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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23670766 - 09/23/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I havent seen any issues outside of the one room, how important do you think it is to heat every room in the house?




Well, they can run from one room to the other. Especially since they can crawl through electrical outlets and like to hide in there.

So at the very least I would heat at least 3 areas at the same time, which includes any rooms that are right next to the affected room, as well as the hallway.

Getting 1 heat fan from that company should cost roughly $99 a piece, but maybe if you ask for 3, you can ask for some special discount and they will let you rent all 3 for $200.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: The5thElement]
    #23670770 - 09/23/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Also heating you house is pointless, you will not be able to kill them that way. They can live in extream hot and cold temperatures.




No they can't, bed bugs die off at 120 degrees. Hence why biologists and bed bug exterminators use heat treatment and set the house to 130 degrees with special heater fans.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671050 - 09/23/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ive been given so much contradictory advice over this. :shrug:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23671084 - 09/23/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been given so much contradictory advice over this. :shrug:




I've given you plenty of videos, Discovery Channel says heat treatment is the only way to successfully get rid of bed bugs.

You have to be careful with a lot of products people are pushing on random sites and forums on the internet, because a lot of them are paid sponsors for a certain company, and they are paid to push some kind of pesticide or product for bed bug treatment.

At 5:50 the biologist/entomologist says "Bed bugs are susceptible to temperatures over 120 degrees Fahrenheit. Once they are exposed to those temperatures, they die very quickly. So people are using heat to treat bed bug problems. That will kill all stages of bed bugs, those that are walking around and the eggs."




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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671122 - 09/23/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

cool thanks I appreciate the advice. I never doubted you was just pointing out how much contradictory and or misinformation is out there on the subject.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23671281 - 09/23/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

I've spent some time in Phoenix. I've never been so uncomfortably hot and freezing cold in my life. :lol:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23671292 - 09/23/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been given so much contradictory advice over this. :shrug:




Dude it takes work. It is not fucking easy at all. And 99% percent of the time you don't even see them. It takes diligence. That's why at times just burning the house to the ground and building another seems easier. Heat kills them. Crystal has posted some videos that some I have watched. To nip it in the bud early. Good luck it isn't easy.

Probably because they've never actually had to deal with them. I have a 200$ steamer that cost me 200 bucks that for the life of me I have no other uses for. Just kinda sits there. :shrug:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23671325 - 09/23/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I recommend using DEET and/or Picaridin to spray down your furniture (especially your bed) and the walls around your furniture where the wall meets the floor. You can buy both as equipment to spray down camping equipment. Spray down your furniture with either/both, along with the walls around your bed where the wall meets the floor, and you should solve the problem. DEET is a solvent though so make sure it doesn't dissolve any of your fabrics first.

Bedbugs were originally nearly eliminated by DDT spraying. Pesticides are highly effective in bedbug control.

You'll need to get them off of your clothing too, of course. You can use Picaridin safely on clothing though, so you might consider spraying down all your clothes inside and out in it.

If you don't have any pets, you can also use Permethrin, but it's toxic to cats and several other kinds of pets.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: nooneman]
    #23671365 - 09/23/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My clothes I went to a laundry mat. I have my own washer and dryer but there relatively shitty. I got them for free.  Toss a thermometer in as well. You'll get a vague idea of how hot it gets. I think I got mine at Walmart for like 3 bucks.

By no means is it actual scientific data. But it'll give you a vague idea of the ballpark your in. If your in a hot state put a bag of clothes in your car. Cars can easily get to the kill zone but that's depending where you live.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: nooneman]
    #23671418 - 09/23/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You'll need to get them off of your clothing too, of course. You can use Picaridin safely on clothing though, so you might consider spraying down all your clothes inside and out in it.

If you don't have any pets, you can also use Permethrin, but it's toxic to cats and several other kinds of pets.




You can't possibly be serious can you... talking about spraying your clothes with toxic pesticides? :facepalm: Inhaling that stuff is potentially neurotoxic, I mean that's how they kill ants and other bugs, and I can imagine it would irritate the hell out of your skin too.

Why on earth would you do that when throwing your clothes in a cycle in the dryer is guaranteed to kill them.

OP you shouldn't listen to this advice. If bed bugs were so easily killed by pesticides, then they wouldn't be almost impossible to get rid of. You could just spray a few corners and you'd be able to get rid of them easily. This is not the case however.

Ants are easy to manage with pesticides. Bed bugs are not.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671443 - 09/23/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya I don't really get what he's talking about. There are plenty of sprays that aren't straight up pesticides. And as I said I just bought a steamer and used that on my clothes than washed them at a laundry mat that had industrial dryers. It takes work I spent about 2 weeks just doing the same process over and over. It's a fucking pain in the ass.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23671667 - 09/23/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Check out this documentary when you have time OP, it's super gross.

Says at 15:00 bedbugs are incredibly difficult to kill. To wipe them out using today's pesticides, you must spray every single bed bug individually. If you miss even one pregnant female, the colony will recovery. That is why pesticides don't work.

Personally, I think the government should subsidize bed bug treatment, or it should operate on a sliding scale basis based on income... because otherwise, the problem is going to spread and get worse in this country if the only effective treatment remains thousands of dollars. And I'd wager to say that bed bugs affect low-income urban people more often than other types of people.



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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671790 - 09/23/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you couldnt pay me to watch that video. Im already traumatized by seeing google images. :puke:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671806 - 09/23/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Check out this documentary when you have time OP, it's super gross.

Says at 15:00 bedbugs are incredibly difficult to kill. To wipe them out using today's pesticides, you must spray every single bed bug individually. If you miss even one pregnant female, the colony will recovery. That is why pesticides don't work.

Personally, I think the government should subsidize bed bug treatment, or it should operate on a sliding scale basis based on income... because otherwise, the problem is going to spread and get worse in this country if the only effective treatment remains thousands of dollars. And I'd wager to say that bed bugs affect low-income urban people more often than other types of people.






Ya I couldn't afford afford professional help. But God bless the internet where you can learn anything. Problem solved. It takes a lot of work. It is by no means easy. :shrug:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23671924 - 09/23/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is that steamer that you used a garment or clothing steamer? Similar to this but larger? If so you could probably use it to iron some of your shirts and other clothes.

https://www.amazon.com/OPOLAR-Portable-Handheld-Powerful-Capacity/dp/B01EVEBWOI/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1474678162&sr=8-38&keywords=high+temperature+heater


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671946 - 09/23/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You'll need to get them off of your clothing too, of course. You can use Picaridin safely on clothing though, so you might consider spraying down all your clothes inside and out in it.

If you don't have any pets, you can also use Permethrin, but it's toxic to cats and several other kinds of pets.




You can't possibly be serious can you... talking about spraying your clothes with toxic pesticides? :facepalm: Inhaling that stuff is potentially neurotoxic, I mean that's how they kill ants and other bugs, and I can imagine it would irritate the hell out of your skin too.

Why on earth would you do that when throwing your clothes in a cycle in the dryer is guaranteed to kill them.

OP you shouldn't listen to this advice. If bed bugs were so easily killed by pesticides, then they wouldn't be almost impossible to get rid of. You could just spray a few corners and you'd be able to get rid of them easily. This is not the case however.

Ants are easy to manage with pesticides. Bed bugs are not.



Campers regularly spray down their clothes with Picadirin. That's it's primary use. Other camping equipment that can withstand it and not dissolve commonly gets sprayed down with DEET. DEET, picadirin and Permethrin are all sold for direct application to the skin as insect repellents. I assure you, people have these chemicals on their clothes and themselves all the time with no bad effects.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
    #23671956 - 09/23/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, heating you house is going to do nothing. I've actually given you first hand experience about this and no comments on that OP?
OK goodluck with following G's advice, it seems like shes the direction to follow even though I've literally experienced having bed bugs, and getting rid of them. I'm living in the same place and haven't had anysigns of them for over a year and a half.

Best of luck, really.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671963 - 09/23/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Me and this 26 year old japanese bitch rented a fucking cheap motel room down in Imperial beach a while back and we got fucking eaten alive by bedbugs. :awedisgust:


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23671966 - 09/23/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that steamer that you used a garment or clothing steamer? Similar to this but larger? If so you could probably use it to iron some of your shirts and other clothes.

https://www.amazon.com/OPOLAR-Portable-Handheld-Powerful-Capacity/dp/B01EVEBWOI/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1474678162&sr=8-38&keywords=high+temperature+heater




I don't iron fuck all but ya basically.  I build houses so my clothes are never really an issue. That is its primary function I believe.


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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: The5thElement]
    #23672192 - 09/23/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok, heating you house is going to do nothing. I've actually given you first hand experience about this and no comments on that OP?
OK goodluck with following G's advice, it seems like shes the direction to follow even though I've literally experienced having bed bugs, and getting rid of them. I'm living in the same place and haven't had anysigns of them for over a year and a half.

Best of luck, really.




I told him that diatomaceous earth powder is the second best option if heat treatment wasn't available or financially feasible.


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