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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656386 - 09/18/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@logicalchaos, @spiritashadow,

so there is the question of the speaker's intent, what compels the speaker, and there is the question of association.  sirs, may we begin here?

now first we must not concern ourselves with what the speaker says.  the speaker is no guru.  no teacher.  the speaker has nothing that you don't have inside of you sirs.  so don't take anything that is said here as gospel.  find out!  find out in yourselves if it is true!  watch the flow of the mind sirs. 

so there is the matter of approximation, its nature mechanically.  its piece in the integrated processes of the mind, of perception, thought, and behaviour, which are one.

imagine sir, looking down into a dark room.  where there is an object.  you cannot see the object, it is too dark.  then, a man shines a light onto one side of the object from floor level.  a portion of the object is illuminated.  from the perception of the light source, one side of the object is clear.  it is focused in on.  that is, his perception of the object is 100% composed of lighted side.  0% the darkened side.  he then approximates the object from this angle. 

now, from your hypothetical perspective, that is, you are watching this scene unfold from above, what do you see?  surely you see something else. 

the man on ground level with the flashlight demonstrates the approximation of an object, person, or concept.  his perspective allows him to see one side of the object, whereas you see another angle. 

so the nature of approximation is to skew the image of a person, object, or concept into a smaller highlighted integrated element of itself.  effectively, approximation skews perception, thought and action. 

if you look sir, you will see the many example of this.  think of the objects and the people in your life and see how you describe them?  see if it is not a series of approximations on scales of value?  surely you'll see that every descriptor you use is a relative, comparative term.  it is an approximation relative to your experience with things in that category.  it is not truth. 

truth can be unlocked only through relationship.  that is, as we see in the example above, the perceiver can discern only one perspective, so integrated perspectives are needed to discern the whole nature of anything.  communion sir.   

now the same is true on all levels of approximation.  not merely those obvious examples, like how we approximate our wives, houses, or jobs, but those subtle examples of inward, self approximation.  those preconceptions/approximations about the self and environment that skew the understanding of the integral nature of things. 

now find out if this is true sir.  don't assume what the speaker says is truth.  you must find out!  watch yourself the next time you allow your thoughts to wander.  watch them slip into approximation, that is, watch then engage in the development of preconception, and remember the man with the flashlight in the dark room.



Ah but do you see the flaw there? Since all of our minds function in the same way more or less mechanically (like an algorithm) there is a limited amount of "angles" to be percieved. So in the end is that real discernment?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: falsereality]
    #23656450 - 09/18/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

what value?  your attention?  sir, if you are not interested, don't pay attention.  or if you feel this is illegal in your area, then please don't participate.  the speaker has said repeatedly, don't do anything illegal. 

this is not a lottery sir.  not a contest.  not a sweepstakes that the speaker is running.  we are together going to make an agreement.  surely it is not illegal for a group of people to agree on something!  to decide!  remember sir, we have to agree, ALL OF US.  is it illegal for a group of people to decide, mutually, that one of them should be gifted money?  that is a mutually discerned gift sir, not a prize.

Edited by DinduNuffin (09/18/16 05:59 PM)

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656466 - 09/18/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@spiritshadow,

that's it sir!!  increased number of angles meeting in communion, increased perspective, increased apprehension of the what is.  oh sir you see!  oh indeed!!

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656469 - 09/18/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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what value?  your attention?  sir, if you are not interested, don't pay attention.  or if you feel this is illegal in your area, then please don't participate.  the speaker has said repeatedly, don't do anything illegal. 

this is not a lottery sir.  not a contest.  not a sweepstakes that the speaker is running.  we are together going to make an agreement.  surely it is not illegal for a group of people to agree on something!  to decide!  remember sir, we have to agree, ALL OF US.  is it illegal for a group of people to decide that one of them should be gifted money?  that is a mutually discerned gift sir, not a prize.




I'm not doing anything illegal. You are. By offering a chance to win something of value (money) for something that someone would otherwise not do (take a foot of psychedelic cacti and write up a report) you legally fulfilled the requirements for a written contract to be enforceable in the United States. Because it's impossible for everyone to unanimously agree, you are removing the chance to win aforementioned money from the equation, which makes your challenge illegal.

If you chose a winner I wouldn't have a problem with this bullshit because at least someone will take your 5k.

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: falsereality]
    #23656498 - 09/18/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

why do you say the agreement of all participants is impossible?

Edited by DinduNuffin (09/18/16 06:15 PM)

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656506 - 09/18/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@falsereality,

why do you assume the agreement of all participants is illegal?




Because the agreement of all participants will never happen, because I'll always be there to disagree with you :smirk:.

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: falsereality]
    #23656531 - 09/18/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

why would we disagree sir?

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656613 - 09/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@falsereality,

why would we disagree sir?




Why? Because you never intended to pay out.

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: falsereality]
    #23656668 - 09/18/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@falsereality,

why would we disagree sir?




Why? Because you never intended to pay out.



Well that doesn't seem very fair.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23656677 - 09/18/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Earn metaphorical big money? Something is amiss here.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23656705 - 09/18/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

now sir, i hope you see the depth of this.  this is not so simple like a lottery or a contest.  this is an invitation to a group project.  where we will discern that nature of the self across a multitude of perceptions.  multiple angles of light. 

so to find a winner we must move along a trail of logic together as a group.  we must do this without hate, without greed.  without the inflation of value.  that is, the moment the BIG BIG MONEY is seen as having more value than truth, a winner cannot be discerned.

do you see the significance of this sir?  i hope you appreciate this.  really.  do you see the significance of what happens when a group stops asserting subjective approximations and meets in earnest dialog?  sir, all over the world there are bombs going off.  people being exploited by big business, by each other, and here there is an attempt at engendering communion while unveiling true perception through KRISHNAMURTI'S METACONCEPT and you worry about the laws now?

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23656716 - 09/18/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Earn metaphorical big money? Something is amiss here.




@partofthesource,

indeed there is.  sir the speaker has been accused of a crime.  we are finding out if it is true.  @falsereality suggest this is an illegal lottery.  the speaker suggests it is instead an intricate maze of SELF KNOWLEDGE and KRISHNAMURTI.  in the meantime, the money is metaphorical. 

do you think entering this project/challenge for a chance to agree upon 1 winner for a gift is pushing some legal limit?  what are your thoughts sir.

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin] * 1
    #23656735 - 09/18/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I see you've edited the OP..........

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I've lol'd at enough of these threads to know it will be metaphorical $$, or some spiritual carrot he waves in front of people.




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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: brk]
    #23656750 - 09/18/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I see you've edited the OP..........

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brk said:
I've lol'd at enough of these threads to know it will be metaphorical $$, or some spiritual carrot he waves in front of people.







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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: brk]
    #23656758 - 09/18/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@BRK, @falsereality,

is a challenge like this illegal sir?  surely it is not a promotion but rather an invitation to a group project.  @falsereality seems to think there is something wrong with the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE.  it is not a promotion.  it is not a lottery.  so surely it's not illegal to ask people to legally participate in an earnest, civilized, discussion.  what do you think sir?

and @mods, what are your thoughts? 

Edited by DinduNuffin (09/18/16 07:33 PM)

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656767 - 09/18/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@BRK,

is a challenge like this illegal sir?  surely it is not a promotion but rather an invitation to a group project.  @falsereality seems to think there is something wrong with the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE.  it is not a promotion.  it is not a lottery.  so surely it's not illegal to ask people to legally participate in a discussion.  what do you think sir?



The way I see it is you are giving people incintive to join in on theory. The money is just a gift to whoever earns it...but that is just one angle.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23656777 - 09/18/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@BRK, @falsereality,

is a challenge like this illegal sir?  surely it is not a promotion but rather an invitation to a group project.  @falsereality seems to think there is something wrong with the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE.  it is not a promotion.  it is not a lottery.  so surely it's not illegal to ask people to legally participate in an earnest, civilized, discussion.  what do you think sir?

and @mods, what are your thoughts? 




By changing the terms of the contract (OP) you just destroyed incriminating evidence, which is a felony in the united states, you fucking idiot.

Edited by falsereality (09/18/16 07:39 PM)

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: falsereality]
    #23656787 - 09/18/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

the speaker is not in the united states sir.  and the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE is not a promotion.

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin] * 3
    #23656801 - 09/18/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It seems everyone is concerned with the object and the angle of the light when they should really be concerned with who is holding the light and the location of the room.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23656835 - 09/18/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@falsereality,

sorry sir, but you are totally wrong about THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE being illegal.

https://www.thebalance.com/why-have-skill-testing-questions-for-sweepstakes-896839

https://www.thebalance.com/guide-to-contests-sweepstakes-and-lotteries-896872

since the speaker doesn't benefit financially, and the winner is not chosen at random, THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE, THE CHANCE TO WIN BIG BIG MONEY, is completely legal.

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