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Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"?
    #23654813 - 09/18/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I figure this community is as good as any other to garner some opinions on the Law of Attraction. It's been discussed since the 1800s and covered in some recent popular books.

If you're not familiar, here's the gist: Wikipedia

Today I learned that an acquaintance of mine from college died hiking in Brazil two years ago. He seemed like a bright person, full of ambition and with a very positive energy. Reading his website/blog he apparently embraced the Law of Attraction ideology.

Any personal experiences to share?


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave] * 3
    #23654842 - 09/18/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In extremo, people in states of extreme poverty are often the most upbeat and generous, for as far as their need allows.





Look at this, just look at this. Where is this kid's Abundance that comes with his Goodness and Positivity? Where are his millions, house with swimming pool and $200K net job?

Many "Law Of Attraction" types are enfuriatingly entitled firstworlders who blame other peoples troubles, which are much worse than theirs, on those people theselves so they can be happy, happy happy, and tweet lofty spiritual messages about how great it is to stick your head in the sand, on an iPhone made by exploitation of third world labor, with use of Coltan minerals that children just like this one have to dig out of the toxic mud with their bare hands.

They blame the hardship and slave labor that gave rise to their affordable iPhone on the victims of this oppression themselves "because they dont think positively enough"

Watch me shove that iPhone right up your ass so you can google search "Wake Up" with your head up there  :smokerage:


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23654866 - 09/18/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What he said.

The law of attraction is a concept issued for middle class people to feel good and keep themselfs motivated. It's not a bad idea as it can push you to do some good, and we all know it's easy to be miserable, wherever you are in life. So it can be helpful concept but it's a very hipocritical one. It assumes that cancer victims died solely because they weren't strong enough to stay positive. It puts blame on you and your family if your parents died in a car accident. And all that Asante said in addition to that. It's somewhat like religion- can be helpful but certainly is not true.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Tabernanthe] * 1
    #23654868 - 09/18/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just like your bright, believing, positive friend. No amount of his positivity and belief could save him from premature death. It would be disrespecting of his memory to blame him for it.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Tabernanthe]
    #23654902 - 09/18/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tabernanthe, welcome to the Shroomery!

Did you ingest Iboga?

Theres a small number of us but its growing.




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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Asante]
    #23656372 - 09/18/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with both of your perspectives. Taken in part, it can certainly do some good in a person's life (as can anything that promotes positive thinking).

As a belief system, it clearly has the flaws you both addressed.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23656395 - 09/18/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

not a Trump thread. *leaves thread to trolls*


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23656400 - 09/18/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's bullshit.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: falsereality]
    #23656406 - 09/18/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you set your mind on something and actually stay focused, you will more than likely attain it :shrug:

I believe in it but obviously it has limits


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: falsereality]
    #23656443 - 09/18/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's real.







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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #23656612 - 09/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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In extremo, people in states of extreme poverty are often the most upbeat and generous, for as far as their need allows.









the sucker is pointing the wrong direction, the kids is accepting a second.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23656621 - 09/18/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Prisoner, you're a glass half-empty type of guy aren't 'cha?


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23656629 - 09/18/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

just full of compost, and needs to lapse into the dirt already.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23656667 - 09/18/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

even if a good attitude doesn't bring good things into your life, it sure takes some of the stink off the shitty things that do.

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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23656792 - 09/18/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Asante said:
In extremo, people in states of extreme poverty are often the most upbeat and generous, for as far as their need allows.









the sucker is pointing the wrong direction, the kids is accepting a second.




I was just about to say that. Asante, you love to make up your own version of reality.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: danielx]
    #23656809 - 09/18/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

actually that's you. you're inferring from the ontological perspective of someone in reality peering into a photo of another reality outside of your own, that was taken perhaps randomly, and you're ascribing a context to it, one which you couldn't possibly know the actual reality of.

for all you or Troll#1 knows, the kid merely thought to pass it over stick first, you know, sensibly, like a person with a brain instead of the lack thereof would do. who the fuck passes food on a stick food side first?

only retards.

*excuse the vomit, i tend to turn off my brain posting on these boards, it's the same message every time i visit. someone is saying something rampantly stupid, and they need to be told how and why that is, and it gets annoying. i tend to just post as quick as possible, my impressions, and edit my posts, as they tend to bifurcate down different avenues of thought, which is ill-construction of my impressions. though, there is so much to say, and many ways to say it, it gets to be narrowed down into the usual impressions, here, considering nothing evolves here.*


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23657556 - 09/19/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I did Asante. Seems like this is the only place people decode easily my nick :grin:

I did 3 days Iboga Ceremony in Holland, it was painfull.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23657619 - 09/19/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My experience with it has shown it to primarily be willful application of filtering mechanisms to my life.
My time and ability to focus on different things is relatively finite. 
Taking time to really focus on particular desires or plans increases my likelihood of filtering out information or avoiding and ignoring situations that are not conducive to furthering those desires or plans.

When my energy is not focused, end up dabbling in a bit of everything and not really excelling or propelling myself forward in any one area.

To me, that is about the extent of the law of attraction -- it is not really about drawing new opportunities into my life, it is about being prepared to recognize and capitalize on opportunities that are already there. 
Less about causing new things to happen, more about not being too distracted to recognize them already being there.

If not done willfully, the mind will do it anyway.
It is easy to enter a downward spiral by fixating on the negative in my life.
Fixating on the negative results in shitty coping mechanisms, which causes further problems.
If my decision is that things that are good for me are too difficult to bother with due to feeling lousy, that means not bothering with them and ultimately feeling worse.

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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23658476 - 09/19/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Forget the law of attraction, embrace positive thinking, self confidence and optimism.

Prepare for the worst, expect the best, believe in yourself .

Human consciousness has been proven to influence reality , such as in the experiment showing human intention can influence the results of a random number generating machine.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23658488 - 09/19/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Can you provide a source for that?


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave] * 1
    #23658513 - 09/19/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Murphys Quantum law:

If it can go wrong it will go wrong. :thumbup:


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23658573 - 09/19/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Can the human mind affect random number generators? Sounds absurd (especially to a diehard skeptic like me), but this research is coming out of Princeton, not some fringe group. And here is an independent experiment which seems to confirm the effect"



http://noosphere.princeton.edu/measurement.html

http://global-mind.org

A Princeton study


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23658671 - 09/19/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it's a bullshit fairy tale to make rich people feel good about themselves


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23658715 - 09/19/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The law of attraction is true, but only to a certain extent.

If it were true in every aspect, there wouldnt have been a Big Bang and everybody would be gay.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23658719 - 09/19/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If law of attraction was real then every tom, dick, and harry would be winning the lottery. I agree if you put your thoughts and efforts into something then most likely it will happen. But people only remember the instances where it did, and rarely the times it didn't.

Books like the secret prey on naive people who believe they can get rich by thinking positively and sitting on their ass.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: JohnnieYen] * 1
    #23658763 - 09/19/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The best Get Rich Quick scheme involves selling a tantalizing Get Rich Quick scheme. Doesnt have to work, if milions of people give you a dollar it works for you.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23666004 - 09/21/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I base my spirituality on it...


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23666056 - 09/21/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prepare for the worst, expect the best



Is it just me, or is that statement entirely contradictory?

I see it more like this, personally:

"He who is educated by dread [anxiety] is educated by possibility.. When such a person, therefore, goes out from the school of possibility, and knows more thoroughly than a child knows the alphabet that he demands of life absolutely nothing, and that terror, perdition, annihilation dwell next door to every man, and has learned the profitable lesson that every dread which alarms may the next instant become a fact, he will interpret reality differently.."

--Kierkegaard 

"We hate gladiators if they are keen to save their life by any means; we favour them if they openly show contempt for it.  You must realize that the same thing applies to us:  for often the cause of dying is the fear of it.  Dame Fortune, who makes sport with us, says 'Why should I preserve you, base and fearful creature?  You will only receive more severe wounds and stabs as you don't know how to offer your throat.  But you will both live longer and die more easily, since you receive the blade bravely, without withdrawing your neck and putting your hands in the way.  He who fears death will never do anything worthy of a living man.  But he who knows that this was the condition laid down for him at the moment of his conception, will live on those therms, and at the same time he will guarantee with a similar strength of mind that no events take him by surprise.  For by foreseeing anything that can happen as though it will happen he will soften the onslaught of all his troubles, which present no surprises to those who are ready and waiting fo them, but fall heavily on those who are careless in the expectation that all will be well."

--Seneca the younger

More on topic of OP though, I do believe like energy attracts like energy. A rudimentary example would be back when I was an aggressive, violent man, I brought that into my world in abundance through others. Now that I am a peaceful, kind, and loving man, I find others who share a similar spirit coming into my life in abundance. I met (interacted with) ONE person in probably the last year that I don't like. I mean that's just fucking incredible to me, from where I've come from.

I think the fact that you can 'attract' material is fucking horseshit, a fucking tale spun to idiots who would, and want to believe it.

But my experience of life has been the more you share love, the more you feel it, even from yourself. If that aint some rudimentary law of attraction at work I dunno what is...


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23667528 - 09/22/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Its like yesterday I was thinking about tacos, and now I'M EATING FUCKING TACOS!

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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #23667577 - 09/22/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

people assume that, as secular beings, we can ascend from that status, and wish something from attraction through the electro-magnetic waves...but alas now...you can communicate though, in that sense, like meets like, and dislike meets dislike. this transfer can be felt in a sensational way, by which means you manifest that transfer, is variable. there is psychedelic drugs. sex. meditation practice and martial arts. philosophy. emotional connection. ect.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23667593 - 09/22/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I ordered a pair of shades a month ago but had to send them back cause they where a size to small. Yesterday out on the bike path I found the exact same pair of shades except they where a larger size and they fit. It feels like there's some kind of cosmic funny business going on. I also have dreams where I see what will happen before it happens on the next day. On a certain level past and future must be predetermined.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23667597 - 09/22/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I mean of course past is already determined but you know what I mean.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23667880 - 09/22/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

Moonshoe said:
Prepare for the worst, expect the best



Is it just me, or is that statement entirely contradictory?






I don't consider it contradictory.

This is for two simple reasons.

1. Preperation is a huge help in times of adversity. Adversity  anticipated and prepared for is often no adversity at all.

2. Having a positive attitude and expectation of success increases the chance of success.

When you walk into a job interview, you should expect to land the job, because that confidence will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

At the same time, you should anticipate they will ask you all the hardest questions, notice the gap in your resume and ask about it, call your references etc.

Or to put it another way, when you go into a UFC fight, you should expect and believe you will win, but you should anticipate that your enemy will throw everything at you and will exploit any weakness you leave.

If I walk around believing the world is about to end, I will be anxious and unhappy. Instead I have faith and belief that I will live a long happy life. However, I also prepare as much as I can for the very real possibility of a catastrophe at any time.

Optimism and preparation both are better than either alone.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23675641 - 09/25/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I ordered a pair of shades a month ago but had to send them back cause they where a size to small. Yesterday out on the bike path I found the exact same pair of shades except they where a larger size and they fit. It feels like there's some kind of cosmic funny business going on. I also have dreams where I see what will happen before it happens on the next day. On a certain level past and future must be predetermined.




This struck me as pretty funny among all the philosophical answers. Thanks again for everyone's input.

I suppose positive thinking trumps the so-called Law of Attraction. I suspected as much and obviously money grab books like The Secret are primarily consisted of nonsense.


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23675654 - 09/25/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a Libertarian American, god damnit!  Laws can't tell ME what to fucking do!!!


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23675661 - 09/25/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm a Libertarian American, god damnit!  Laws can't tell ME what to fucking do!!!




So are you voting for giant douche or turd sandwich?


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Re: Opinions on "The Law of Attraction"? [Re: snave]
    #23675678 - 09/25/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

DON'T TREAD ON ME MOTHERFUCKERS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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