering all kinds of injuries. :facepalm: A 21 year old may have lost her arm and i'm sure the extra hours she had to wait for treatment made a difference. Were attempts to remove the barrier impeding anyone except solidarity activists???

Who are they inconveniencing? Energy Transfer? Private security? Militarised police? Donald Drumpf?
The authorities are impeding the right to protest, how are you struggling with this?

They are peacefully trying to make their message heard. There is a very legitimate cause here, I noticed you ignored my question about what you would do in their situation?


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Re: Dakota pipline protest [Re: Tipote]
    #23863208 - 11/24/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In their situation I'd keep my hands off the barriers. Should be no problem for her now.


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