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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: Boogieman47]
#23785193 - 10/30/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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to clear things up, since i got my balls kicked for using popcorn to begin with, i want to do the transition to millet and toss or just experiment with the popcorn jars. basically im just asking about the best way to "use" my colonizing popcorn jars to inocculate millet since im not entirely satisfied with the status of my petri dishes right now. i do like the idea of using a colonized popcorn kernel and throw that sucker on clean agar plates. i think ill go ahead and do that
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: Mushierage]
#23785229 - 10/30/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushierage said: I never understood why if you already have colonized grain to G2G with, why you would go from grain to LC, to grain, to spawning. Seems sort of counterproductive to me unless you have 40 extra jars sitting around that need to be inoculated.
Also what Dank said.
Because if you only have one jar of grain, a small lc from it can run circles around any g2g. I mostly g2g now (except Tampa and lion's mane), but I think I'm gonna start lcing it again. Speed wins
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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: azur]
#23831323 - 11/14/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is where im at now. Picture of jar shaken at both at 10% and 75% and another that hasnt been shaken yet at 75%.
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23831394 - 11/14/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Azur so you think lc is faster than g2g?
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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: spore-ty]
#23910615 - 12/09/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey! I ended up fucking up the millet and stuck to the popcorn this time. I did get rye but decided to let this popcorn stuff play out. I realize they have been colonizing for ever, but i have been waiting on some coco coir to get here and praised be cheesus they arrived today! check out how my jars look like and tell me if i ruined them by keeping them this long im pretty positive they're good though
by the way, it started getting rather cold here for a a couple of weeks now, how will that affect damion5050's coir tek? its close to 12 degrees celcius at night, it can even reach 8 any day now, and yes, we're talking about indoor temp (no heating)..
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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23913375 - 12/10/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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anyone?
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23913388 - 12/10/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The jars look good. 12°C is low. I fruited cubensis at 14°C but they did not perform good.
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mr_dude
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hmm too low u say.. can i use an aquarium heater and a water bath for the monotub?
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23913403 - 12/10/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should heat the room and not the tub. Isn't there another room that has a higher temperature?
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mr_dude
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hehe i wish, i wouldve slept in it myself
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23913412 - 12/10/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You live in a house/flat where every room is lower than 12°C?
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mr_dude
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well yeah u make me sound so poor.. we dont have heating, we're used to it. just carpets and we dress well.. right now its 15 degrees but at times it can drop significantly.. u make me sad bro
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23920229 - 12/12/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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urgent question: damion's coir tek states that he "optionally" covers the tub with a garbage bag. does that mean the alternative is leaving it uncovered? if i have a tub that comes with a lid, do i close the lid and cover with a garbage bag? doesnt the substrate need GE for proper colonization?
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23920292 - 12/12/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think i can answer my own question now. most lids dont seal too tight on the tubs and this is where we can get the gas exchange, even with the garbage bag on. am i right?
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#23920480 - 12/12/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bag method is outdated...no bag is better...
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: spore-ty]
#23921057 - 12/12/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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spore-ty said: Azur so you think lc is faster than g2g?
Depends. If you use a decent amount it can be. But you must prep your grain a little dryer. But the actual process is faster and you can stretch it further
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: Peteyboy]
#23921467 - 12/13/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: Bag method is outdated...no bag is better...
Good to know, thanks man
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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#24023119 - 01/19/17 02:38 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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its been over a month now and i believe we are barely at 50%. is it the cold weather thats slowing the process down? also, how can i safely check if its drying out and needs misting? i still see some condensation on parts of the tub's side.
anyway my friends, check the pictures i managed to take while trying my best not to contaminate it and let me know if its still alright or if i should lose hope..

Edited by mr_dude (01/19/17 05:39 PM)
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mr_dude
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#24025407 - 01/20/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Re: First Attempt at Agar and Grain [Re: mr_dude]
#24028312 - 01/21/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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How many jars of spawn were used? Looks like you could have used 2-3X more. The sub could be slow to colonize if little spawn was used as well as the cooler growing temps. Definitely move to rye if you can get it at a decent price as it's very forgiving and is a much better spawn than corn. I think once you get some good clean spawn (not corn) going, you'll see way faster colonization of both it as well as the sub and all around better results.
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