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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: amidogen]
    #23665543 - 09/21/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You could damage pins or mycelium that would have been pins if you re-roll.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23665559 - 09/21/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm the opposite of gentle with my cakes and havent run into bruising yet. I even give them a squeeze from time to time to see how much life they have in them. When they get spongy I throw them out.

No reason that his spray bottle would be bruising the cakes imo.

Also damaging pins is not the reason why we dont re-roll. I usually wait till I see pins forming on my cakes before birthing. Dunk and roll process doesnt harm pins.

We dont re roll a second time because your cake has been collecting airborn contaminents in that FC and you dont want to create a new mocroclimate for them to take foot in


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23665574 - 09/21/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm the opposite of gentle with my cakes and havent run into bruising yet. I even give them a squeeze from time to time to see how much life they have in them. When they get spongy I throw them out.

No reason that his spray bottle would be bruising the cakes imo.

Also damaging pins is not the reason why we dont re-roll. I usually wait till I see pins forming on my cakes before birthing. Dunk and roll process doesnt harm pins.

We dont re roll a second time because your cake has been collecting airborn contaminents in that FC and you dont want to create a new mocroclimate for them to take foot in




Alright thats a good point about the re-roll.

However yes the spray bottle will beat the shit out of cakes. IMHE it happens lol. Which is why I now use the flow master. It doesnt wash off the dry verm either.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23665590 - 09/21/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: amidogen]
    #23665603 - 09/21/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm I wonder why that may be then. Could strains possibly be coming into play here?
Maybe I just have too much verm to really tell :shrug:

Either way, not having a spray bottle knock off dry verm layer is definitely a bonus.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: amidogen]
    #23665614 - 09/21/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay I will grab a more misty-type spritzer device tomorrow at home depot - even on the mistiest setting there are definitely full drops still coming out with this one, so I've been using the lid to block that part for now :smile:

For bottom watering; one of the pins is coming out near the bottom and growing sideways, I'm concerned it will get drowned in any type of standing water. Thoughts?

Edit: Is it too early to tell what strain these are? My spores arrived unlabeled except for being cubensis. They are apparently either "Chile, Costa Rica, Guadalajara, or Texas" strain.

Edit Edit: Nevermind, I found the labels on the others. These should be the "Texas" strain.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23665658 - 09/21/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Bottom watering will definitely help at this stage, you dont have to worry about drowning the little guys they love it.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23667325 - 09/22/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Here is a picture of this morning after 2 hours of bottom watering. I soaked the dishes over night in some iso/water to make sure they were sanitary, and put the dish back inside the SGFC during those 2 hours, which I hope was the right thing. Re-cut some new foil and folded back the edges before I left this morning for work.

I put the A/C in the house at 74 and left the door slightly ajar, but the vent in the shroomy room is closed and there are no fans running. RR says natural room current/draft should be enough and the open door should prevent stale air, right?

The other cakes are starting to show some light signs of bruising and one of the pins has some brusing on it too, so I'm going to make sure to get that more gentle mister from Home Depot today before I get home. I have been pretty attentive in the last 24 hours so I'm frowny faced about why the other cakes are bruising. Is it more frequently caused by thick water droplets from the mister hitting things, or dryness?


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23667573 - 09/22/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your doing great dude. yeah your cakes will most likely stop bruising when you get a better mister.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23667645 - 09/22/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Are you bottom watering outside your fc?
You will have to watch amd mist more frequently that way.

What I like to do is grab my jar lids and some foil and mold a piece of foil to the lid. This will create a perfect little tub for your cake to sit in and you can fill it up whenever your cakes drink up the water.
Now your cakes can enjoy the benifits of the SGFC and bottom watering :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23667806 - 09/22/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I did the bottom watering inside the FC from 5-7am this morning before going to work. The cakes got to spend the last 2 hours of their dark cycle on individual dishes getting their toes wet.

That jar lids idea sounds great and I'm gonna get to building them. I do have some questions/concerns:

How often should I be bottom watering? Just 2 hours a day or permanently until harvesting?  Should I refill with water every time I notice the water gone? For 3 of the cakes this should be fine but there is that one in the image above with the pin/fruit body growing sideways out from the bottom. I am afraid making a tub will crush him, and so far he's the only pin on that cake!


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23667897 - 09/22/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I did, and definetaly wont the third time


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: spongegar]
    #23668088 - 09/22/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your mushrooms will grow and bend around obsticals no need to worry about that. I've even had them grow into the walls of my fc and tip my cakes over haha. Shrooms gunna shroom.
As soon as I see pins growing I start bottom watering and let my cakes sit in water untill harvest. Change or refill the water once a day as needed. (Somedays my cakes are thirstier than others)
Continue misting as usual.
After harvest wait untill you see pins before starting bottom watering again, otherwise you run the risk of waterlogged or drowned cakes. As long as you have pins youre fine. I've noticed much bigger fruits since I started bottom watering they love it!


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23668166 - 09/22/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting. Aren't bacteria and other contaminations a problem with all that standing water?


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: Wienerwoods]
    #23668176 - 09/22/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thats why you change it once a day if it hasnt been used up by the cakes.


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23668513 - 09/22/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Here they are in their new tub-within-a-tub homes, right after a good mist/fan. So yeah, those worries about that one were misplaced as when I got home with the new mister from HD you suggested, it had basically taken a 90 degree turn up! It may have been affected by me putting the SGFC beneath the light today as opposed to it being a few feet away on the shelf previously.

Wow, this Flo Master is such a difference from the Zepp sprayer I was using. I feel much more confident getting the cakes properly moisturized.

I don't see any more pins forming yet, but quite a bit of growth from those already in play. I think the bottom watering from this morning really made them happy.

This is day 7 since the cakes were dunk/rolled and moved to the SGFC. I had expected more pins but now hopefully I can keep them more moisture happy!


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23668543 - 09/22/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:cool::thumbup:


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23669130 - 09/22/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Should I be pulling these ones with open veils? The big ones aren't ready yet, right?


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
    #23669180 - 09/22/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah top middle looks ready for a twist and pull. Check under the cap for gills just to be sure


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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23670249 - 09/23/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay! I gave the foil of the mini-tub a wipe with a iso soaked cloth to clean it, then ran it under some water to clean off the iso and put them back.



Did a twist and pull on 2 of the ones with open caps; I believe if I was going for max potency these are a little late? Since this is my first grow, my intent is to enjoy the first flush fresh, if timing permits me to harvest by Saturday evening. In the future I will be going the food dehydrator route. As such, I took these two and put them in a folded up paper towel in an unsealed plastic container in the drawer of the fridge. Saturday awaits!



I'm guessing that by the time I get home in 10 hours, the big ones will have broken veils. It has been over 24 hours since any new pins have formed... is this all I can expect from this first flush?


Most of the pins that formed in the second half of the week so far have stalled and I'm guessing are aborts... Is it worth harvesting/keeping these or should they be tossed?



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