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ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom
#23654440 - 09/17/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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We just got word that a second raid for CBD oil has taken place in Central Texas in the past week. Most recently a family who runs Hill Country Kratom were raided, all CBD oil and Kratom confiscated, the father was arrested, the arresting officers kicked their dog who was so scared he peed himself. The mother brought the children to a safe place just before CPS showed up.
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Stay tuned for updates.
Read about the raid of People's Pharmacy here: http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2016/09/15/legal-status-of-hemp-oil-products-in-spotlight.html
We have a Kratom Symposium happening RIGHT NOW at Brave New Books and we are developing a game plan. Please let us know if you want to help. You can call the bookstore 512.480.2503 or email us at BraveNewBookStore@gmail.com

I really hope this isn't real and or doesn't become a trend
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23654477 - 09/17/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23654480 - 09/17/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apparently it also happened to a kratom vendor in Colorado according to some reddit comments on this article
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23654483 - 09/17/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man this is fucked up
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23654486 - 09/17/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah its insane... I almost cried when I read that and I still feel like I might, its just so sad and fucked up. I hope they sue the shit out of those pigs.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23654511 - 09/17/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah i still dont know what im going to do, i really feel for those that use kratom to stay off other drugs. Saddest part is its only going to get worse if its already happening now. Truly makes me 
I watched this one guy tell his story and how kratom helped him quit alcohol/prescription pain pills/muscle relaxers/his ssri...the guys kid died and he has all these pain problems and to think just how many others there are like him...kratom saves these peoples lives and theyre taking it away from them.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23654525 - 09/17/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have watched a few videos like that for various issues people are dealing with some I never would have even thought of.
It really is tragic how many good people this will effect.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23654637 - 09/18/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is currently a major push attempting to prevent the ban on kratom being spearheaded by the American kratom association. http://www.americankratom.org/national_call_to_action There was a kratom march on dc last Tuesday and over 400 people showed up. I really think it is possible to prevent this ban. On Tuesday this letter is going to members of congress so if you care at all take the time on Monday to call your Representative. To call your Member of Congress: US Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Dr. Funtime]
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I am more sad about the dog what piece of shit kicks a dog hope they find what they want in hell. And I normally have at least some respect for Feds but burn in hell not cool.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: mushiefeet]
#23654666 - 09/18/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah kicking dogs is seriously low. Sadly cops shooting dogs for little to no reason is not uncommon...
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23654761 - 09/18/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck this shit! Seriously!
So basically a handful of states legalize weed and then the whole fucking country goes and bans another natural substance, Kratom, a plant with natural painkilling properties. It's not even one step forward two steps back anymore it's like 4/50th of a step forward one step back more like it...
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23654930 - 09/18/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have not read this article, but thought kratom and cbd were still legal? You can buy cbd on clearnet with ease.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Lucis]
#23654976 - 09/18/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The states governments are all now changing their rules and guidelines on medical Marijuana now, appointing the state pharmaceutical boards to tax, regulate and come down hard on dispensaries and Cre givers. As was donethis week in Michigan. Also Ohio. Every liscense will have a level of what u can and can't purchase. Also some states only legalized the edibles and now in Ohio Rso is legal, but smoking or any combustible form except vaping has been made illegal. Many states are considering this. Someone here in Michigan got a life sentence for just being caught with the stuff to make the Cannabis oil? Like 20 years, then next week they changed it and now it's legal. Their taxing the crap out of everything now! Kratom on the other hand I believe they were or had made illegal. Kratom is not a safe alternate. I have many friends that use it, like said above to stop other meds But myself a chronic pain patient and have become allergic to most pain pills and now using ketamine, I think it's better to not substitute one drug with another unless u have too! But cbd oil saves lives!
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: chlewis5704]
#23655254 - 09/18/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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cept that kratom is illegal atm. Dont expect the cops here in Texas to be aware of the legal medicinal cannabis oil. They dont give a fuck. Infact, it fucks you more than marijuana. might as well be a felony
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Ogla]
#23655455 - 09/18/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: cept that kratom is illegal atm. Dont expect the cops here in Texas to be aware of the legal medicinal cannabis oil. They dont give a fuck. Infact, it fucks you more than marijuana. might as well be a felony
Yeah, Texas is a fucking asshole about ANYthing that gets someone high, anything except alcohol that is. Glad I moved to CO.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: Yeah, the U.S. is a fucking asshole about ANYthing that gets someone high, anything except alcohol that is.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Amanita86]
#23655515 - 09/18/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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when i was in jail for mushrooms, some people were in for wax. theyre bond was higher than mine. 1500$ i think.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Ogla]
#23655576 - 09/18/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Raided and arrested for legal substances?
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Big Worm] 1
#23655697 - 09/18/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This really is scary. Just like the list the dea has with all our identified names on it.
It would be awesome if we started a thread on here and started using private chats to setup Kratom rallies like the one in DC. I know so many drug users and pro kraik heads! I got peeps to sign the petition but it's a lot more work to take it to the next level if political activism. We need a leader damnit.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: chlewis5704]
#23655734 - 09/18/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fennario said: I have not read this article, but thought kratom and cbd were still legal? You can buy cbd on clearnet with ease.
Read the title, it was a raid on legal products essentially.
They then threatened and blackmailed the family into some bulls hit charges...
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chlewis5704 said: Kratom is not a safe alternate. I have many friends that use it, like said above to stop other meds But myself a chronic pain patient and have become allergic to most pain pills and now using ketamine, I think it's better to not substitute one drug with another unless u have too! But cbd oil saves lives!
What makes you say Keaton isn't a safe alternate? I would say it's as safe and f not more so them cannabis... You don't smoke it you eat it so you get more medicinal effects and it lasts longer.
I get more negative effects from coffee and sugar amongst other things then Keaton.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23655936 - 09/18/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Already got rid of all my krat mid month....Texas sucks don't come here.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: tdubz]
#23655963 - 09/18/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to think Oregon is progressive enough if they tried to pull crap like that hear it would be a major news story but this still has me worried 
More so for all the people actually using kratom for serious ailments in more conservative states then for myself though, I wish them all the best in these dark times.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Dr. Funtime]
#23656206 - 09/18/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Big Worm said: Raided and arrested for legal substances?
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: tripp23]
#23656468 - 09/18/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This makes sense if you really think about it. They are probably shifting from Cannabis to Kratom because of the opiate epidemic and I bet there is a lot more money to be made with opiates fueling powerful addictions than Cannabis could ever provide.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Oggy]
#23657703 - 09/19/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CBD Oil and Kratom or Sex shop accessories?
Tonight at now.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: tdubz]
#23658191 - 09/19/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Already got rid of all my krat mid month....Texas sucks don't come here.
If kratom was illegal in texas at the time of search and seizure, I'm really not surprised. I feel bad for these people, but it's not a surprise to me their house was searched, if kratom's illegal there. They are more public about their business than someone who deals with illegal goods, it probably led the police straight to them.
If kratom was not illegal yet, then I think it's total bs this happened to them.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: bigbitch]
#23658525 - 09/19/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could see this leading to some bloody counter action. Just saying... the law is the law and officers are NOT above it! If they operate outside the law then PEOPLE will be REQUIRED to do so as well. The consequences could be dire.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: travelleler]
#23658716 - 09/19/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kratom is not illegal in Texas yet not till September 28th in which it will be illegal everywhere.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: tdubz]
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tdubz said: Kratom is not illegal in Texas yet not till September 28th in which it will be illegal everywhere.
Well then this is outrageous! I'll be upset if this is true, and these people do not get some sort of settlement.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: bigbitch]
#23660333 - 09/19/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doesn't it say somewhere in the constitution that unjustified laws should be broken by the people.
i feel like leaving america right now. so many bettter places to be.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Everything]
#23660393 - 09/20/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am with you man, I want to live somewhere that actually protects my rights not just the ones it finds convenient...
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420] 1
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Sadly, American views and influence are responsible for drug laws pretty much world wide... Just when a handful of nations seem to be moving in the right direction and decriminalising most if not all substances for personal use, the UK, US etc suddenly swoop down on krat like it is some public health epidemic, I doubt 99% of the populace of any nation outside of East Asia have ever heard of it..
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: egodeathflux]
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We need to:
Kill The King - Masters Of Reality
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420] 1
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Welcome to America where right and wrong means nothing, all that matters here is money, every single person that runs this country is willing to do whatever it takes for more money. America has fallen and will continue to fall no matter who wins the election we are doomed because as a society and a collective we have failed each other, instead of helping people and fighting for a better tomorrow most of you would rather sit and home and catch a buzz.
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
#23677774 - 09/25/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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god damn thats fucked...i knew this kinda shit was coming...
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Re: ALERT: Family Raided for LEGAL CBD Oil and Kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
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Connoisseur said: god damn thats fucked...i knew this kinda shit was coming...
Thankfully since it isn't actually illegal yet the family may be able to sue but I have not looked for or seen any updates.
I did just see a story on Reddit about a mother who got into a fight on facebook about kratom and was reported and Child Protective Services showed up at her house asking about kratom. I guess she had been on methadone but was threatened with losing her son if she didn't get off so she turned to kratom. Anyways they got her to take a drug test and pulled their usual intimidation BS.
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Everything said: Doesn't it say somewhere in the constitution that unjustified laws should be broken by the people.
i feel like leaving america right now. so many bettter places to be.
yes, and I feel your pain believe me. But if we walk off and ignore liberty she will die. If we give up hope we will lose this whole thing, many would argue that it is lost already but that is not the case. The only way it will be lost will be if we THE PEOPLE decide to give up.
Sorry. I'd love to give you a ride outta here to anyplace you desire but you gotta stop and think for just sec... liberty must exist independently from imperialism, therefore it is up to us The People to carry on.
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