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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Asante] 1
#23660611 - 09/20/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US won't be facing civil war or invading Western nations anytime soon
This is paranoia to an extreme
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Repertoire89]
#23660614 - 09/20/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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cant have domination without a war.. when ww3 happens, im headed for the hills to live without a damned smart box in front of my face for 16 hours a day.
who gives a fuck who wins at that point.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Repertoire89]
#23660618 - 09/20/16 03:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ask a black guy about the police and he'll probably say it already has begun.
And y'all are striking up wars like that little girl in that christmas story lit up matchsticks.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Asante]
#23660622 - 09/20/16 03:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: Ask a black guy about the police and he'll probably say it already has begun.
Considering the prolific black on everyone homicide rates, that wouldn't be surprising.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Repertoire89]
#23660633 - 09/20/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its more than the shootings, its the policing style and incarceration rate over trivial offenses. Putting young black males in prison or the morgue is a government industry still. I say still because it never really stopped.
But lets get back ontopic of World War Three.
My bet is on the US as the instigator or aggressor. You're also being VERY provocative towards Putin who is not the kind of guy to be provoking too much.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Asante] 2
#23660664 - 09/20/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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We can't go to war with Russia, because of MAD. Its a shame Putin isn't American.
I think the destruction of our ecosystem is more tangible threat than WW3
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Repertoire89]
#23660685 - 09/20/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are few people more unamerican than Putin, he is a classical Russian "Great Leader" and I mean that as a compliment.
Russia cant have an Obama, Clinton, Trump, they're not gonna make it.
Let's hope he keeps things under control and won't get too expansive.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Asante]
#23660958 - 09/20/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unless we find a way to solve the global methane holocaust and the dozen other global ecological cataclysms brewing on the horizon we better kick world war 3 off soon or we won't have time.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Moonshoe]
#23660985 - 09/20/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just cut your beef consumption in half and spread the word. Methane will drop. Farmland will shrink and overall every positive things will increase.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Patlal] 2
#23661079 - 09/20/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The wars and conflicts that are taking place right now are the final vestiges of uncontrolled territory - tactically. The reason wars take place in the middle East has largely been to prevent other groups from taking control of its resources and creating a formidable superpower decades down the line. Whether those groups are religious fundamentalists that are close with the area, Russians or Asian powers - the fight is - in the grand scheme - a (hitherto failed) effort to quasi-colonize parts of the Middle East long enough to ensure their propped governments can withstand invasion from outside forces, and from rebels within.
The end goal is to make countries uninvadable, so that countries who have the largest stakes in the international economy can reign supremacy through trade.
As it stands, any country that can be invaded by the United States is a country that can be invaded by Russia as well. Wars won't end until all areas of the globe have been modernized into uninvadable territory.
An example of a country that would have been invaded if it were possible is Iran. What many don't realize is that Iran has a population of 75 million people - nearly the size of Germany. That's a war that can't be won considering Iran has a sizable militarized police force and a military with a third as many soldiers as the United States, it would degrade into total warfare and would only come to resolution with the use of nuclear weapons - something that just won't happen as nuclear weapons are for ending wars, not conquest.
That's not even considering that Iran has allies. It's completely uninvadable by any single force, and it would take a world war sized effort to do so without counting it's allies as well. Another country that would have been invaded if it were possible is North Korea, which boasts the fourth largest ground army in the world. For any country to take powers like these on is suicide. You might win the war at the cost of leaving yourself open to attack by another country when your military has been strained thin fighting the other one.
This is the direction all countries are building up to. I use Iran as one example of many. China has such a big militarized police force and military, that it would retain sovereignty if all the armies of the US, Europe and Russia combined tried to attack it. However their military structure is a purely defensive one, they are ill equipped for large scale invasions and for good reason. It's much cheaper to defend than to invade - and they've focused their economic resources on pure growth - and have positioned themselves as the strongest player in economic warfare the world will ever see.
A lot of people don't realize that this is the most peaceful period in thousands if years. It's not just a smaller percentage of people per capita dying per year from warfare, it's actually fewer in number itself despite the world holding the largest population in history. The scale of wars today is considerably smaller since the end of WW2, and it's been in a downward path since. Everything has been a cold war (something that has never quite ended) squabble over influence in a region, or internal civil warfare. These are all coming to an end as nations become more equipped to resist occupation, and more equipped to suppress internal uprisings. Countries like the United States, Russia, China and most of Western Europe are already at this point uninvadable, and can counter any domestic uprising as well.
For these reasons, I don't think we'll see a war on the scale of WW2 for a few centuries. Economic warfare is starting to truly determine where power is rather than brute force - largely because countries you attack economically become less equipped to fight a war. Need money to fight a war.
Edited by PatrickKn (09/20/16 09:49 AM)
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Repertoire89]
#23661149 - 09/20/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: We can't go to war with Russia, because of MAD. Its a shame Putin isn't American.
I think the destruction of our ecosystem is more tangible threat than WW3
Personally I think that's going to be the primary cause. When coastal cities start getting wiped out in the next ten years all the strain and desperation is probably going to be funneled the same way it always is. Into war.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23661219 - 09/20/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Repertoire89 said: We can't go to war with Russia, because of MAD. Its a shame Putin isn't American.
I think the destruction of our ecosystem is more tangible threat than WW3
Personally I think that's going to be the primary cause. When coastal cities start getting wiped out in the next ten years all the strain and desperation is probably going to be funneled the same way it always is. Into war.
I think the same, and it's not just coastal cities getting whiped out.
Climate change means exactly what it says on the label; the climate will change. Wet places become dry, dry places become drier, other places become friggin soaked.. food production will be thrown in disaray, etc. etc.
This will lead to massive movements of populations, war, famine, disease.. it's gun be bad.
Thankfully I live in the Netherlands. The sea will claim us long before shit starts to get really ugly.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Patlal]
#23661704 - 09/20/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still don't think there will or can be a world war 3. Traditional warfare doesn't make sense anymore
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Ezuma]
#23661739 - 09/20/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's plausible but it'd end so quickly
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Turtletotem]
#23661844 - 09/20/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Repertoire89 said: We can't go to war with Russia, because of MAD. Its a shame Putin isn't American.
I think the destruction of our ecosystem is more tangible threat than WW3
Personally I think that's going to be the primary cause. When coastal cities start getting wiped out in the next ten years all the strain and desperation is probably going to be funneled the same way it always is. Into war.
I think the same, and it's not just coastal cities getting whiped out.
Climate change means exactly what it says on the label; the climate will change. Wet places become dry, dry places become drier, other places become friggin soaked.. food production will be thrown in disaray, etc. etc.
This will lead to massive movements of populations, war, famine, disease.. it's gun be bad.
Thankfully I live in the Netherlands. The sea will claim us long before shit starts to get really ugly.
I was being a little simplistic but yeah, we're basically fucked at this point. Its only a matter of time before basic necessities get cut off to a large amount of people and civility flys out the window lord of the flies style.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23661926 - 09/20/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's true . One of the many disasters caused by runaway climate change will certainly be increased small and quite possibly Large scale war and conflict.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23661971 - 09/20/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If there is a WW3, it will be a nuclear one and we are all fucked. It only takes one crazy dictator to start the fiasco from which there is no turning back. Unfortunately, this will be the final purge to bring near elimination of our race, and future balance....thousands of years from that day, to fruition.
The US has one submarine that carries over 200 nuclear warhead equipped missiles...each one 30 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb. I would assume the Russians have something similar. But, my guess is that WW3 will start from a launch by Kim Jung Un and then overreactions by the superpowers. Once a missile is launched, there is only about 7-10 minutes till impact...not a lot of time to make sound and rational decisions.
Dialogue and tensions are currently as bad as they were during any time during the Cold War according to our top military strategists.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23662003 - 09/20/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im thinking once the states and Russia believe themselves to be capable of launching an attack and parrying enough of the incoming warheads to not be obliterated they will launch an attack. Laser systems are almost at that point, which in my view is why theyre getting so belligerent with eachother. A fundamental shift is on its way, and its gonna be nasty. With the submersion of major cities *cough* new york *cough* and coast lines, even without war, this world is going to be radically restructured and altered within the next few decades.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23662014 - 09/20/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah....who wants to be under the ones that get through though. Star wars type defenses are certainly a part of the fabric as well as patriot type batteries...but, they won't stop them all.
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Re: Alright, here's my theory about World War 3 [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#23662070 - 09/20/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tensions are getting belligerent because the US has been pushing the nuclear balance to it's side for many years now, and Russia is (openly and unsecretly) unsure as to whether the defensive assurances of mutually assured destruction are still in play anymore or if America is too far ahead in that regard to ensure it's destruction should it attack.
Largely it comes down to defenses against nuclear attack itself, the United States has stronger defense despite both having similarly sized arsenals on high alert status. Putin has talked about this imbalance in public speaches fairly recently.
The question is whether or not someone will initiate an attack for the sole purpose of ending it all. No good could possibly come from initiating a nuclear war, and people in power - despite their failings - are well aware of this. There is no strategic advantage to going to war with Russia, there wasn't one during the entirety of the Cold War either.
That tensions are heating up doesn't necessarily mean nuclear warfare is close in our future. Russia, despite being angered over the increasing imbalance in nuclear deterrence, has zero cause to attack - and in my mind we're completely uninvadable as they are.
Any takeovers or changes of power for the biggest nations in Earth will be from economic warfare, psychological manipulation of populations, and continual proxy warfare in undefended regions.
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