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Asante
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. 2
#23660681 - 09/20/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is a tendency to dodge owning up to being wrong when you are, in an online discussion, because its so easy to click away.
I do that too sometimes, bad habit.
I'm actually HAPPY when I'm wrong because if I'm provably wrong I have learned something that day, it takes a kink out of my knowledge base. Each kink has a ton of consequences and implications so its good to get them out.
Many discussions are subjective but hard facts aren't.
Part of the Shroomery mission statement is to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation. Thats a good one for all of us.
Lets not omit owning up to it if we're wrong and not be dicks about it when someone does.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante] 2
#23660692 - 09/20/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante. this thread is like...so spot on.
just look at all the various disparate coalitions out there, propagating that they are right in their entirety, and that the 'other' is wrong; all whilst they can't sum up how said coalition is absolutely correct in all instances.
they fight, and when someone steps a single foot outside of their coalitions bubble of influence, and into another, the one they are stepping out off seeks to push them out completely, or the other tries to push them away.
instead of taking -- from these disparate coalitions -- the right, and running with it, and taking the wrong, and discarding of that; they opt to continue to defend their coalitions absolute righteousness, or be damned.
the world is stupid.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante] 1
#23660887 - 09/20/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're wrong. A well taught lesson learned is better than a coke.
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The amount of people that won't ever admit they are wrong is out of control.
The problem stems from the fact that some people have been argue their point for years and then when they face the facts they can't wrap their heads around the fact that they have been wrong all their lives. They don't have the courage and humility to just say "holy shit, it turns out that I was the idiot all along!"
There nothing worse than arguing with someone for half an hour and then suddenly realizing that he's right and you' re wrong.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante] 1
#23661052 - 09/20/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm actually HAPPY when I'm wrong because if I'm provably wrong I have learned something that day, it takes a kink out of my knowledge base. Each kink has a ton of consequences and implications so its good to get them out.
like when terrorists plant bombs in new york and it wasnt a 10yo pyro?
remember;
if it looks like a duck and it acts like a duck and it talks like a duck
you're high AF, ducks dont talk
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23661083 - 09/20/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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People just have to get over themselves and realize they are not always right. If I'm wrong about something then I will gladly admit it and learn from my mistakes. Thats just a part of life. For most people tho unfortunately ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: SonicTitan]
#23661164 - 09/20/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can admit when I'm wrong with out a problem, I'll own that; but apologizing on the other hand is another story...
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: K-9 Unit]
#23661167 - 09/20/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hard to apologize about something you feel true to your heart.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante]
#23661169 - 09/20/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Admitting you are wrong, these days, is a weakness. It's as if admitting you are wrong about one thing it means you are wrong about everything. Media is largely responsible in this now. How many celebrities or politicians own up to a mistake without falling off the edge of the world?
Failing on one point, admitting failure, invalidates everything else. Its competitiveness. Because so many on this other side will immediately jump on a small flaw and try to tear everything else that person stands for on the simple grounds that if you are wrong about one thing then you are wrong about everything.
It is weakness because the world is full of sharks. If you have an open wound the smell of blood drives a feeding frenzy. That's why our culture encourages us to hide it.
It's hard to say your ground is firm if you let part of it slide. If you can at least pretend you don't see it then you can still say your ground is firm... While accusing your opponents of doing just exactly what you do.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23661245 - 09/20/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It should never beconsidered as weakness tho. I feel it takes a stronger person to admit when they are wrong and learn from it than to just keep blindly going without any real consideration into what other people say.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante]
#23661327 - 09/20/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: There is a tendency to dodge owning up to being wrong when you are, in an online discussion, because its so easy to click away.
Yeah, that's why lots of people like posting on the internet, they can always be right, which is complete rubbish.
The only thing which grinds my gears, is when you see a two people going at it, and the facts are all mixed up, so of course they wont back down. If all the facts are known, and you have painted yourself into a corner, then do the right thing and admit defeat.
I think sometimes some people don't admit defeat because the facts are jumbled because of other people getting involved in a disagreement, then spreading lies/rumors, to the detriment of those who're having the disagreement, people love creating, and being involved in drama.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante]
#23661355 - 09/20/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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well hell, almost anything is better than a pepsi! (although I do drink one on occasion, venomous poison!)
I'll admit it, I admit when I'm wrong. Apologizing can vary depending on the situation and circumstances. If an apology is necessary/warranted, then I'll give it wholeheartedly.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Lucis]
#23661360 - 09/20/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's easier to admit being wrong on the comp/web. Obviously some don't.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23661388 - 09/20/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would rather admit if I was wrong, to someones face, otherwise I wouldn't feel good about the situation, because I would want to see the persons reaction, so I feel like there was some honesty involved in their response, that they actually accepted my apology, body language shows a lot about a person.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Lucis]
#23661399 - 09/20/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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true, that is why it easier to just "admit" online see? Of course in person face to face is the optimal option.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23661405 - 09/20/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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internet is the pedagogy for the damned.
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23661760 - 09/20/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Admitting you are wrong, these days, is a weakness. It's as if admitting you are wrong about one thing it means you are wrong about everything. Media is largely responsible in this now.
My last boss thought the same exact thing! When he told us that it was a weakness to admit that you're wrong, all his employees were kind of blown away. The foreman was all like, "I think it takes a bigger man to admit when he's wrong". Nope, none of us ever admitted we were wrong ever again.
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Depending on the subject I have no problem admitting I am wrong but over the years I have become very defensive, probably from many people being so aggressive...
Right and wrong are so subjective half the time I feel like how you carry yourself when you are write or wrong is about equally important.
For instance if you are wright about something but are a total dick about it, it becomes less useful to others. Same with being wrong, some people cannot admit it.
I have been on both sides as I am sure most of us have
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23661880 - 09/20/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: internet is the pedagogy for the damned.
this should be a bumper sticker etc...
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23661905 - 09/20/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is your mind after class
     
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Re: Please correct me if I'm wrong but.. [Re: Asante]
#23662010 - 09/20/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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is zipf real?
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