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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661192 - 09/20/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed. Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Kinko]
    #23661202 - 09/20/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661210 - 09/20/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Roughly 50 people are slaughtered like Muslim pigs in the united states daily by Americans .          roughly about 100 ( pretty extreme probraly biased high number ) people are killed by the so called naturalized Muslim citizen's.          Your fear of Muslims is absurd you are 100 times more likely to die from ur fellow police officer or ur regular black thug than any Muslim jihad.    Like I said you people need to focus on the real issues.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23661220 - 09/20/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed. Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.




"results in more deaths"

So that's your criteria for a sensible gun policy?  :facepalm:


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
    #23661221 - 09/20/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
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Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



Seriously ?  Have you known anyone who has known anyone who was killed by a Islamic terrorist ?    No you do not so stop making it an issue when in fact it has never affected you or your loved ones..


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23661223 - 09/20/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed.




so why not simply outlaw terrorism so we wont have to worry about being killed by
terrorists, why not outlaw violent crimes so we no longer have to worry about
becoming victims of those criminals



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Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.




we made it illegal for criminals to own guns, for some reason the criminals dont
seem to obey the laws, our guns arent just to keep criminals at bay, they're also
to keep canada from invading


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Kinko]
    #23661225 - 09/20/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kinko said:
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qman said:
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Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



Seriously ?  Have you known anyone who has known anyone who was killed by a Islamic terrorist ? 










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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Kinko]
    #23661228 - 09/20/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kinko said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



Seriously ?  Have you known anyone who has known anyone who was killed by a Islamic terrorist ?    No you do not so stop making it an issue when in fact it has never affected you or your loved ones..




So your position on an issue is based on how it affects you personally? 

And yes, I knew several different people that had family members killed on 9/11.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
    #23661235 - 09/20/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



because they don't want to be become associated with lots of people whom espouse radical ideas, themselves.

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And yes, I knew several different people that had family members killed on 9/11.




my cousin was supposed to visit around that time, for vacation. lucky she didn't go, and pushed it back.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661237 - 09/20/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
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qman said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



Seriously ?  Have you known anyone who has known anyone who was killed by a Islamic terrorist ? 









That happened many years ago , chances are he didn't know any of the 3,000 that died that day.      Car wrecks kill 10x as much every year but I never seen a thread about it on the shroomery.        Islamic terrorism is not a real problem everyone knows that.... The USA always has an enemy and the jihads happen to be it at the moment.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23661240 - 09/20/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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qman said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
People want to lean conservative but you people make it really hard




It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



because they don't want to be become associated with lots of people whom espouse radical ideas, themselves.





sounds like they're trying to pander to voting blocks, hell, obama never stopped campaigning


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: qman]
    #23661241 - 09/20/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The narrative they are fighting is the ISIS narrative that it is a war between Islam as a whole and the west / everybody else as a whole; while the USA wants to oppose that narrative in favour of one where it's a war between radical extremists and all good and civilized people Including the majority of Muslims .

The narrative the White House wants to defend is one where the vast majority of Muslims
Condemn terror attacks and where violent extremism is not something inherent to Islam.

Sam Harris argues extensively that in fact radical extremism does follow directly from Islamic theology and scripture .

The US is afraid of the entire Islamic world buying into the Isis narrative and polarizing against them .

Sam Harris argues this is already the case.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661243 - 09/20/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed.




so why not simply outlaw terrorism so we wont have to worry about being killed by
terrorists, why not outlaw violent crimes so we no longer have to worry about
becoming victims of those criminals



Quote:

Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.




we made it illegal for criminals to own guns, for some reason the criminals dont
seem to obey the laws, our guns arent just to keep criminals at bay, they're also
to keep canada from invading



all that is backwards in your thinking is revealed comparing the two statements you just made.

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Prisoner#1 said:

sounds like they're trying to pander to voting blocks, hell, obama never stopped campaigning



incidental of their chosen profession. a politician is an avatar of the auspices of the people their elected to serve. public image comes with the job.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Kinko]
    #23661246 - 09/20/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kinko said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Kinko said:
Quote:

qman said:
It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, radical Islamic terrorism is a reality.  Most liberals also acknowledge this fact, why do Clinton and Obama refuse to acknowledge it?



Seriously ?  Have you known anyone who has known anyone who was killed by a Islamic terrorist ? 









That happened many years ago , chances are he didn't know any of the 3,000 that died that day.      Car wrecks kill 10x as much every year but I never seen a thread about it on the shroomery.        Islamic terrorism is not a real problem everyone knows that.... The USA always has an enemy and the jihads happen to be it at the moment.




it happened 15 years ago, that's during the lifetimes of all of us but it's
clearly not the only attack by radicalized muslims within the US and you're
spending your time making it a game of team trivia. terrorism is terrorism
and when it occurs it's all of us that are affected


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661251 - 09/20/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed.




so why not simply outlaw terrorism so we wont have to worry about being killed by
terrorists, why not outlaw violent crimes so we no longer have to worry about
becoming victims of those criminals



Quote:

Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.




we made it illegal for criminals to own guns, for some reason the criminals dont
seem to obey the laws, our guns arent just to keep criminals at bay, they're also
to keep canada from invading




Because weapon manufacture is tightly regulated and controlled already. They come from designated factories and are heavily centralized. Making them harder to get would have an immediate and lasting impact.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23661254 - 09/20/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

sounds like they're trying to pander to voting blocks, hell, obama never stopped campaigning



incidental of their chosen profession. a politician is an avatar of the auspices of the people their elected to serve. public image comes with the job.




which must be why hillary wanted to build a wall, and why she campaigned heavily for
NAFTA and now denounces it as a bad idea... pandering is all it is


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661256 - 09/20/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

their are...Jesus, Laddie.

there are differing proponents within the electorate, with differing opinions.

blame the idiots in the country whom refuse to find common ground, and only wish to create schism within their countries population.


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23661257 - 09/20/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Not if that resulting right results in more deaths then the terrorists and criminals originally committed.




so why not simply outlaw terrorism so we wont have to worry about being killed by
terrorists, why not outlaw violent crimes so we no longer have to worry about
becoming victims of those criminals



Quote:

Now I'm not for an outright ban. You should still be able to keep a moss berg tucked under your bed for intruders, and get a pistol with the right documentation and a clean record. Its just the way you guys have things set up down there right now pretty much anyone can get anything at anytime. Which is kind of nutty.




we made it illegal for criminals to own guns, for some reason the criminals dont
seem to obey the laws, our guns arent just to keep criminals at bay, they're also
to keep canada from invading




Because weapon manufacture is tightly regulated and controlled already. They come from designated factories and are heavily centralized. Making them harder to get would have an immediate and lasting impact.




so criminals buy straight from the manufacturer


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23661260 - 09/20/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
their are...Jesus, Laddie.

there are differing proponents within the electorate, with differing opinions.





yes and when hillary's position changes like the shifting of the wind depending on
which group she's speaking with, it's called pandering for votes


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Re: White House Press Secretary: U.S. in a 'Narrative Fight' with Islamic State [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23661262 - 09/20/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the manufacturer is already on Silk Road and beyond, making side bucks.

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Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
their are...Jesus, Laddie.

there are differing proponents within the electorate, with differing opinions.





yes and when hillary's position changes like the shifting of the wind depending on
which group she's speaking with, it's called pandering for votes



Hilary is a stupid cunt, what the fuck do you expect? i'm not shilling for Hilalry,...i mean i fucking call her HILAL-ry, fuck sakes.

is anything i'm saying getting through to you, at all?


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