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Next time just get a campsite up at cardiff by the sea,just ask if there r any cancellations ,open spots,that way u don't have to make a reservation which is like ten more dollars Pipes is a good breakfast spot across the tracks
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The5thElement
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23672633 - 09/23/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm just irked because I've said all this stuff, and buddies yet to even acknowledge anything I've said. My "treatment", that I'm describing is the only thing that will work; and I well explain it for anyone who happens to read this in the future.
Bed bugs can get into the tiniest of places, "spots"that most people wouldn't even bother thinking of looking. They are drawn towards co2,a gas that is emitted from things such as dry ice, or our breath when we exhale. To further my first point, heat treatment is useless because buddy is never going to find them all. Never, ever. It's not going to happen. Bombing buddies house, with pesticides or whatever doesn't always work either according to other people's findings.
So how do you get rid of a pest that can very easily conceal itself, not to mention very good at suriving most temps that people live in. Well we know that they are drawn towards their prey, we also know that they reproduce only after "feeding". I was wrong in my past comment about them laying eggs once a week, its actually once a day but again, only after feeding...
If you make it impossible for the bugs to bite you, they can not reproduce and lay more eggs. If you have DE spread all around your bedroom (where the bugs will be drawn to, because that's where their meal is)- withing two days of coming in contact with DE, the bugs die. It's that simple.
You need a bed elevated off the ground, you need cups under their legs; you need Bed encasments, and you need DE to kill the bugs. You can get all that shit, well under 200-300$.
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Yeah OP you'd probably do well to listen to this guy ^^^^ he sounds like he knows what he's talking about having dealt with it personally I've heard about the cups and bed encasements and DE while researching as well. I have known a few people who have gotten bed bugs and it was always a nightmare scenario. Most/all of them ended up moving out I'm pretty sure after fighting with it for a long time. I know pesticides don't work, it never gets them all. I know for sure you can't go half-assed on bed bugs. From everything I have read about them.. they are one of the hardest infestations to get rid of. Don't take it lightly. If you plan on staying there I'd listen to the dude that has dealt with it and gotten rid of them successfully
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Shroomism]
#23672796 - 09/24/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Best of luck OP. I have also heard heat treatment is the only sure thing, but look into diatomaceous earth as well. Once upon a time my neighbors who shared a wall with my house got them, we had the same landlord so we found out, we put this stuff everywhere, sprayed poison everywhere multiple times a day, moved everything away from the wall, and tbh I moved out shortly after, but it was enough to keep me from getting infested myself till then. I barely slept though.
Bed bugs are my worst nightmare. I can deal with everything else. I dodge cockroaches the size of human babies walking down the street at night and I know they're in the basement of my building and I spent the last week essentially pest proofing my apartment, but if the building gets bed bugs then idk how the fuck that's gonna get dealt with because it's a fairly large apartment building and the cost of heat treatment has to be a complete nightmare. Only option would be to move the fuck out, and I would in a heart beat.
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I'm listening to you man my apologies if I didnt respond to you ive definitely been reading everyone's input. The debate was on whether to spring for the heater or not. Alot of people are saying the heat is the only thing that works, youre saying fuck the heat. I've already started doing what you told me with the traps and DE though. The room is straight coated with DE. Im doing the best I can with what limited resources I have right now.
Trying to remain optimistic at this point.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23673084 - 09/24/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your gonna have to pull the trimming out and pull up the edges of the carpet if you wanna do it right. If your thorough you probably wont need a heat treatment.
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Quote:
The5thElement said: I'm just irked because I've said all this stuff, and buddies yet to even acknowledge anything I've said. My "treatment", that I'm describing is the only thing that will work; and I well explain it for anyone who happens to read this in the future.
Don't worry bud, he did the same thing to me, that's why I kept posting multiple times in this thread. I think he's just bombarded by all the information he's getting because it's so contradictory, he just doesn't know who to believe.
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They are drawn towards co2,a gas that is emitted from things such as dry ice, or our breath when we exhale. To further my first point, heat treatment is useless because buddy is never going to find them all.
Heat would spread everywhere through the house, if done properly. You are supposed to get several heat fans for one house, and set them to 150 degrees, and leave them for several hours until they reach at least 130 in the entire house. Professionals use industrial-grade heaters and they also take temperatures of difficult-to-reach crevices and cracks as the heating is going on.
I will say, I used diatomaceous earth that was in spray form (it even advertised that it killed bed bugs), and it didn't help in my case. Perhaps it's in a different form that makes them easier to kill if it's in a powder.
The department of entomology will always say heat is the best way: http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/pdf/bb-heat1.pdf
Edited by Crystal G (09/24/16 07:02 PM)
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675020 - 09/24/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bombarded is an understatement. Finally went to town on the room, pulled up the carpets and it had beautiful hardwood floors underneath which is rad.
Everything is out of the room wrapped tight in black trash bags ready to cook in 90 degree weather tomorrow. DE lined the room, and I reapplied poison. I have the cups and the mattress cover for when I get a bed in there.
Has anyone heard of nuvan strips? Someone recommended I throw them into the bags and in the room. They are pricey though. Might just rent the heater anyway. The majority of the bugs were on the bed, box spring, and on the stuff under the bed which was trashed, but I'm sure they made it elsewhere.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675051 - 09/24/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: Everything is out of the room wrapped tight in black trash bags ready to cook in 90 degree weather tomorrow.
Are you putting it inside a hot car? 90 degrees itself isn't hot enough to kill bed bugs. They die around 120F.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675150 - 09/24/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was under the impression the black bags would act as a sort of greenhouse and get much hotter on the inside of the bag. I'll see what I can fit in my old beater civic.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675156 - 09/24/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: I was under the impression the black bags would act as a sort of greenhouse and get much hotter on the inside of the bag. I'll see what I can fit in my old beater civic.
Where do you live? I wouldn't try it unless your car was guaranteed to get hot. Because you don't want to end up with a bed bug infested car. If you live in Washington or Seattle or something, I wouldn't try it. But if you're closer to Arizona or New Mexico it would definitely work putting your stuff in the car on a hot summer day.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675163 - 09/24/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm in OC. Someone told me 90-100 by Monday.
Edit- this is also why I was asking about the strips. Im down to apend an extra $30 if it is a guarantee. The $175 heat tent is tiny and will take forever
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675172 - 09/24/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: I'm in OC. Someone told me 90-100 by Monday.
Edit- this is also why I was asking about the strips. Im down to apend an extra $30 if it is a guarantee. The $175 heat tent is tiny and will take forever
90-100 is not nearly hot enough to kill bed bugs. When I had my infestation in Philly it was around 105 degrees on a daily basis in the summer. I keep showing you sources that say that they need around 120F heat to die.
You need to buy a thermometer, and take the temperature inside of your car first for about an hour or two during peak daytime hours. If the thermometer says it's above 120, it's okay to put your stuff inside the car. Otherwise you will end up with bed bugs inside your car.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675181 - 09/24/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Word. I read your sources, multiple people told me black bags in the sun including pest control company. Just doing what I can with the resources I have right now. Hopefully the car gets hotter
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675194 - 09/24/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: Word. I read your sources, multiple people told me black bags in the sun including pest control company. Just doing what I can with the resources I have right now. Hopefully the car gets hotter
You need to make sure the inside of the bags are going to reach at least 120F. This is simple logic. Otherwise it's not going to work.
So, you need to take the temperature inside the bag as it's under the sun. If it doesn't get hot enough, then you need to take the temperature inside the car FIRST, and THEN if it reaches 120, you put the bags inside the car.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675204 - 09/24/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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For anything cloth, you should throw them in a cycle in the dryer. That will guarantee they will get hot enough to kill bed bugs.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675212 - 09/24/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Word will do. Also heard stories of people rigging up ducting from their dryer to all of their stuff. Sounds ghetto fab but makes sense to me.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675261 - 09/24/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Appreciate everyone helping by the way. Felt really ungrateful when you guys started pointing out my lack of responses. But it's mainly stress and I'm on a phone right now because my computer and router is bagged up.
Between these bed bugs, my car being stolen by mexicans, work, 12 units of college, staying opiate free, junkie ex gf constantly trying to hassle me, things have been crazy.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23675335 - 09/24/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Best of luck man, really. I forget sometimes life get's crazy, and things get thrown at you so fast it's hard to keep track of everything. So i understand the delay in reply. My bad for being impatient.
Crystal I didn't know previously that you actually had delt with bb's before, I had assumed you just read about heat treatment or something, that and from what I had read in the past I believed heat treatment to be useless. If it worked thats good to know.
Bb's suck man, I wish I could say more. It's an uphill battle the entire way.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23675350 - 09/24/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In 100 degree heat, a car sitting in direct sunlight can easily reach 135+ after a few hours, especially the area around the dash. You know that whole thing about never leave your baby/pet in the car on a hot day, yeah.. that's why. I'd be too worried about putting bedbug infested shit in my car though. If you do triple bag that shit and seal it fucking well.
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