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Eminence



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Why are so many educated people so damn stupid?
#23660429 - 09/20/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Eminence] 5
#23660530 - 09/20/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't way to say it's Oprah... but.. it's Oprah.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Shroomism]
#23660597 - 09/20/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The more degrees of educashun you go through, the more regimented you become.
There'll always be a place (at least, there should be) for law, science and medicine in universities because that's where the facilities are, but so much that's done there it's just a funnel for money.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#23660686 - 09/20/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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dudes a mark dice copycat
You think college students are stupid check out californians:
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#23660697 - 09/20/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why are so many educated people so damn stupid?
because they're part of a coalition that believes they have all the answers, and fight one another, believing that they do, when they don't.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Shroomism] 1
#23660702 - 09/20/16 04:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Eminence] 3
#23660727 - 09/20/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why are so many educated people so damn stupid?
If a child is a complete hellion, it says something about the child but a lot more about the parenting.
If an educated person acts like a dumbass, it says something about them but a lot about the quality about their education.
Education is a conditioning program. When faced with ANY problem you should instinctively rev up your brain instead of opting for the easy way out, or you weren't educated properly.
Guys, please forgive me, I'm going to say something that may sound very nasty. I apologize, but its a criticism of the educational system, not the students.
College level is supposed to be the 10% best students of the population at most. In the US its 40%, its too much. This is one reason why America falls behind towards other countries, which are much more selective about higher education. There need to be between levels of education,. which there arent. Its kind of like your two party system.
Each person has the set of abilities they excel in that are born with and an education needs to find those asnd magnify them to the utmost extent.
Just like the political spectrum cannot be divided in Democrats and Republicans, you need many KINDS of education also.
I'm a dropout due to illness. In terms of American education, I couldnt even get a highschool diploma, so I'm not some elitist snob from a prestigeous university. I taught myself almost everything I know.
So, its not like that. I'm just saying, we all can be an expert at SOMETHING and the educational system fails to bring that result effectively for most.
Everybody is undereducated.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23660730 - 09/20/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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implying any of these videos are real
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Jokeshopbeard
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Common sense. There's a big difference between it, and academic intelligence.
Sadly, the former seems in very short supply in this world.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23660750 - 09/20/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Why are so many educated people so damn stupid?
If a child is a complete hellion, it says something about the child but a lot more about the parenting.
If an educated person acts like a dumbass, it says something about them but a lot about the quality about their education.
Education is a conditioning program. When faced with ANY problem you should instinctively rev up your brain instead of opting for the easy way out, or you weren't educated properly.
Guys, please forgive me, I'm going to say something that may sound very nasty. I apologize, but its a criticism of the educational system, not the students.
College level is supposed to be the 10% best students of the population at most. In the US its 40%, its too much. This is one reason why America falls behind towards other countries, which are much more selective about higher education. There need to be between levels of education,. which there arent. Its kind of like your two party system.
Each person has the set of abilities they excel in that are born with and an education needs to find those asnd magnify them to the utmost extent.
Just like the political spectrum cannot be divided in Democrats and Republicans, you need many KINDS of education also.
I'm a dropout due to illness. In terms of American education, I couldnt even get a highschool diploma, so I'm not some elitist snob from a prestigeous university. I taught myself almost everything I know.
So, its not like that. I'm just saying, we all can be an expert at SOMETHING and the educational system fails to bring that result effectively for most.
Everybody is undereducated.
Great post. I agree with everything you've said, though I disagree with the assertion that college should only be 10%. I don't think the way we do it in the states is preferable either though. I think a large issue is that people here go to college for liberal arts rather than sciences in droves. There is no competition to go to university for learning English or Exercise Science, and there is lots of competition to find jobs in those areas. Likewise there is enormous competition to go to university to become a doctor and little competition to work as one when finished. If we funded more people to educate in sciences and continued to make people pay for their education in arts, the value of higher education across the spectrum would increase.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23660776 - 09/20/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha, sorry guys. I was more or less just asking a rhetorical question and shaking my head at these people. I've just known so many of the "I have x degree, therefor I'm smarter than you by default!" types of people. Those people are not smart enough to know that they're really just good at mimicking what other actual smart people taught them I guess.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23660796 - 09/20/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: No mingey!
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Eminence]
#23660810 - 09/20/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Those people are not smart enough to know that they're really just good at mimicking what other actual smart people taught them I guess.
most humans exhibit the mirror neuron reaction. most people are good at mimicking (and not learning past) the authority figures in their life.
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psi
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Eminence]
#23660812 - 09/20/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To be fair, Ryerson is generally regarded as a pretty crappy university.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23660816 - 09/20/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: No mingey!
mingey....are we in paris mingey...?
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23660857 - 09/20/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It definately is becoming worse due to low selectivity in europe as well. When I was in elementary school, 25% of the pupils would make it into the hierarchically highest school form, while around 60 would go to, dunno, middle school (?) and the relatively retarded quarter would only do five more years at the lowest school form.
Now this is totally perverted. 60% go get highest education, while the lowest school form is FUCKING SHUT DOWN and the rest goes to middle school. It's because the schools became lax at their entry policies, I would be told that it's just enough with straight B average to make it to the highest school, while now it's usual to let them go there with only Cs and a few Ds because arrogant parents would pressurize teachers and schools to push their stupid offspring into education that is wasted on them. On top of that, school time was recently cut short of 1 year, with the effect of a horribly deterioration of depth. I've seen the change when I was in my last school year. The physics tests they introduced in 9th year involved copying values from a chart to a spreadsheet. It's sickening.
At university, there were dozens of kids in my first classes that needed daddy's signature for everything because they even legally were CHILDREN.
it turned out that graduation mark averages were horrible despite of it being trashed down to level ridiculous, and what they did was just elevate grading!
It's only purpose is to keep the kids from thinking what they really wanna do. Don't leave enough time for them to question anything, just shove them into an education/job preparation as fast as possible.
Of course the result is that everything has to become easier. Those kids fail so hard at university that it has become kindergarten within a few years. What should the staff do about it? Throw them all out? They should, but it would have catastrophic consequences.
It's such a fucking shame, as my education was once known as one the best of the western world.
I visit uni classes with children so ignorant, naive and incompetent, I regularly rage quit classes because of their non existent shame to ask über stupid stuff all the time, chatter loudly and play on their phones. It's sickening. They don't have opinions on the most basic topics, let alone that they would never utter them, in fear that someone could disagree. They even seem to lack personalities, no one of them talks unless they're forced to.
They don't know that education has a worth on its own. It's always, "eeew, is that relevant for the test??" "How will the tests be graded??" "Do I need to know this???"
It's so pathetic. They see this as a job prep course, which is only annoying and something to be done with ASAP. No intrinsic interest in anything, just money money money.
Sorry for rage post, but these tendencies really ruined the university experience I was once so looking forward to.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: Asante]
#23660923 - 09/20/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its also why the job market is watered down and a bachelor's degree doesn't mean shit
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#23661020 - 09/20/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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College wouldn't be so bad if high school did it's job and got kids up to an adult level education. Adults should be able to think for themselves. But its not about being educated or intelligent or even prepared for life. Its about the paper. Politicians noted high school dropouts and instead of investing into their education and helping kids get more enthusiastic and have more incentive to learn they just dumbed everything down. So that even the stupidest and the lazy could get their diploma so long as they didn't drop out.
I have what they call learning disabilities so they put me in "slow classes" in high school. The pace meant things got broken down better and I understood the topics and ideas better than the cut and dry memorization of normal classes. The people I was with though, for the most part, were placed in slow classes because they didn't want to learn. They didn't want to work. That attitude is contagious. I nearly failed 12th grade English because I didn't turn in any assignments aside from papers/research. My teacher gave me all the homework I didn't do over the year and let me make it up in the 4th quarter. She knew I wasn't dumb or didn't understand the material...
Paper paper paper. It only matters what kind of marks you get on paper It only matters if you 'earn' your paper diploma or degree It only matters if you go on to make that paper
The world is being watered down with all these standards, numbers, and dry statistics. That's why everyone's stupid as fuck. From day one we are taught that nothing but monetary success matters. Even better if you can look good doing it. Most anything else is inconsequential.
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23661026 - 09/20/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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College wouldn't be so bad if high school did it's job and got kids up to an adult level education.
glad someone said it, so i wouldn't have to. i probably wouldn't have anyway, though. but kids are still being shoved down homework on a daily basis....so who the fuck will listen to reason, anyway? no one revolting? no protests? nothing?
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From day one we are taught that nothing but monetary success matters. Even better if you can look good doing it. Most anything else is inconsequential.
but no one cares!
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Re: Why are so many educated people so damn stupid? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23661036 - 09/20/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because we as a society do not teach empathy.
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