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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662282 - 09/20/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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NUCLEAR FIRST OPTION AGAINST "ISLAM" IF "THEY" GET HYPOTHETICAL FUTURE WEAPONS, BECAUSE THEIR BELIEFS IN THE SCRIPTURE IS INSUPERABLE
even though that's a slippery slope, zero tolerance, last-ditch-effort, reactionary, stupid, and overblown hyperbole.
*shoots self*
how many times can this obvious logic be rained down on the Harris/internet-idiocy parrots?
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23662283 - 09/20/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You're following the narrative that theres millions of terrorists out there just waiting for the orders to strike and kill anyone, so yes, you too.
I am afraid you don't understand what I said or meant to say, and your comments therefore don't apply to me but rather to whatever straw man you have in your head .
Like Akira , you are a having an argument with yourself .
You certainly aren't talking or listening to me .
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Moonshoe]
#23662292 - 09/20/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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you are not listening to anyone. here let me make this clear for you. YOU LAST POSTULATION HERE WAS WRONG.
so can you just STFU? or just come up with a response. A REPONSE, or just STFU, would suffice. no more of your baffled excuses. i mean, i know your a fucking Muslim, but please, rationality, none of this baffled arrogant bullshit.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662294 - 09/20/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: NUCLEAR FIRST OPTION AGAINST "ISLAM" IF "THEY" GET HYPOTHETICAL FUTURE WEAPONS, BECAUSE THEIR BELIEFS IN THE SCRIPTURE IS INSUPERABLE
even though that's a slippery slope, zero tolerance, last-ditch-effort, reactionary, stupid, and overblown hyperbole.
*shoots self*
how many times can this obvious logic be rained down on the Harris/internet-idiocy parrots?
I am glad you started replying to your own posts, to reflect that fact you aren't having a conversation with anybody but just screaming at yourself .
I never said anything about a nuclear first option or anything even remotely related to that .
I sincerely think you should step away from the computer , take a few deep breaths and relax for a while .
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662300 - 09/20/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: you are not listening to anyone. here let me make this clear for you. YOU LAST POSTULATION HERE WAS WRONG.
so can you just STFU? or just come up with a response. A REPONSE, or just STFU, would suffice. no more of your baffled excuses. i mean, i know your a fucking Muslim, but please, rationality, none of this baffled arrogant bullshit.
All I said in the post you linked to there is that when the kind of terrorists attacks that Have already occurred are carried out using more powerful weapons such as dirty bombs (which are not future weapons but weapons that already exist and are relatively low tech ) more people will die in those attacks than have so far .
This is obvious and undeniable , and has no relation to all the stuff you are screaming about.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Moonshoe]
#23662303 - 09/20/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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STFU. you ever get the impression that someone just isn't getting something...you're not getting it. please try and get it, or just Shuuuutt theeeeeefuuuuckkk uupppppp already. 
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straw man you have in your head .
YOUR HEAD, insufferable *person*.
Harris's argument has been refuted, you still ascribe to it, hence you are also refuted, and it's been shown above -- do you have any response or refutation? no? then stfu.
the strawman is "Muslims have it out for us, in a future hypothetical sense, if they get better weapons, we'll need to consider a nuclear first strike".
that's the strawman to begin with!
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I never said anything about a nuclear first option or anything even remotely related to that .
ya, but you're another flatulent who keeps spouting that Harris "had a point" and "he was right", and pursuing that line of "reasoning" (faulty) which can proven idiotic reactionary bullshit, time and time again, and YOU ASCRIBE TO IT IN YOUR POSTS, IN TANDEM WITH WHAT YOU YOURSELF ALONE IS SAYING. so stop acting like such an arrogant unaware flatulent feigning your own daftness! it's fucking pathetic how little sense you goddamn have!
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23662305 - 09/20/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Terrorism has become a total fantasy thats not even reflective of whats actually happening on the ground. They got the public perception of it so thoroughly throttled that theres not an ounce of resistance to it anywhere. Its almost Orwellian in its scope and scale.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23662317 - 09/20/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i can see that. it's like talking to a fucking memory holed truth minister from the planet Holy Fucktard.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662322 - 09/20/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I said in the post you linked to there is that when the kind of terrorists attacks that Have already occurred are carried out using more powerful weapons such as dirty bombs (which are not future weapons but weapons that already exist and are relatively low tech ) more people will die in those attacks than have so far .
HYPOTHETICAL WOO
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662323 - 09/20/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never said anything about a nuclear first strike or anything even remotely related to it.
i am sorry Akira but you are not mentally healthy , and it's obvious that your agitation levels are rising the more you engage in this imaginary argument with yourself.
If it helps you to imagine that I said or believe any of the words you have put in my mouth, feel free to do so.
I hope someday you can live in a world that has enough overlap with reality to make communication with other humans possible .
It must be terribly lonely , and frustrating, being trapped alone in your head with a bunch of imaginary people who say things that make you angry.
Breathe deep, seek peace .
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Moonshoe]
#23662324 - 09/20/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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AA in meltdown mode.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Moonshoe]
#23662329 - 09/20/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You do realize how immature you sound by making passive aggressive apologies, right?
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
#23662335 - 09/20/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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it'd be nice if Moonshoe had a shred of what he was missing, either A: sense to find a clue that he's been proven wrong, and the guts to admit it and express how he grasped that himself, and B: a brain, in general.
it's like when you've been refuted with logic, no amount of repeating yourself will change things, unless you can drive the person nuts. i have a low threshold for people being intentionally dense, or for those who are too asinine to comprehend when they've been shot down (by, lo' and behold, nuclear missiles).
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I never said anything about a nuclear first strike or anything even remotely related to it.
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Sam Harris Makes a compelling case that the deeply held theological beliefs of Muslims , when they eventually aquire access to nuclear weapons, really will pose an existential threat .
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it should be of particular concern to us that the beliefs of Muslims pose a special problem for nuclear deterrence. There is little possibility of our having a cold war with an Islamist regime armed with long-range nuclear weapons. A cold war requires that the parties be mutually deterred by the threat of death. Notions of martyrdom and jihad run roughshod over the logic that allowed the United States and the Soviet Union to pass half a century perched, more or less stably, on the brink of Armageddon. What will we do if an Islamist regime, which grows dewy-eyed at the mere mention of paradise, ever acquires long-range nuclear weaponry? If history is any guide, we will not be sure about where the offending warheads are or what their state of readiness is, and so we will be unable to rely on targeted, conventional weapons to destroy them. In such a situation, the only thing likely to ensure our survival may be a nuclear first strike of our own. Needless to say, this would be an unthinkable crime—as it would kill tens of millions of innocent civilians in a single day—but it may be the only course of action available to us, given what Islamists believe. How would such an unconscionable act of self-defense be perceived by the rest of the Muslim world? It would likely be seen as the first incursion of a genocidal crusade. The horrible irony here is that seeing could make it so: this very perception could plunge us into a state of hot war with any Muslim state that had the capacity to pose a nuclear threat of its own. All of this is perfectly insane, of course: I have just described a plausible scenario in which much of the world’s population could be annihilated on account of religious ideas that belong on the same shelf with Batman, the philosopher’s stone, and unicorns. That it would be a horrible absurdity for so many of us to die for the sake of myth does not mean, however, that it could not happen. Indeed, given the immunity to all reasonable intrusions that faith enjoys in our discourse, a catastrophe of this sort seems increasingly likely. We must come to terms with the possibility that men who are every bit as zealous to die as the nineteen hijackers may one day get their hands on long-range nuclear weaponry. The Muslim world in particular must anticipate this possibility and find some way to prevent it. Given the steady proliferation of technology, it is safe to say that time is not on our side.
he's an idiot. you agreed with him. you say you didn't say "anything of the sort" but you're also saying that you agree with this idiots "case", while conveniently opting out of knowledge of the main header of his fucking "case". SO STFU ALREADY AND JUST SAY "boy, i didn't realize i was being such an idiot! let me think about this!"
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It must be terribly lonely , and frustrating, being trapped alone in your head with a bunch of imaginary people who say things that make you angry.
Breathe deep, seek peace .
says the Muslim who believes in a sky god, and can't comprehend things that his own head muddles through.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
#23662348 - 09/20/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: AA in meltdown mode. 
Libs are stupid as hell.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Great Scott]
#23662351 - 09/20/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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no, it's you groupthink freaks that are stupid as hell.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Great Scott]
#23662366 - 09/20/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said:
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qman said: AA in meltdown mode. 
Libs are stupid as hell.
Moonshoe is just making some excellent points and it's too difficult for many to accept, therefore meltdown mode.
Terrorist acts are not equal to lone criminal acts, it's a completely a different matter, many can't accept that reality.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
#23662377 - 09/20/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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lolwut, america didnt even attack the right country in retaliation. Saudi Arabia is where the attacks originated. They were well aware of this too, maybe theyre actively lying to you to pursue a hidden agenda? I mean if the war on terror was designed to stop it its a total failure. Terrorism is up 6,500%. With that number alone one would have to assume that promotion of terror might have been the intended effect.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman] 1
#23662389 - 09/20/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said:
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PeyoteZen said:
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qman said: AA in meltdown mode. 
Libs are stupid as hell.
Moonshoe is just making some excellent points and it's too difficult for many to accept, therefore meltdown mode.
Terrorist acts are not equal to lone criminal acts, it's a completely a different matter, many can't accept that reality.
no, you fucking baffling person you, his dumb shit has been refuted.
Sam Harris's "essay" has also been refuted in it's aspect of being a hypothetical, slippery slope, zero tolerance, last-ditch-effort, reactionary, stupid, and overblown hyperbole.
see: top of thread: read: respond: refute: or stfu and admit defeat entirely, or skulk away in silence. just please, don't repeat the same stupid post for umpteenth time. YOU weren't right. HE isn't right. he's been REFUTED. as has Sam Harris in his argument, in his essay.
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Terrorist acts are not equal to lone criminal acts, it's a completely a different matter, many can't accept that reality.
they aren't "lone criminal acts"? what are they? "future criminal acts of more prevalent danger"? "super criminal acts"? "something else other than criminal?" perhaps a new word maybe? do you have one to define what they're doing other than criminal?
or do you mean it's a "non-lone criminal act".
WTF DOES YOUR ASS MEAN?
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23662413 - 09/20/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: maybe theyre actively lying to you to pursue a hidden agenda?
No shit, Sherlock. Just like the Obama White House is actively lying to us to pursue yet another hidden agenda. We can't change the past but we can change the present and affect the future. Which is why we don't want Obama's bleeding heart refugee plan, nor do we want Hillary's 500% increase of the same.
This is not a Bush Administration apologist sentiment. This is just common sense national security and self-preservation instinct, and for me personally, it's not motivated by any partisan allegiances.
I'd like to see Bush, Obama, and Clinton hanged or lined up before firing squads for their own individual acts of treason. Not like that'll ever happen, but that's where I stand insofar as "partisan allegiances" go.
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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
#23662428 - 09/20/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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here is Sam Harris's "case" (the moron)
https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/response-to-controversy
here is his idea of a nuclear strike against a hypothetical and hyperbolic threat of 'future scriptural adherents to Islam that may hypothetically get really dangerous weapons that they're a: unlikely to get b: unlikely to have launch capabilities for and c: is just about any Muslim potentiate, in theory.'
https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/response-to-controversy#premptive_nuclear_war
here's me refuting this idiocy, which Moonshoe ascribed to, in his repeat views echoing Sam Harris's "case".
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the hypothetical point is that IF Islamic forces HAD a nuke, and COULD launch it, they are more likely than any other group, save a sum few (or no? they are alone in this prospect?) to launch it, out of the regard for their beliefs ect....
that is fallacious logic, however, to presume that that instance (improbable, at best) must be met with equal determination to nuke the fuck out of them first; which is absurd.
to add: a less only for retards approach would be to use special ops to take out this hypothetical nuke. not nuke the fucking nuke along with whomever else. idiotic. fucking idiotic. only FOR idiots. FOR IDIOTS ONLY. WARNING. INFECTIOUS MORONIC IDIOCY IS APPARENTLY CONTAGIOUS.
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