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OhMrJohnson
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So basically as far as I can tell this is the only true solution to the bed-bug problem
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661380 - 09/20/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think you need to catch them before they spread everywhere, otherwise it's an uphill battle.
My son's bed had bed bugs a while back but it wasn't bad yet. There were only a few spots on one side of the mattress that had evidence of their presence and I think we only actually saw a couple of the bugs themselves. We trashed the sheets, rug and bed, cleaned/vacuumed the room really well and haven't seen any signs of them returning.
No idea where they came from. We don't really take in second hand furniture and he doesn't really go to other people's houses to bring them back from their house. I thought initially he may have brought them home from school but that seems like a long shot as well. From what I read they don't hitch a ride on your body so his backpack would've had to catch an STD from another kid's backpack.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23661403 - 09/20/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: It makes a difference, not directly, but its way harder to treat a place when it's messy.
I remember when I was living through the infestation and the other occupants of the house were refusing to get the heat treatment even if we all split the costs.
We cleaned the house, pulled the curtains, threw all my clothes and sheets and curtains in trash bags and went to the laundromat to wash and dry all of them. We also sterilized all the floors and everything we owned that wasn't able to be put in the dryer with alcohol to kill any bed bug eggs, moved everything that was recently sterilized or heat-treated with the dryer into one of those plastic tupperware boxes and sealed them, and we even sprayed an additional coating of diatomaceous earth spray on top of all the floors after we finished wiping everything down with alcohol.
That night after we had spent all day and night doing everything and I crawled into bed exhausted, I still got two bed bug bites.
All it does is delay the repopulation process for bed bugs. It might kill some, but definitely not all, and within a few weeks you're back to your original problem. A female bed bugs lays one egg per day, so if you have thousands of bed bugs, they repopulate again in no time.
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OhMrJohnson said: So basically as far as I can tell this is the only true solution to the bed-bug problem

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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Shroomslip]
#23661421 - 09/20/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I think you need to catch them before they spread everywhere, otherwise it's an uphill battle.
My son's bed had bed bugs a while back but it wasn't bad yet. There were only a few spots on one side of the mattress that had evidence of their presence and I think we only actually saw a couple of the bugs themselves. We trashed the sheets, rug and bed, cleaned/vacuumed the room really well and haven't seen any signs of them returning.
No idea where they came from. We don't really take in second hand furniture and he doesn't really go to other people's houses to bring them back from their house. I thought initially he may have brought them home from school but that seems like a long shot as well. From what I read they don't hitch a ride on your body so his backpack would've had to catch an STD from another kid's backpack. 
Yes, they do hitch rides on your body or your luggage.
This is true with all infestations. But if you only see a couple, it means hundreds or thousands are living there. The entire time I was living through an infestation, I only saw and killed maybe 5 or 6, yet I ended up with hundreds of bites all over my body over time.
The same is true for ants and roaches. If you see 1, it's likely thousands are living somewhere. If you see a dozen, it means millions are living somewhere close by.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23661430 - 09/20/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My bro was a driver and protection for a female escort. Was I all kinds of shady hotels and brought them home.
1) your clothes and bedding put in a garbage bag and out out side in the sun for a few days. Heat kills them. Or high temp wash and dry. 2) for acute areas, get the highest concentration of isopropyl alcohol you can find and put in a spray bottle. Hit all the crevices of your bed frame and nooks and crannies, kills on contact 3) get the powder stuff from home depot and follow directions, don't use too much cause you can push them all through your domicile 4) if you get an exterminator, DO NOT TELL THEM YOUR PREVIOUS REMOVAL ACTIONS....THEY WILL NOT GUARANTEE THE ELIMINATION OF THE BED BUGS. They will tell you some BS about using too much product and pushing them all through the house via electric sockets and other corridors .
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23661437 - 09/20/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I forgot about the living beside other people issue. I actually had to move out of a apt block because it was so infested I literally couldn't get rid of them. They just crawled through the cracks and vents and resettled no matter what I did. I even threw out my couchs and bagged everything up, got a bedframe and spread diamateceous earth all around it. They still found a way. Shit there must of been 4 or 5 futile attempts before I finally gave up and left. Luckily I was single at the time so it wasn't that hard. Cant imagine how bad it'd get with a family.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23661449 - 09/20/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They may hitch a ride on your clothing. I meant they're not like lice and don't target your hair or anything like that.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661459 - 09/20/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To answer certain questions: its not my lack of cleenliness. I'm anal about bathing/laundry. I live in a large house my family has owned for decades I can't just leave. I really hope its contained just to my room. I slept in the guest room when I found out and had no problems, but who knows maybe I just infected it.
Between the mattress and box spring seemed like ground zero. I examined my clothes and other areas didnt see much, but I realize everything probably needs to be burned.
This has been one of those 'if it rains it pours' type months.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: I forgot about the living beside other people issue. I actually had to move out of a apt block because it was so infested I literally couldn't get rid of them. They just crawled through the cracks and vents and resettled no matter what I did. I even threw out my couchs and bagged everything up, got a bedframe and spread diamateceous earth all around it. They still found a way. Shit there must of been 4 or 5 futile attempts before I finally gave up and left. Luckily I was single at the time so it wasn't that hard. Cant imagine how bad it'd get with a family.
Ugh, that reminds me of another place I lived that was infested with cockroaches. This is the type of neighborhood where people live on Section 8 housing, and the city dumpster was placed right behind our house.
Our landlord was a slumlord who refused to get proper pest control, instead she hired her nephew to do a cheap job of spraying that any one of us could do. A proper exterminator would have gone underneath the floorboards or crawled under the house to spray under there, and not just sprayed the surface. We could have totally sued her.
Personally, I think even if she sprayed with a professional exterminator it wouldn't have made any difference. The infestation wasn't there when I initially moved in, I think it was coming from one of the neighbors whose apartments lived right next to our home. So if you're living in close quarters with a next door neighbor who is unkempt or keeps piles of old trash around the house, it makes no difference how many times you get your house treated.
I ended up moving out, and I asked my old roommates how the situation was, turns out it got a lot worse after I moved out. Now they have a roach AND a rat problem. And rats destroy your clothes, they chew up dirty clothes, especially used underwear that has splooge on it. 
Rats are scary too, they've even been known to eat and kill small pets and babies. You could be sleeping and they could totally eat your baby to death without you even knowing it. This mom left her daughter at grandma's house, and by the time she came back within TWO HOURS her baby had been gnawed to death: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3388660/Four-month-old-baby-dies-Mexico-RATS-chewed-face-mother-18-left-home-party.html
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661472 - 09/20/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: To answer certain questions: its not my lack of cleenliness. I'm anal about bathing/laundry. I live in a large house my family has owned for decades I can't just leave. I really hope its contained just to my room. I slept in the guest room when I found out and had no problems, but who knows maybe I just infected it.
Between the mattress and box spring seemed like ground zero. I examined my clothes and other areas didnt see much, but I realize everything probably needs to be burned.
One of the very first things you should NOT do is switch rooms. If you switch rooms, the bed bugs will simply follow you or spread to other rooms where other people are. They can detect the scent of carbon dioxide which is omitted from your mouths and nostrils, and they can detect it from very far away, so they follow the scent that way. You're going to end up with bed bugs spread all throughout your house if you do this.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23661479 - 09/20/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's why you should keep a baby's face clean; so it doesn't smell like food.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23661506 - 09/20/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So your saying I should just keep sleeping in an infested room and let them bite me to death?
Yay
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661512 - 09/20/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: So your saying I should just keep sleeping in an infested room and let them bite me to death?
Yay 
Well, first things first you should definitely throw away your mattress and bed frame and throw all your sheets and clothes in a cycle in the dryer. You should not be keeping an infected mattress around.
Is heat treatment for the house not an option?
Make sure when you throw away the mattress and furniture too, you have to throw it away right before the city comes to pick it up. Otherwise they'll get back in the home if left out there for days.
I wouldn't buy any new mattress or furniture until you get this problem under control. Use an air mattress if you need a new one, bed bugs can't hide in those.
If you see any spiders in the home don't kill them, release them in the room that has bed bugs. I did this when I moved to a new place in case there were any bed bugs that had crawled on me or my stuff before my move. Spiders are a natural predator of bed bugs, and they're much less of a nuisance than bed bugs.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661523 - 09/20/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To treat an infestation you have to break the reproduction cycle, which usually means killing off the adult population and then continually killing the babies/juveniles as eggs hatch before they can reach breeding age. If you can keep everything concentrated to just one smaller area it's a hell of a lot easier to tackle. (this isn't just for bed bugs, it goes for pretty much any infestation)
So yeah, keep sleeping in the infested area and be vigilant in your eradication efforts. I mean up to completely sterilizing whatever you can (that you're not willing to replace) and getting it out of the room, washing your sheets and stuff daily, vacuuming and cleaning out all the crevices around the sleeping area.
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23661532 - 09/20/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heat treating the whole house probably isnt an option right now. Things have been tough and I live in a large house with my elderly grandma I take care of.
Recently I got my car stolen from an illegal mexican immigrant who was sleeping in the car. The cops caught the guy, and im almost wondering if he brought the infestation here.
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#23661540 - 09/20/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here danielx, I found a place for you to get bulk spiders.
Problem solved.
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This gregarious or quasi-social spider can be common in parts of Arizona, where it may be found in rodent burrows and wood rat (packrat). It is of the round-belied cellar spiders, body about the size of a baby pea, long and slender legs, very small fangs and enormous genitalia
Was that really necessary to add in?
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Shroomslip]
#23661557 - 09/20/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess when you're a spider with very small fangs, you compensate in other areas.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: Shroomslip]
#23661565 - 09/20/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had them last year. Took Orkin 4 times to come and spray to officially kill them all. Nothing was lost or destroyed. Juse a large amount of work. Especially if you have carpets, cause you got to rip the edges of the carpets out, one of bedbugs favorite places is popcorn ceilings, floor trim, and carpet.
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Re: Who has dealt with bedbugs? [Re: danielx]
#23661576 - 09/20/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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danielx said: Recently I got my car stolen from an illegal mexican immigrant who was sleeping in the car. The cops caught the guy, and im almost wondering if he brought the infestation here.
Yeah, it's possible, if he was homeless he was probably staying at shady motels or crack houses that are infested with bugs.
When I moved to the new place I actually had one new bite when I initially moved in. I was worried I may have brought bed bugs with me. I saw a spider the next night and released it close to my bed.
A few weeks after that, I saw a couple baby spiders, and I killed the baby spiders I did see, since there were probably hundreds of others I probably couldn't see. But I never got bitten by a bed bug again. I also haven't seen many spiders around since.
I think people who got lucky at getting rid of bed bugs probably have some type of natural predator in the house that they aren't aware of. Like Shroomslip, it's possible you had more spiders that were able to get rid of the problem before it got out of control.
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