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TheDarkMatterz
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First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated!
#23660999 - 09/20/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all,
Been lurking here for a while and after getting some spores from one of the sponsored vendors I decided to try my hand.
It is currently week 6 and I am fruiting but have a few pictures of the earlier stages to give a kind of log.
I used 1/2 pint wide mouth jars and bought the generic #1 seller of horticulture vermiculite off amazon. I used Bobs Red Mill BRF. I also added in the teaspoon of gypsum to my verm/brf/water mixture. Used a 15 PSI PC for about an hour to sterilize 4 jars.
After 3-4 days, I had white fluffy growth near inoculation spots. Huzzah! http://imgur.com/Vrmmyr1
The colonizing phase took about 20 days(first image), after which I gave another full 7 days to consolidate. (second image)
http://imgur.com/DnAZZsS
http://imgur.com/RTbkitG
Before I decided to birth my cakes, there was already knots forming near the top the substrate, and I saw a one or two of the "brown worms" starting (I forget what they are called now, of course). While wiping off the dry verm layer before the dunk, I think many of these knots were scraped off... Should I have been more gentle?
Here I got a little lazy and went with the closest most readily available tub for SGFC - aquamarine blue and a little on the small side, but I did only have 4 cakes. After a day with only indirect sunlight that I was not happy enough with, I bought a 6500k 12" grow light and am giving it a 12 on 12 off cycle. I live in a fairly humid climate (over 75% on average) but I am a little concerned (see: novice) about RH and I chose not to get a Hygrometer as there seemed to be a certain level for disdain of them and trust in a SGFC built to spec.
http://imgur.com/sUYXMVn
It has been 4 days in the chamber and I am getting pins on the sides that face the other cakes (the microclimate rich side) and I have had no problems yet with contam (I am fervently washing my hands with rubbing alcohol before going into the room, wearing a surgical mask which I'm not sure helps but DEFINITELY placebos me into being happier, which i'm sure my spawnlings can sense.)
Anything you see that I could do better would help! Unfortunately I work 8-6 so they go that length without any misting or fanning but other than that I do it ever 4 hours or so based on moisture content.
http://imgur.com/sdSOCKj
http://imgur.com/pRM7Gnu
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23661063 - 09/20/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks good, nice work! I would get an analog hygrometer, 10 bucks and will put your mind at rest and help monitor your humidity. I would fold the foil smaller to make it almost the same exact size as the cake...will encourage better FAE and therefore better pinsets.
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: Peteyboy]
#23661301 - 09/20/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got it! I was also wondering if it was too much handling to scrape away the pieces of perlite that are on the foil? I haven't touched the cakes at all since putting them in the SGFC, only misted and fanned.
-------------------- “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23661339 - 09/20/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The myc is actually really resistant to contaminates right now, just put some gloves on wipe with iso and handle gently be especially careful of any pins
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: Peteyboy]
#23662285 - 09/20/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Uh oh...!!!!
I came home to signs that all 4 cakes have got pins... But, while cleaning off the foil and re-folding it smaller, I noticed the underside has a very wispy white growth on all 4...
Is this BBC (big bad cobweb) going to ruin my day? 
Sorry for cell phone cam pics.
http://imgur.com/a/dNCgg
-------------------- “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear
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amidogen
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23662296 - 09/20/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 10:18 AM)
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: amidogen]
#23662340 - 09/20/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those two are the bottoms of a couple cakes... It is just beginning if it is cobweb. But definitely looks different than any of the mycelium I have seen thus far...

These are the cakes with pins showing.
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23662440 - 09/20/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 10:18 AM)
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: amidogen]
#23662508 - 09/20/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I actually did just that but I think I was over-reacting after looking at some more pics of BBC I went back and put in new foil that was more fit to the cakes to prevent water pooling in the folds of the foil I previously had, which was kind've slick with soaked verm that had gotten misted off. I will check back in several hours and see what it looks like and update with some hopefully clearer pics.
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: Peteyboy]
#23662527 - 09/20/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Peteyboy said: Looks good, nice work! I would get an analog hygrometer, 10 bucks and will put your mind at rest and help monitor your humidity. I would fold the foil smaller to make it almost the same exact size as the cake...will encourage better FAE and therefore better pinsets.
A hygrometer will do the opposite of putting your mind at rest and will ultimately cause you to do stupid things to your fc. I highly reccomend against the use of all hygeometers analog or digital for all noobs growing cubes.
As for the cobweb Im 99.99% sure that what you have there is not cobweb.
Keep it up youre doing fine
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: Peteyboy]
#23662551 - 09/20/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said:. I would fold the foil smaller to make it almost the same exact size as the cake...will encourage better FAE and therefore better pinsets.
No the purpose of smaller foil is too allow moisture evaporating off the perlite too rise up the sides of the cakes. The holes is the SGFC is for FEA.
Op upload your photos too the shroomery next time. Most members wont click off site links.
And thats not cobweb on those. But the cakes look real dry dude.
Also you dont have too wear gloves with ISO too handle the cakes. Just wash your hands if your worried. Besides the only time you need too handle them is for harvesting then the dunk and roll.
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Edited by JacobStorm (09/20/16 06:11 PM)
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ComebackKid
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: JacobStorm]
#23662557 - 09/20/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good point! They are a little on the dry sode. Hopefully these pics were taken right after work and before a good mistin
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: ComebackKid]
#23664276 - 09/21/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here they are this morning. The moisture content definitely seems to be on the low side - this being my first grow I have no experience to compare it with. I doubled the amount of sprays from the mister and evened out the Perlite some which had gotten a half inch or so higher on one side of the tub for some reason.
There were no signs of that Cobweb this morning. More pins showing now, though!
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23664794 - 09/21/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah you don't have cobweb dude. I would fold the corners of your foil under the cake. Keep this updated for us ya? How many inches of perlite do you have in there? Can we see a picture of your SGFC?
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: JacobStorm]
#23665015 - 09/21/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It has been oppressively hot down here recently and being as I had my AC set to 76, I went home at lunch to give the fellas a spritz. Of course, it was dry looking except for certain places on the foil.

More pins showing! I had done a lot more research on the first half of this tek so I havent delved into pin formation/size and what those factors are pointing to in detail, any tips greatly appreciated!!
Here is my setup

This little guy has got a way to go to catch up to his friend

I do have a concern about one of the cakes, though, which is showing what I believe to be blue bruising. What do you all think?
-------------------- “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23665065 - 09/21/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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First off, LOVE the batman teddy. Keeping guard is he?  Second that blue bruising is from you handling it or the spray bottle your using is beating the shit out of your cakes. I use this http://www.homedepot.com/p/RL-Flo-Master-4-pt-Hand-Sprayer-56HD/100164531 Its 7 bucks and is like baby fingers on your cakes  Do you have a fan running in the room with your SGFC? Or is the A/C in there with it? If so that will definitely dry out your tub and cakes!
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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TheDarkMatterz
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: JacobStorm]
#23665258 - 09/21/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The room has no fan running. The first 3 days I left the window open for added ambient humidity and had the door that leads to the hallway open - to avoid stale air.
Today I closed the window and left an air purifier running in the room on low because I thought it was too much hotter in that room than the other rooms but, again I didn't want the air to get stale. I have the A/C vent in that room closed. It was much cooler when I went in there this afternoon, but, yeah, the blue bruising was there.
And, yes, I just went with my gut on all those decisions. I profess no degree of sense, common or otherwise.
I have heard about putting ice cubes on the perlite to release moisture over time if you are going to have long bouts (8+ hours) with no misting... Is that a thing?
-------------------- “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear
Edited by TheDarkMatterz (09/21/16 02:42 PM)
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23665297 - 09/21/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess you just have to mist more then. I never heard that about the ice cubes, it sounds interesting. I can see tho if you put too many youd come home too a water mess but that would only hydrate the perlite not the cakes.
So you can do whats called bottom watering. You would put your cakes in a small dish of water for like two hours too let them absorb some water.
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23665334 - 09/21/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fully submerged or just the bottom part? I shouldn't re-roll in verm afterwards, right?
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Re: First Grow - BRF // SGFC - Help Appreciated! [Re: TheDarkMatterz]
#23665538 - 09/21/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 10:20 AM)
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