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I'm Out
    #23658466 - 09/19/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So, I called someone an idiot and now my ratings are permanently disabled? Fucking ridiculous. The specified reasons for the removal of my ratings are as follows:

Quote:

Infraction type: Inappropriate Rating
Offending Rating: lol (left for DinduNuffin)
Infraction description: Misusing the rating system to flame, troll or otherwise harass another member.
Ban details: Leaving automated ratings to manipulate the normalized values.





Leaving automated ratings is not against the rules, nor is artificially increasing the weight of ratings by exploiting a shittily designed ratings weight system.

DinduNuffin deserved to be called an idiot, because he is a fucking idiot that started an illegal contest on this site, encouraging members in various countries to commit a crime for a chance to win money he never intended to pay out.

Additionally, the vast majority of my non-automated ratings were positive, aside from a select few which I would otherwise happily defend if the following didn't apply.

This site has slowly become worthless to me, its design is outdated, the general populace is retarded, the ratings system is broken, the anon feature is useless (I was going to mention the exploit before my rating were removed, but fuck that), and legitimate discussion of vendors is prohibited due to a profit incentive because smoothly integrated monetization is apparently too difficult a concept to implement for you guys.

The rules are draconian, and with the addition of trigger happy mods I I'm done with this mickey-mouse horse-shit.

Peace out bitches.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23658675 - 09/19/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Huh, thanks for the heads up, I really thought we had closed all the vulnerabilities related to anonymous posting. I'll have to take a look at the code and see if I can figure it out. If one of our members beats me to it, I'll send $100 via Paypal to anyone who discloses how to get someone's identity from an anonymous post. No questions asked and it can be completely private and anonymous. Please contact me via PM or e-mail ythan@shroomery.org. :cheers:


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Invisiblefalsereality


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Ythan]
    #23658742 - 09/19/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Ythan said:
Huh, thanks for the heads up, I really thought we had closed all the vulnerabilities related to anonymous posting. I'll have to take a look at the code and see if I can figure it out. If one of our members beats me to it, I'll send $100 via Paypal to anyone who discloses how to get someone's identity from an anonymous post. No questions asked and it can be completely private and anonymous. Please contact me via PM or e-mail ythan@shroomery.org. :cheers:




I'm permanently banned from paypal because I hacked paypal :smirk:.

Counter-offer: I'll give you the code to de-anon users and outline what changes need to be made to remove the most obvious attack vector for 1k USD in BTC.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 5
    #23658773 - 09/19/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Heh, no thanks, at my current hourly rate I'm pretty sure I can figure it out for less than that. But I do appreciate your bringing a potential vulnerability to my attention! I'll be glad to hook you up with a free supporter account for that if you want. :smirk:


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Ythan] * 3
    #23658820 - 09/19/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Ythan said:
Heh, no thanks, at my current hourly rate I'm pretty sure I can figure it out for less than that. But I do appreciate your bringing a potential vulnerability to my attention! I'll be glad to hook you up with a free supporter account for that if you want. :smirk:




:lol:. touché. How about we settle in the middle with you reinstating my ratings in turn for the exploit?


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 5
    #23658843 - 09/19/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hah, very well you win this round Mr. reality... sounds more than fair. E-mail me please at ythan@shroomery.org? :cheers:


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23658869 - 09/19/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Will do. Thanks Ythan!


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23659094 - 09/19/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So are you back in?


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Re: I'm Out [Re: idiotek]
    #23659117 - 09/19/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

idiotek said:
So are you back in?




I was never out. All I really wanted in the first place was to get my ratings back.



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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 6
    #23659129 - 09/19/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I know, ratings are super important, that's why I'm so excited to give you one when yours get restored.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: idiotek]
    #23659187 - 09/19/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

idiotek said:
I know, ratings are super important, that's why I'm so excited to give you one when yours get restored.




I don't directly care about the my ratings, I think they're a nice touch, but it's pretty fucking insulting to just remove someone's ability to use a core site feature because said feature was poorly designed and easily exploited (without breaking site rules).

Using the excuse "Flamin'" because I called someone an "idiot" was such a bullshit reason to permanently disable my ratings.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23659262 - 09/19/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Send it to me as well. Is it in PHP?


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Re: I'm Out [Re: John Nada]
    #23659524 - 09/19/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for reinstating my ratings ythan, I'll email you the exploit and fix within 48hrs. I would do it sooner but I'm kinda preoccupied with a client today. 

Quote:

John Nada said:
Send it to me as well. Is it in PHP?




PHP/XML... and no, not sending it to you.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23662327 - 09/20/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Gross. Send it to me anyway. :smirk:

And I don't care about the actual exploit, I just want to look at the code. You can wait til Ythan fixes it if you like.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23667101 - 09/22/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I applaud how you handled this falsereality. Thumbs up :thumbup:


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23667143 - 09/22/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ratings are things that say people care (or dont care) about me.  :tongue:


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Edited by sprinkles (09/22/16 08:14 AM)


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23667194 - 09/22/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@Ythan
The exploit vector string is CVSS:3.0/AV:N/AC:H/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:L/E:P/RL:O/RC:R/CR:L/IR:L/AR:L/MAV:N/MAC:H/MPR:N/MUI:N/MC:L/MI:N/MA:L

Meaning that the attack complexity is high, complex enough to where de-anonymizing members takes a non-negligible amount of effort, although there is an easy patch, it would require modification of source code which I don't have access to. Network pattern analysis was used in a proof of concept model to de-anonymize a user by means of tracking time intervals between posts of a targeted member and correlating time intervals between posts in a sub-forum presumed to be used by the suspected member; by forming a Markov matrix from the collected data, a probability can be determined that anon#x is "$username". The accuracy of the program is logarithmically proportional to the amount of data collected.

I don't personally use facebook, but a similar example of this method was used to determine the sleep cycles of people's friends on facebook messenger:



A simple patch for this is to reduce the precision of post timestamps when a user posts anonymously, a more secure approach would be to randomize when an anonymous post is actually submitted to the time it is publicly viewable, although I think this would be overkill.

The actual code was refactored into python, let me know if you still want me to email you it. I figured it was harmless enough to post the methodology because the fix wouldn't take much time at all.

One of my other suggestions is to change the ratings weight system to give more weight to users that have received more positive ratings, instead to those that have handed them out (like I did with an automated rating program).

Quote:

Asante said:
I applaud how you handled this falsereality. Thumbs up :thumbup:




I probably could have been less of a dick, but thanks :smile: :cheers:


Edited by falsereality (09/22/16 05:26 AM)


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23667340 - 09/22/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for explaining the basic logic. That's all I really wanted to know. Very interesting.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: John Nada] * 4
    #23667383 - 09/22/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

John Nada said:
Thanks for explaining the basic logic.




I LOL'd that you pretended to understand stuff.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: sprinkles]
    #23667427 - 09/22/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hush, Sprinkles, real humans are talking.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: John Nada] * 2
    #23668340 - 09/22/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You're fucking out, I'm fucking in.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23668482 - 09/22/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain. It's always nice to get a vulnerability report from someone who knows what they're talking about! I do wish you'd approached me about it directly, we're not stingy with our bug bounties and we're always looking for opportunities to partner with talented programmers to further develop the site. But, I understand you may not be looking for more professional obligations, and it can be hard to resist poking at a site's code. I've certainly been guilty of this myself over the years. I wouldn't trust a programmer who's never been curious enough to poke around where they don't belong!

So basically, we don't seem to be leaking privileged information, this comes down to the fact that we typically only have ~100 - 300 registered members online at any one time, and using historical data it's possible to narrow that pool by correlating the timestamp of anonymous posts with the timestamp of non-anonymous posts, and figuring out both the common times a user is likely to post and also how much time tends to elapse between them posting. With this information it can be possible to make an informed guess at the identity of an anonymous poster, although it wouldn't be possible to confirm.

I'm not convinced this is as effective as you claim. For example, these are the top five threads in the Anon forum at the moment:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23663667#23663667
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22390595#22390595
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23491387#23491387
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23448803#23448803
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23643081#23643081

You've said you have a proof-of-concept, but are you actually able to identify the OP in any one of those threads with reasonable confidence? (Obviously, if so, please only reveal them to me privately.) I feel like I understand your description, but I can't get your reported results with my implementation (even with full access to our metadata, and the ability to check my accuracy and iterate based on the results). If you have working code we might want to buy it from you, if for no other reason than to help test our remediation efforts. But it'd have to work a lot better than my own attempt. In the past I've played around with similar concepts for puppet detection, and they were never anywhere close to accurate enough to put into service.

As far as the ratings go, you definitely exposed an example where our algorithm could be manipulated, and we need to fix it (by changing our formula, not by banning people who try to take advantage of it :tongue:). I've adjusted things so your exploit is no longer viable, but I'll need to set aside some time to pursue a better formula which more accurately reflects our intentions.

Also, I want to thank you because your post got me looking through our code more closely and I did find one vulnerability which could directly reveal any anonymous poster. But our members should know that's fixed now, it was due to a decomissioned script in a non-standard location, and in the access logs we've retained, I don't see any hits which might have revealed sensitive data.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Ythan]
    #23668614 - 09/22/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:blah: castle of words I understand not.


nerds will rule the land when virtual reality hits mainstream.  no one will live in reality anymore.  people will find it easier to manipulate a false reality than real reality to attain what they want.  Just jam in a feeding tube, urinary catheter, and butt irrigation thingie and hook me up to the virtual land please.

Thank goodness the end of the church age is coming (the Armageddons).  I'll be raptured the fuck out while yawl deal with atomic war and stuff like that.  :haha:


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Re: I'm Out [Re: sprinkles]
    #23669611 - 09/22/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey if you ever need someone to design a new site feature, I've been programming for about a decade, and am always looking for new revenue streams and business partners :wink:. I think with the right search engine optimization, social media marketing, and a touch of asymmetrical cyber-warfare this site could easily become the dominant drug forum on the internet, increasing the profitability of this site by a significant margin.

As far as poking around where I don't belong, man, I could tell you some crazy stories.

I believe your implementation didn't work that well because not enough data was collected. The accuracy of the exploit is logarithmically proportional to the amount of data analyzed. I wrote the code specifically for romper-room usage because there's such a huge pool of data to pull from (not that I actually used it to de-anon people, that would be hella sacrilegious imo). I'll take a look at those links and shoot you an email if I can de-anon the posters, no promises though.

I have a few ideas on how to improve the puppet tracker via language style analysis, however it might be overkill to bust a puppet :lol:.

I also think that moving the site/hosting/legal-entity to a different country could drastically reduce potential legal liability. A few nuclear bunkers converted into data centers in europe/asia spring to mind...

Not to mention DDOS-proof IRC channels accessible over TOR.

Thank you for taking the time to respond in-depth Ythan, it is highly appreciated and I'm glad we could reach a mutually beneficial agreement.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23672905 - 09/24/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you can program and design web pages but you cant use the "reply" feature?  oh ok. 


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Re: I'm Out [Re: sprinkles]
    #23673701 - 09/24/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sprinkles said:
you can program and design web pages but you cant use the "reply" feature?  oh ok. 


false claims




:lol: I use the reply function when it's not obvious who I'm replying to.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23674191 - 09/24/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you're too cool.  will you be my friend? will you tell me how to be cool cause I also want to be cool.  I wanna be like them uber cool kids.  not the ones who probably arent cool in real life but they are really cool here.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #23674256 - 09/24/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sprinkles said:
you're too cool.  will you be my friend? will you tell me how to be cool cause I also want to be cool.  I wanna be like them uber cool kids.  not the ones who probably arent cool in real life but they are really cool here.




Yah sure, I need some bitch-work to be done to redo the graem panel so it loads faster. All the hard parts are done, I need each category of graems to be organized in xml files like so:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<emotions>
<emotion>um</emotion>
<emotion>smile</emotion>
<emotion>laugh</emotion>
<emotion>grin</emotion>
<emotion>biggrin</emotion>
<emotion>cool</emotion>
<emotion>evil</emotion>
<emotion>wowz</emotion>
<emotion>uhoh</emotion>
<emotion>hehehe</emotion>
<emotion>naughty</emotion>
<emotion>uptosomething</emotion>
<emotion>meanlaugh</emotion>
<emotion>suckit</emotion>
<emotion>finger</emotion>
<emotion>wink</emotion>
<emotion>smirk</emotion>
<emotion>crazy</emotion>
<emotion>lol</emotion>
<emotion>lolz0rz</emotion>
<emotion>lmafo</emotion>
<emotion>laugh2</emotion>
<emotion>rotfl</emotion>
<emotion>rofl2</emotion>
<emotion>dielaughing</emotion>
<emotion>yesnod</emotion>
<emotion>geordinod</emotion>
<emotion>handth</emotion>
<emotion>super</emotion>
<emotion>tongue2</emotion>
<emotion>imslow</emotion>
<emotion>moneyeyes</emotion>
<emotion>loveeyes</emotion>
<emotion>inlove2</emotion>
<emotion>flowers</emotion>
<emotion>kiss</emotion>
<emotion>love</emotion>
<emotion>inlove</emotion>
<emotion>hotidea</emotion>
<emotion>undecided</emotion>
<emotion>lipsrsealed</emotion>
<emotion>confused</emotion>
<emotion>ooo</emotion>
<emotion>shocked</emotion>
<emotion>blush</emotion>
<emotion>tongue</emotion>
<emotion>whistling</emotion>
<emotion>rofl</emotion>
<emotion>stars</emotion>
<emotion>ashamed</emotion>
<emotion>doh</emotion>
<emotion>foreheadslap</emotion>
<emotion>facepalm</emotion>
<emotion>bored</emotion>
<emotion>evil2</emotion>
<emotion>mad</emotion>
<emotion>mad2</emotion>
<emotion>enraged</emotion>
<emotion>grrr</emotion>
<emotion>doublefu</emotion>
<emotion>crankey</emotion>
<emotion>gc</emotion>
<emotion>psycrankey</emotion>
<emotion>vaped</emotion>
<emotion>cuss</emotion>
<emotion>smile2</emotion>
<emotion>bomb</emotion>
<emotion>rant</emotion>
<emotion>razz</emotion>
<emotion>nonono</emotion>
<emotion>shake</emotion>
<emotion>cuckoo</emotion>
<emotion>noway</emotion>
<emotion>nono</emotion>
<emotion>snub</emotion>
<emotion>rolleyes</emotion>
<emotion>whatever</emotion>
<emotion>boring</emotion>
<emotion>yawn</emotion>
<emotion>drool2</emotion>
<emotion>drooling</emotion>
<emotion>dead</emotion>
<emotion>shiftyeyes</emotion>
<emotion>paranoid</emotion>
<emotion>oogle</emotion>
<emotion>eek</emotion>
<emotion>what</emotion>
<emotion>what2</emotion>
<emotion>argh</emotion>
<emotion>crazyeyes</emotion>
<emotion>weirdeyes</emotion>
<emotion>nut</emotion>
<emotion>unbelievable</emotion>
<emotion>shocked2</emotion>
<emotion>wow</emotion>
<emotion>crazy2</emotion>
<emotion>whoa</emotion>
<emotion>omgz</emotion>
<emotion>whoah</emotion>
<emotion>cloud9</emotion>
<emotion>jawdrop</emotion>
<emotion>frown</emotion>
<emotion>sad</emotion>
<emotion>crying</emotion>
<emotion>emocry</emotion>
<emotion>bitch</emotion>
<emotion>cryariver</emotion>
<emotion>hissyfit</emotion>
<emotion>schoolsout</emotion>
<emotion>hangovershades</emotion>
<emotion>tinfoil</emotion>
<emotion>sadyes</emotion>
<emotion>tearchalice</emotion>
<emotion>cellphone</emotion>
<emotion>tunnel</emotion>
<emotion>phreaklove</emotion>
<emotion>awesome</emotion>
<emotion>awesomenod</emotion>
<emotion>awesanta</emotion>
<emotion>tensegrin</emotion>
<emotion>lmao</emotion>
<emotion>pressure</emotion>
<emotion>excitingthread</emotion>
<emotion>thathurts</emotion>
<emotion>dontdothat</emotion>
<emotion>sadanddisappointed</emotion>
<emotion>fangirl</emotion>
<emotion>godno</emotion>
<emotion>bluegirl</emotion>
<emotion>flop</emotion>
<emotion>regretthumbsup</emotion>
</emotions>



Just do that and then I'll discuss terms with Ythan for the complete code, SVS's ban being overturned is term numero uno, and I'll cut you in if we can reach an agreement that involves cash/btc payment.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Ythan]
    #23675257 - 09/24/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Ythan said:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22390595#22390595





I have the real name of this poster, his DOB, age, address and mugshot along with the the guy anon#1 was posting about. Although I used data mining, and not an exploit.

Also shot you an email Ythan, although not with the posters' info, unless you want me to send it to you. DOXXing people is kind of a step beyond finding someone's user name.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Ythan] * 7
    #23676131 - 09/25/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:
I applaud how you handled this falsereality. Thumbs up :thumbup:




Dude!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23674256#23674256

He's hanging shit on you, don't take that shit!


For real though, I think the staff should be concerned about Falsereality.

"This site has slowly become worthless to me, its design is outdated, the general populace is retarded, the ratings system is broken, the anon feature is useless (...) and legitimate discussion of vendors is prohibited due to a profit incentive because smoothly integrated monetization is apparently too difficult a concept to implement for you guys."

Then he goes on to say:
"Additionally, the vast majority of my non-automated ratings were positive"

He thinks the community is crap and yet he has rated most people positively. How does this make sense? Who cares, it's ratings. My point is that he's full of shit. I think that's obvious as he's still regularly participating in this horrible forum because his beautiful ratings were given back to him.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23673891#23673891
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falsereality said:
I have an ace up my sleeve that would completely compromise access to the site for a decent period of time. I like this site though :shrug:, and I'm saving this for a black-swan event where I need to reverse a mod/admin's decision.

Calling the site worthless was a bluff (ergo, poker gif), this site is a cool place to talk to chill people and I legitimately want to help to make it better, not only from a security perspective, but also improving/adding user features and decreasing legal liability.

I can't share email correspondences with Ythan, but I would say there is a good chance SVS will get unbanned soon.




I decided to make this post after reading the above post of Falsereality's. This guy talks like a terrorist. They also seem like someone that gets off on other's fear. He's liar and admits to deliberately using such conniving tactics to get what he does not deserve. He did post the above post in the Romp though, so i don't expect him to be banned for such a thing, but considering the recent circumstances i wanted to mention this post to make sure that the admins take all of this into consideration because he seems very legit and unshroomy to me.

Edit: rephrased a bad sentence, and fixed the reply to


Edited by Magenta (09/26/16 06:41 PM)


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Re: I'm Out [Re: Magenta]
    #23677276 - 09/25/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Magenta said:
blahblahblaah




I'm predominantly a businessman magenta. I have no legal obligation to point out exploits I have found, and testing theoretical exploits in a foreign blackbox environment is dangerous, especially if you care about the site you've found a *potential* exploit for.

As far as my quid-pro-quo attitude, yeah, if I can deliver a service to someone in exchange for something other than money, I'm happy to do so, as the costs are simply turned into virtual changes.

If you would please fuck off from this conversation that would be great, I'm currently writing a response to ythan on this exact subject, and I started writing said email before you posted this bullshit.

As far as "speaking like a terrorist" :rofl:. I've been around the block quite a few times handling business negotiations, forgive me if I offered up a much faster graem panel for reduced ban time for SVS's. What the fuck is so terroristic about that? I wasn't even asking to get paid, just a reduction of his ban.

Ythan rejected my proposal and in-turn, I'm just going to give him the new graem panel for free, no strings attached.

As far as the exploit I mentioned in the RR, it's still in early development. Not like I can just hand over an unfinished project. BTW, I would never maliciously attack the site like that regardless of circumstances.

Anyways, I'm done defending myself over nothing to a person that knows absolutely nothing about this situation.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23677626 - 09/25/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Never? That's not what you just recently said.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: PLURAL]
    #23677636 - 09/25/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Treana said:
Never? That's not what you just recently said.




:confused: I would be happy to clarify anything I have said.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality] * 7
    #23679574 - 09/26/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You may be a great coder and security expert, but you seem incapable of rendering assistance without bragging about it.


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Re: I'm Out [Re: koods]
    #23679588 - 09/26/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
You may be a great coder and security expert...




Thanks koods!


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Re: I'm Out [Re: falsereality]
    #23689174 - 09/29/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you can safely secure my crap so my man cop doesnt get into it?  i have my suspicions.  :ifyoucanawe:


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