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Why are my cakes not fruiting???
    #23659041 - 09/19/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hello this is my first post on here so sorry for any errors. I have searched a million threads and havnt found and answer to my question. So 9 days ago I birthed 6 .5 pint jars of Albino A+, dunked for 24 hours then rolled in verm. They have been in my SG Terrarium for 9 days now at 70 to 75 degrees and 95 to 100% humidity. There is no pins yet and im getting worried. I have misted 3 times a day and fanned 5-6 times. The only growth is little pieces of mycelium but not pins. What could be the problem? Please help


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrtonytompson]
    #23659107 - 09/19/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One of two things are happening.

1) Your cakes were not 100% colonized

2) Your smothering them with love.


I would start by cutting your FAE in half and see what happens. It also looks like you might be misting them too much. In that amount of humidity you should have new fuzzy mycelium growth. It looks like it started with the new growth but somethimg happened. Hopefully you will have pins soon.

Once you get them to pin the next trick is to treat them right so they dont abort. I would start keeping notes because I sense a FC and methodology improvement in your near future.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: katbusa]
    #23659125 - 09/19/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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One of two things are happening.

1) Your cakes were not 100% colonized

2) Your smothering them with love.


I would start by cutting your FAE in half and see what happens. It also looks like you might be misting them too much. In that amount of humidity you should have new fuzzy mycelium growth. It looks like it started with the new growth but somethimg happened. Hopefully you will have pins soon.

Once you get them to pin the next trick is to treat them right so they dont abort. I would start keeping notes because I sense a FC and methodology improvement in your near future.





Okay thanks. I read having more mycelium growth could be from a lack of FAE. Also i lets the jars consolidate 1 week after the whole jar was colonized. Ill take any more suggestions !


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: katbusa]
    #23659130 - 09/19/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: amidogen]
    #23659152 - 09/19/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'd mist more, they need misting when you can't see any little water droplets. It looks like your using a sgfc was it built to spec 2" x2" grid pattern 1/4" holes top and bottom. Remember evaporation is a trigger for pinning so keep the misting and fanning up and it'll happen, one pic sort of looks like a little pin but might just be verm at a funny angle
Mist and fan not 3 mist 6 fan btw
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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23659241 - 09/19/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes its a standard SGFC built to spec. The pic I took in the afternoon. I have a 6500k bulb on it in the closet. I have been mostly misting the sides and perlite and lightly misting the cakes. Heres some pics

(Hygrometer reads 70% its about 30% off. Did salt test )


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrtonytompson]
    #23659257 - 09/19/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I would start by cutting your FAE in half and see what happens.






like wtf????? no no no no no. FAE and evaporation of moisture triggers pinning!
stopping the FAE would halt the process.

dont worry about the RH. worry about FAE.. how moist is your perlite?

too dry of a perlite layer wont let the sgfc do its thing


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrtonytompson]
    #23659265 - 09/19/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You need to mist just the cakes directly, misting the perlite and walls won't do anything. The holes look a little far apart in the pics especially on the lid meaning there won't be as many, I'm not sure how detrimental that will be but there's a reason the tek specifies 2x2 grid.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23659274 - 09/19/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid: the last two posts nail it


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23659277 - 09/19/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: amidogen]
    #23659304 - 09/19/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

also the other advice is horribly wrong. not to bash katbusa but damn dude.

pf cakes and a sgfc are great ways for newbies to gain experience growing.
suggesting that someone LIMITS FAE during fruiting is just awful.
imagine your hungry and someone says ...try eating less.

again not to bash but god damn.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mushboy]
    #23659310 - 09/19/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fae is so important that if you could mist often enough you would be best off doing grows on your tables open air


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23659329 - 09/19/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks everybody. The perlite is moist but not soaked. I will make sure the cakes get misted more and make sure more FAE. Anything else I should know to make sure they fruit would be appreciated. This is my first grow and everything was going great until I birthed them and tried to fruit them.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrtonytompson]
    #23659364 - 09/19/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

how will you make sure they get more FAE? a SGFC built correctly gets only one amount of FAE, fanning is not FAE.

so long as it is built right it gets the right amount of FAE


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23659401 - 09/19/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ohh I thought FAE was from fanning? Then the FAE problem is probably from the SGFC they are in.


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    #23659422 - 09/19/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

FAE is passive. FAE isn't user controlled. if you build your SGFC correctly the holes give it FAE all the time 24/7

if you want to give manual FAE you have to fan every few minutes


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23659435 - 09/19/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

in your first post you say you fan 5-6 times but mist 3.

mist only as many time as you need, be it 1 time a day or 5 times a day/

you fan ONLY AFTER you mist, and fanning is optional by the way.
therefore your fanning number should be the same as your misting number

if the SGFC is built correctly humidity should be 50-70% most of the time and in the 80-90s after you mist. as the cakes evaporate moisture the area just above the surface skin of the cakes has 99% humidity as it evaporates into the air in the SGFC, that's the pinning trigger

9 days is hardly too long to worry anyway.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23659449 - 09/19/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I fan by opening the lid to mist. The mister moves enough air to be considered fanning IMO.

I fan with the mister bottle when the water from previous fanning has evaporated.


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23659550 - 09/19/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay thanks for the info. I got the numbers of how many times to mist and fan from the tek i used for this project. How often should i mist? You said anywhere from 1 to 5 times. How can you tell when they need to be misted?


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Re: Why are my cakes not fruiting??? [Re: mrtonytompson]
    #23659564 - 09/19/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When the water from the last mist is completely evaporated you can mist them again. No sooner.


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