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Ah... how dissapointing
    #23659074 - 09/19/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

As time goes on, I keep thinking that the people around me are bright and open minded. But when the topic of psychedelic drugs comes up.. the ignorance is staggering and just sad.

It's sad because these sacred substances can show you the most beautiful and profound realities and yet they are seen as the exact opposite!! "Those drugs just make you stupid." "They damage your brain..." "You can overdose so easily on these things"

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so dissapointing. And don't bother trying to educate these friends or family members or whoever it is you are talking to. They will simply shake their head and dismiss you.. like you are the lowest scum of the earth and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Is it like this because the powers that be want it this way? And if people are wrong about psychedelics, what else are they totally ignorant of?

Sigh. So disillusioned. Fuck. My family would probably not even think twice about putting me in a mental hospital if I mentioned something over dinner.

But I forgive them for their arrogance and ignorance. And I will keep this profound knowlege to myself.. maybe they will know when they die.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23659092 - 09/19/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Forgiveness is good but it's time to get work done, bro. Hail Satan.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: EternalCowabunga] * 1
    #23659093 - 09/19/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I definitely have this in my family, but my family has lots of cases of schizophrenia including myself, so when I bring it up there's just sighs and propaganda.

I guess I can't blame them.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #23659282 - 09/19/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yeah said:
Forgiveness is good but it's time to get work done, bro. Hail Satan.




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Yeah I definitely have this in my family, but my family has lots of cases of schizophrenia including myself, so when I bring it up there's just sighs and propaganda.

I guess I can't blame them.





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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23659366 - 09/19/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But I forgive them for their arrogance and ignorance. And I will keep this profound knowlege to myself.. maybe they will know when they die.




What profound knowledge are you talking about?

In hindsight I feel somewhat dumb about discussing my psychedelic experiences with people who aren't into psychedelics.  Talking about how high you have been just doesn't seem very profound to me.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: cez]
    #23659424 - 09/19/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey don't ask. It's personal.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: yeah] * 2
    #23659567 - 09/19/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's disheartening to know that you know or have access to something so profound to offer as a gift, but would be condemned in an instant for doing so, but I think we need to bear in mind that:


* Some people just aren't ready for the gifts - things Unknown and bizzare.

* Some people take unconscious comfort in governmental indoctrination.

* Everyone has a purpose which is bringing benefit to you in some way. Them being the way they are is what you perhaps need.


If I overhear something that either friends or family say in response to something related to the topic, I'll remind myself of the above three points, let them express themselves and just let them be. When you stay calm and watch, you can soon discover why they aren't suitable candidates anyways.

As you expand your wisdom, you can begin to literally see through people and you'll find that some people already have qualities which you thought they were without, but would find with mushrooms.  Other people will surface traits that will just make you want to exclude them.

I've learned too, that some people do not get wiser with age, so don't expect it to be a waiting game before you can whip out a bunch of fruits and a proposal of divinity.

It's a vast mix.  Just be grateful for what you have and enjoy your own version of the game. :thumbup:


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23659998 - 09/19/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

demiu5 hahahaha


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: cez]
    #23660019 - 09/19/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But I forgive them for their arrogance and ignorance. And I will keep this profound knowlege to myself.. maybe they will know when they die.




What profound knowledge are you talking about?

In hindsight I feel somewhat dumb about discussing my psychedelic experiences with people who aren't into psychedelics.  Talking about how high you have been just doesn't seem very profound to me.




I'm specifically thinking about the experience of ego death


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23660059 - 09/19/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's disheartening to know that you know or have access to something so profound to offer as a gift, but would be condemned in an instant for doing so, but I think we need to bear in mind that:


* Some people just aren't ready for the gifts - things Unknown and bizzare.






while it is generally easier to refer to psychedelics and/or the things that may be gained through their use, as gifts, it's a slight misnomer, as these "gifts" often have attachments [strings attached, costs].  even if someone is ready for the gift, they may not be ready to pass from point "a" (sober reality) to point "b" (non-sober) OR ready to handle/apply the gifts bestowed


i've seen this numerous times in terms of heavily indoctrinated catholics/christians, resulting in months of sober inner-turmoil trying to process the before and after of even just ONE experience.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: cez]
    #23660087 - 09/19/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But I forgive them for their arrogance and ignorance. And I will keep this profound knowlege to myself.. maybe they will know when they die.




What profound knowledge are you talking about?

In hindsight I feel somewhat dumb about discussing my psychedelic experiences with people who aren't into psychedelics.  Talking about how high you have been just doesn't seem very profound to me.




That's perhaps why it's important to seek out and report something that explains more than 'I took X grams and was out of my mind' as some people tend to do.

I think a report will only sound stupid to the Layman if it's bizzarely abstract, which might suggest that you've entered in without a goal or have cast 'nets' too far. 

I think an experience, especially one that you report should be relatable and if it came to the crunch, the 'drug' term could possibly be swapped out with 'meditation'. If something sounds too bizzarely abstract to fit into a meditation white lie, it's probably going to sounds silly regardless.


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23660094 - 09/19/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OMR has some phenomenally written trip reports from  5-10 years ago


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: demiu5]
    #23660159 - 09/19/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Duncan Rowhl said:
It's disheartening to know that you know or have access to something so profound to offer as a gift, but would be condemned in an instant for doing so, but I think we need to bear in mind that:


* Some people just aren't ready for the gifts - things Unknown and bizzare.






while it is generally easier to refer to psychedelics and/or the things that may be gained through their use, as gifts, it's a slight misnomer, as these "gifts" often have attachments [strings attached, costs].  even if someone is ready for the gift, they may not be ready to pass from point "a" (sober reality) to point "b" (non-sober) OR ready to handle/apply the gifts bestowed


i've seen this numerous times in terms of heavily indoctrinated catholics/christians, resulting in months of sober inner-turmoil trying to process the before and after of even just ONE experience.




I'd agree with this and I'd consider it as what I stated, in that some people aren't ready for the unknown and the bizzare, which encompasses possible after effects, which I know mushrooms aren't without, having experienced them myself.

It's only right that everything is covered including the fact that a great potential gift doesnt come without having to deal with a bit of rubbish after unboxing, if ever, it came to that, though I wouldn't burden myself with the onus of convincing anyone to do as I do.

It doesn't sound like the people you speak of even received a pleasant peri-experience? It sounds like a raw deal both during and after.  It seems to happen when people are rigid to dogma or ego and attempt to drag it in with them.  Dogma only seems to be excusable if the information is obtained in the experience itself which can be picked up again, seamlesley in subsequent sessions. 


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Re: Ah... how dissapointing [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23660479 - 09/20/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm glad that every retard out there thinks that psychedelics damage the brain, because that means that the experience is exclusively for those of true grit.

AND WE ARE CHOCK FULL OF THAT

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