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new to mitragyna speciosa growing.
    #23659353 - 09/19/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Have a few kratom cutting im trying to get established, from what I've read they like nitrogen rich soil that is not too compact but also allows water to pass through without drying out. I used a clean 5 gallon bucket to mix about half a bucket of organic garden soil, just enough perlite to stop clumping, an 1/8 to 1/4 bucket or a sphangum peat moss to help hold moisture, and  dash of nitrogen based fertilizer. Would appreciate any feedback and/or advice. Also I live in south Texas as location seems important


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23660162 - 09/19/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Good luck buddy.

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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Asshat331] * 1
    #23660476 - 09/20/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They love alot of fertilizer. Coffee grounds are great. And anything else you got around. Good luck man and they love south texas.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23661041 - 09/20/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are pretty heavy feeders, but you can burn them.  A rich soil that drains well but does not dry out too fast is ideal.  Garden Soil, plenty of perlite, and organic compost.  Feed with something that not only consists of the standard macronutes like NPK but has other micronutes.  Currently using 4 different types for 1 well balanced blend that works excellent with the soil. Give roots a roomy home(you have that covered with the 5 gallon pots BUT if all goes well they will outgrow that and need a new home next summer.) Keep a keen eye on the weather, they do not take kindly to temperatures 50 degrees and below.  Does not mean they won't survive but it stresses them and can drop leafs. If you keep them warm on those 'cold' winter days/nights they will not drop leafs and continue to grow.  Humidity is another key factor, usually not a problem for us coastal south texas dwellers but those sunny warm blue bird sky winter days after a hard northern can be dry so keep that in mind..keep in a green house, inside home, cover with clear plastic, or just mist them a few times throughout the day(if possible) and they will be just fine.  Direct scorching summer sun can do more harm than good.  Filtered light or morning sun/afternoon shade is what you want.  What strains do you have?


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23661207 - 09/20/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'd have to ask my buddy that ordered them as to which strain, it usually stays pretty humid here until, like ya said, we get a northern but its been humid enough so far to not have to mist often. They probably get 3 to 4 hours of direct sunlight in the morning,the rest is filtered by their surroundings. Ill definitely look into the type of feed ya suggested, and thank ya much for the feedback. Makes me feel better to hear that I've been going in the right direction with them.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23661231 - 09/20/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Gulf Coast humidity is sexcellent for ktoms.  All the rain we've had has done them well this year.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 1
    #23661300 - 09/20/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I figured they'd like the rain, my chili plant has exploded this year from it. Soon as I watered them a lil a stray shower rolled through, nature has a funny sense of humor


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23661712 - 09/20/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I got some kratom plants in a trade yesterday
3 bumble bee and 1 rifat
no idea what it means but I'm really excited
they are living in my humidity dome with P virids
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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23662828 - 09/20/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fuckin right man. Share the love once those get going :smile:


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: saythatagain]
    #23662854 - 09/20/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I forgot to show my pics
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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23666357 - 09/21/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd have to ask my buddy that ordered them as to which strain, it usually stays pretty humid here until, like ya said, we get a northern but its been humid enough so far to not have to mist often. They probably get 3 to 4 hours of direct sunlight in the morning,the rest is filtered by their surroundings. Ill definitely look into the type of feed ya suggested, and thank ya much for the feedback. Makes me feel better to hear that I've been going in the right direction with them.





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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Asshat331]
    #23666407 - 09/21/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's curious,
seems like we might have gotten our plants from the same dude
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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23671001 - 09/23/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If it was a shroomery sponser(World seed supply) sister site than you would be right.

Also looks like they are out of stock.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Asshat331]
    #23671040 - 09/23/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, then no ha I got mine in a trade..


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23673695 - 09/24/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I got a kratom plant in the mail. I acclimated it to my high humidity grow room for a week, any then transplanted it into a bigger pot. I think the transplant shock has killed it. The leaves wilted and started curling in. The apical meristem looks messed up. I'm sad, but I'm wondering if the stem will stay alive and produce new leaves eventually. We'll see. It's too late to get a new plant.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23673708 - 09/24/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I got a kratom plant in the mail. I acclimated it to my high humidity grow room for a week, any then transplanted it into a bigger pot. I think the transplant shock has killed it. The leaves wilted and started curling in. The apical meristem looks messed up. I'm sad, but I'm wondering if the stem will stay alive and produce new leaves eventually. We'll see. It's too late to get a new plant.




You should have placed it in the shade and left it there to avoid shock. I find they dont really need high humidity. They dont a dumb owner like me to cut it in half though.:facepalm: ill never make that mistake again.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23673738 - 09/24/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well I ordered one more plant just in case. With priority mail it should arrive before the 30th. I put my first one in my mushroom fruiting room in my garage, but the next one I'm gonna keep indoors under an LED grow light and hold off on transplanting for longer.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23673998 - 09/24/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly I wouldn't recommend someone on this forum to just throw whatever creative thing they come up with into the pot.For dummies, Put it in a large pot with miracle grow potting soil. Keep it watered always.
It's best to have it somewhere where the temp is above 70 if it gets too cold it dies.Greenhouses are great.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23674027 - 09/24/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Honestly I wouldn't recommend someone on this forum to just throw whatever creative thing they come up with into the pot.For dummies, Put it in a large pot with miracle grow potting soil. Keep it watered always.
It's best to have it somewhere where the temp is above 70 if it gets too cold it dies.Greenhouses are great.




This coming from a person who recommended miraclo gro potting crap.

Ive had kratom go deciduous every winter. Not snowy or anything but cold. Would come back wvery spring.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23674065 - 09/24/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I transplanted mine into miracle grow potting soil with a little extra perlite and crushed granite. The soil had been outside and rained on quite a bit so I figured the fertilizer all leached out. After transplanting I fed it with a light dose of Age Old grow, and 2 days later it started wilting. I'm not holding out much hope for this one, but only time will tell.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23676309 - 09/25/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Had a rooted rifat arrive in the mail, leafs were mostly yellow.  I repotted but I don't think it survived.  The bumble bee arrived in same condition but it took and is growing.  Some plants just don't survive.  Cuttings for example...you take the utmost care and prep but a couple might not take for whatever reason. Nature of the beast.  Next pot size for one is a 45 or 55 gallon drum or put it in the ground.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23676598 - 09/25/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Are these possible to grow indoors in other climates?


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Solipsis]
    #23676614 - 09/25/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are trees. One of mine would be touching the ceiling if I didn't top it for cuttings..even then it's about to be back where it was. I suppose if you were very wealthy, had really high ceilings with sky lights (windows) and a wall of windows it would be an awesome house tree.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23676702 - 09/25/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Probably an atrium. You would have to keep it trimmed. They do good in the shade, as well as the sun where i live. And its hellish here.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23678281 - 09/25/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well my first cutting that I ordered has died. My second one should be arriving this week, and it's going to live under a LED grow light in my kitchen, and it won't be transplanted until it puts on a few more nodes. This is my last chance to grow kratom so I sure hope it works out.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23678721 - 09/26/16 04:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Whats up fellows. Just got a couple plants. I've been trying to slowly acclimate them to the sun outside, 30 mins a day. Even then a little sunburn but not much. But i'm getting a lot of leaf curling and some crisp brown edges. I'm a novice as far as any sort of botany goes so i'm not really sure how to properly diagnose this. I noticed the soil was still wet at night even though i watered it in the morning.Hell it's still damp the next day. I would have thought a vendor would have sent me the right soil. Maybe I'm wrong? Can't afford to kill these babies in times like this.

Also would it be better to leave them under a covered porch during the acclimation process or keep them inside?


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23678782 - 09/26/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



So a little confused. Leaves look like under watering but like I said soil is staying wet all day. Diagnosis?


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23679601 - 09/26/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive had them do that before but its rarely ever fatal. Just monitor it but im pretty sure youre good.


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    #23679616 - 09/26/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you think it's just stress from the transfer? They looked great when I first got them. Just want to make sure I'm not messing these fellows up. Got em out on the covered porch for now. It's a bit humid this days so hopefully they like it better out here. You think I should upgrade the pot yet? Or give them a minute to heal?


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    #23679643 - 09/26/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Leave them alone for now and dont worry too much. They look real good regardless. Once you know the stress is over you can repot it.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23680874 - 09/26/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Was at my buddies house and one of the plants came like this, its about the only thing that worries us.

Another has a dying leaf but that was probably from shipping, In fact most problems seem to be from them being shipped or transplant shock but this idk.



Hard to see bc i took it just now at night, but it has red spots.


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    #23681861 - 09/27/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ime, not really. Ive seen that before. It was on my sun grown one. May he rest on peace. But it comes and it goes. Again, i wouldnt worry about it too much.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23682202 - 09/27/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay thanks for the response! It's hard getting info on these guys. Really wish there was a trouble shooting guide haha. Just leaving them on the covered porch for now, misting periodically, and trying to only give water when the soil seems in need. Fingers crossed


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    #23693003 - 09/30/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So my leaves are continuing to curl upward and turn pale. The bigger leaves still look good, but many of the medium and smaller ones are looking pretty bad. I am at a complete loss as to what to do about it


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    #23693714 - 09/30/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So my leaves are continuing to curl upward and turn pale. The bigger leaves still look good, but many of the medium and smaller ones are looking pretty bad. I am at a complete loss as to what to do about it




Show us some recent pics.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23694070 - 09/30/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well I got my second plant in yesterday and it's a much nicer specimen. It's shorter and has a lot more leaves. The last one was a long twig with two leaves coming out if it. I have much higher hopes for this one. Will post a pic when I get home.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23694410 - 09/30/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thoroughly appreciate the advice given:) luckily they seem to be doing well minus two or three leafs falling off (I think due to the transplant) appears that they're popping some new leaf sets from the stems. I think bugs have made a couple of holes in a leaf here and there but not any major damage. Just keeping a good eye on them and the weather, next weekend is supposed to be as cool as this one but ill be out of town so my roommate will have watering duties. I should be getting two new trees from a friends cousin that passed away apparently they're waist high and lost almost all their leafs so I may have a few more questions after this Sunday


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23694464 - 09/30/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh and one more question, I've looked around a bit and can't find an answer, is the dea planning to make the plant illegal as well or just the end product?


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23694483 - 09/30/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it will be illegal. I sincerely doubt anyone would give you trouble for it. It looks like any other plant and it's not like many people even grow it. Not a cash cow like mj.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23694487 - 09/30/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is the shortest of the 8 and seems to be doing the best so far
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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23694514 - 09/30/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'd have to say this one looks least healthy


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23694576 - 09/30/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well thats unfortunate, luckily it is pretty inconspicuous. Almost looks like my roommates small oak sprouts


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: beachbum90]
    #23695436 - 09/30/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd have to say this one looks least healthy




Looks great.

True story. The usda came inspectimg citrus one day and asked aboit my kratom. Well i said my dad gave it to me and inthink its guava. The 3 agreed" oh yeah it is guava, but with bigger leaves" i was like yeab of course.


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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23698475 - 10/01/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wow they do look the same, funny story man.

Shows how ignorant even specialist can be.

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Re: new to mitragyna speciosa growing. [Re: Asshat331]
    #23698869 - 10/02/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow they do look the same, funny story man.

Shows how ignorant even specialist can be.

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Those guys. :cheersyoufuck:


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