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Got swindled by a hospital...
    #23653314 - 09/17/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It happened awhile back but I have been slowly getting more annoyed about it.

Well here is what happened, as a kid I hurt my nose. The cartilage got bent to one side preventing me from using 1 nostril. As a kid especially this gave me a lot of issues when trying to sleep and with breathing comfortable in general. Well awhile back I started looking into procedures that could fix my breathing, made an appointment at a local hospital and went in.

I got a minor surgery to carve out the cartilage blocking my nostril which seemed to go fine. Well fast forward a few weeks later when my nose healed and I realized my breathing was not much if any better. Once my nose was healed completely I felt around and was disheartened to realize they didn't even finish the job... The basically carved out a little bit but didn't even remove the blockage in my nostril...

Well I wasn't sure what I could do about it and since I have partial insurance and only was supposed to pay a couple hundred $ I said whatever...

Fast forward another few weeks and they send at least 2-3 bills, for the surgery for the anesthesia and I think one other, totally over 1,000$...

My mother was going to pay for the surgery as I am a bit broke but after getting the bills she said fuck them and never paid.

After awhile she got a few legal documents about the hospital pressuring her to pay. I think they might have threatened a lawsuit even.

Anyways this whole situation has been pretty stressful. Been wondering if I have any recourse against the hospital for not doing their job and overcharging.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23653397 - 09/17/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's a bit like not paying for a steak because it was overcooked after you ate the whole thing. I don't think the law is on your side.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23653409 - 09/17/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a bit like not paying for a steak because it was overcooked after you ate the whole thing. I don't think the law is on your side.




So if you bought a steak for 25$ and they bring out half a steak and charge you 100$ you would have no problem with it? Because that is a better comparison...

Except its 1,000$ not a steak... And its not like I got anything out of it, they are charging me for something they didn't really do.

I should add this hospital has 2 stars online and literally 50-75% 1 star reviews so clearly I am not the only one they have screwed over.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23653412 - 09/17/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The medical community is only responsible to malpractice and very expensive lawsuits.  Some of the shady things they do like not explaining the risks of treatment.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23653414 - 09/17/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The basically carved out a little bit but didn't even remove the blockage in my nostril...




Are you still having breathing problems? If you claim this, then it means they didn't really do their job. And I feel like you may be able to file a malpractice lawsuit or speak to somebody over at the billing department about the situation if you explain this to them.

Are you under 18? Just curious why they would be pressuring your mom to pay, since she's not legally responsible for it.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23653434 - 09/17/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

File for disability or medicaid, etc. if ur broke, they will pay for yur shit


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23653475 - 09/17/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I can still barely breath out of my right nostril, I am considering emailing the hospital first to see what they say before trying other routes.

I am over 18 but my mom was the one who brought me into the hospital so they probably just had her info.

Would the malpractice thing be for the price difference or becouse they didn't complete the surgery?


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #23653502 - 09/17/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive dealt with this before. Unfortunately once you go so long without paying, you go on a list.
My cities hospital has this one bitch, and all she does is go down the list, calling people, pressuring them to pay. I know its shady cause they always ask for your confirmation of name before disclosing hospital bills, and i never give out my name to random callers.
So its not even really the hospital that handles it. Just some enforcer employee. And if you dodge that, then im sure it goes to law enforcement. What you need to do is not complain about the cost, complain surgery wasnt effective/didnt do what was asked. Make it seem as they didnt do their job. But yeah, like everyone else said.
The hospital is side by side with law enforcement. Most hospitals truly legitamite suck. Half the reason because no employees want a lawsuit, and the other half is mostly scammers. Seriously.
I got 7 stiches at the ER a month ago. And to get removed 10 days later had to pay for an appointment (probably another 1000$) just to snip stitches, which should be a completion of care.
The employees never give a shit. Dont expect them to.
Do not say you cant pay it. Say your care was done completely 100% wrong in every way..thats the only way you can win it/not have to pay.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: SpiritShroom]
    #23653508 - 09/17/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly I care less about not having to pay and more about the fact they overcharged for a job they didn't even really do. I would gladly pay the original price if they actually completed the job. But considering how it went last time I would rather not risk it honestly. Sucks that hospitals are so stingy/ greedy... Real fucking scummy, 1000$ to get stitches removed is criminal.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23653512 - 09/17/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you live in the U.S.? Sounds like something that would happen in the U.S.
Lots of brand spanking new hospitals going up in the area where I'm from, about 5 miles away from each other. I can hear their cash registers chiming away already.

Really, the medical field is inundated with corruption in the U.S.. You've experienced it first hand, so it's not like I need to tell you this, but something big has got to change. There should be zero interest in profits as far as hospitals and medical companies are concerned. The only impetus for engaging with human beings as a healer is in order to heal.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420] * 3
    #23653518 - 09/17/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are offsetting the cost of all the people like yourself who don't end up paying, on the people who don't pay because their bills are too high because the hospital offset the unpaid bills onto them because others weren't paying their bills because they were too high because they were offsetting the cost on those bills to make up the difference from those that didn't pay because their bills were too high.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23653547 - 09/17/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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They are offsetting the cost of all the people like yourself who don't end up paying, on the people who don't pay because their bills are too high because the hospital offset the unpaid bills onto them because others weren't paying their bills because they were too high because they were offsetting the cost on those bills to make up the difference from those that didn't pay because their bills were too high.




That doesn't even make sense though... If they had given me an original price in between the two that included such fees I may have considered it.

But they told me one price then billed me another at least 2-3x as expensive. It can't be legal to just jack up the price becouse of other people not paying their jacked up prices...

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Do you live in the U.S.? Sounds like something that would happen in the U.S.
Lots of brand spanking new hospitals going up in the area where I'm from, about 5 miles away from each other. I can hear their cash registers chiming away already.

Really, the medical field is inundated with corruption in the U.S.. You've experienced it first hand, so it's not like I need to tell you this, but something big has got to change. There should be zero interest in profits as far as hospitals and medical companies are concerned. The only impetus for engaging with human beings as a healer is in order to heal.




Yeah sadly that was my first time going to a hospital as an adult and it was certainly enlightening. I was aware of the corruption somewhat but didn't expect that.

Hopefully alternative medicine stops being laughed at as much and people start realizing if they aren't willing to pay highway robbery fees for ineffective treatment then hospitals won't get away charging them such. In a perfect world any health related stuff would be kept away from capitalism, food water and medical treatment should all the the governments responsibility. If they spent less money on the military it would be possible too...


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23653557 - 09/17/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes I can still barely breath out of my right nostril, I am considering emailing the hospital first to see what they say before trying other routes.

I am over 18 but my mom was the one who brought me into the hospital so they probably just had her info.

Would the malpractice thing be for the price difference or becouse they didn't complete the surgery?




I don't know, you'd have to speak to an attorney. They wouldn't legally come after your mother though, unless she cosigned for you at the hospital, or unless you were under 18.

You should definitely try to get back in touch with the physician and see if he will do another nose job on you for free at least. Or work out some type of plan where they only bill insurance, but not you.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23653587 - 09/17/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She probably cosigned then, it was awhile back so I don't remember really. Almost positive I was 18 though as it wasn't too many years ago.

Sadly I am pretty sure I don't have the insurance any more as I was covered by my fathers work insurance but I believe it stopped once I turned 20.

Will see if I can get hold of the doctor though, I vaguely remember him being indian and having a funny last name like Goldberg :tongue2: I swear I not racist :lol:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23653687 - 09/17/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I know from experience they usually go to a collection agency.  The agency gets a slice of what they recover.  If you are working they can take you to court and collect from your paycheck.  It damages credit to have it go to collection.  The agency cannot take from social security.  The medical community is rich and they plan on keeping it that way.  Debt collectors suck


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23653739 - 09/17/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Go see a Chinese physician next time. They'll heal you by shooting chi up your ying yang.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23653836 - 09/17/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a bit like not paying for a steak because it was overcooked after you ate the whole thing. I don't think the law is on your side.




Here is what its really like:

You go in to buy a steak and start eating until before your halfway done they rush you out they door and then mail you a bill that's 4x what your meal cost...

:wellidunno:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23654316 - 09/17/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I vaguely remember him being indian and having a funny last name like Goldberg :tongue2: I swear I not racist :lol:




He's Indian with a Jewish name?

The truth is you should have gotten this taken care of immediately, not years and years later long after the bills are already in collections and you might be facing a lawsuit.

You will need medical proof that your nose is still blocked though, if you take legal routes. So you will need to go to to the doctor who can independently verify that your nose is still blocked.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23654362 - 09/17/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I realized I kind of screwed myself by taking so long. Part of that is becouse I was expecting a much smaller bill that my mom was going to take care of.

It also took me at least 2-4 weeks to even be able to tell my nose was still clogged and I have never been able to fully admit it to my mom becouse I feel bad :sad:

I am going to talk to her about it though to get a better idea of the current situation and see what I can do. She may have just said fuck it and paid already :shrug:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23654374 - 09/17/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly, now that you've waited so long, I don't think the lawsuit is a viable option anymore. Usually there's a time period that you must file a lawsuit in, and it's usually between 90 days to 6 months after the incident. At least that's the case for small claims, this might be a lot costlier than small claims and might have different time limits.

You should do some research ASAP and see when the deadline is, but if this happened years ago, that time could very well have already passed.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23654396 - 09/17/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I probably wouldn't want to put the time and money necessary into a lawsuit over it anyways. If it was 10K not 1 I might feel differently though :tongue2:

Pretty sure my mom ruined her credit as a kid anyways so its not like this incident will ruin it :lol:

I added to their negative reviews and will probably at least email them but I do intend to see if there is any other recourse.

Mainly wanted to gripe about hospitals and this thread certainly helped me feel better about it so mission accomplished.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23655038 - 09/18/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you under 18?




Indubitably. See 420 username.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23655042 - 09/18/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think you are the first.:sad:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: something super extreme]
    #23655702 - 09/18/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you under 18?




Indubitably. See 420 username.




Says "something super extreme" :rofl2:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23656370 - 09/18/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The worst they can do is hound you with letters and phone calls.
Then they will turn it over to a collection agency and they will hound you with letters and phone calls, Even years later.
The Hospital or collection agency will threaten to sue, but won't because it costs too much.
The only thing they can do is report you to the credit bureau.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: psillyboy]
    #23656415 - 09/18/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty sure that has been happening to my mom since I was a kid anyways. For college debt I think. As soon as I got a phone I would get calls from collectors :lol:


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23657018 - 09/18/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Pretty sure my mom ruined her credit as a kid anyways so its not like this incident will ruin it :lol:




Credit for unpaid bills sticks for only 7 years. After that you start with a clean state.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: psillyboy]
    #23657022 - 09/18/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The worst they can do is hound you with letters and phone calls.
Then they will turn it over to a collection agency and they will hound you with letters and phone calls, Even years later.
The Hospital or collection agency will threaten to sue, but won't because it costs too much.
The only thing they can do is report you to the credit bureau.




Yeah, they generally won't do this, but if your bills exceed $5,000 or something they will for example, repossess your car if you own one. If your bills exceed $100,000 they will even repossess your home.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23657049 - 09/18/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hospital bills are for suckersssss.
No seriously, I owe thousands. I did make the mistake of going to the private hospital in town once instead of the city/public hospital and they ended up garnishing my wages for like a year or more.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23657059 - 09/18/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes I can still barely breath out of my right nostril, I am considering emailing the hospital first to see what they say before trying other routes.

I am over 18 but my mom was the one who brought me into the hospital so they probably just had her info.

Would the malpractice thing be for the price difference or becouse they didn't complete the surgery?



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Yes I can still barely breath out of my right nostril, I am considering emailing the hospital first to see what they say before trying other routes.

I am over 18 but my mom was the one who brought me into the hospital so they probably just had her info.

Would the malpractice thing be for the price difference or becouse they didn't complete the surgery?



If you're over 18 your mom isn't responsible for payment.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23657108 - 09/18/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never said she was responsible I said I was broke and she offered to pay since I had been complain about my breathing for years...

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Hospital bills are for suckersssss.
No seriously, I owe thousands. I did make the mistake of going to the private hospital in town once instead of the city/public hospital and they ended up garnishing my wages for like a year or more.




That's crazy they can get away with that. It's essentially extortion, they overcharge and pad their bills like crazy and even do needless stuff to charge more.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23659754 - 09/19/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I never said she was responsible I said I was broke and she offered to pay since I had been complain about my breathing for years...




You stated that they have been coming after her for payment, and stated something about how her credit is already ruined anyway. That would imply she is the legally and financially responsible party.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23659780 - 09/19/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Read what Koods wrote, I was just saying I was not holding her responsible for paying, she offered.

Clearly she is legally responsible technically becouse she probably signed some agreement making it so.

Its hard to tell what people mean over the internet and I assumed Koods meant that she isn't responsible for paying for me which is what it seems.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23659788 - 09/19/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't listen to much of what Koods has to say. He has the intelligence of a telemarketer.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Great Scott]
    #23659924 - 09/19/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have an ER bill that is over $11,000 for a kidney stone from a few years ago. They overcharged me for my visit so I complained and told them to give me a reasonable price. I offered to send small payments because I didn't have that much money. Then I had another hospital quote me $2000 for the same procedures and told them I would give them $3000 cash. They turned it over to collections, but it hasn't affected my credit score in anyway.


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    #23659968 - 09/19/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, a 9K discrepancy is pretty damn big.


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    #23659984 - 09/19/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that's why I'm not paying. Then I found out the C/T scan they did wasn't even necessary. That was like $9,000 of the bill.

Tell them they didn't do their job correctly and you want your nose fixed. After it's fixed, then argue that they need to give you the price they quoted without the hidden fees. Don't let them boss you around, their prices are negotiable.


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    #23659995 - 09/19/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Always string the bastards along. Always.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23661098 - 09/20/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Read what Koods wrote, I was just saying I was not holding her responsible for paying, she offered.

Clearly she is legally responsible technically becouse she probably signed some agreement making it so.




Well, you would have had to sign a paper agreeing that she is financially responsible, in order for her to be responsible. When you are admitted to the hospital, they also include a piece of paper where you write down the name of the person who is financially responsible.

And even then, they still can't come after her. Because otherwise anybody could simply write down somebody's name, and transfer their debts to another person.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Crystal G]
    #23665434 - 09/21/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pay like $5 a month and tell them that's all you can afford.  Usually they do not take it to the creditors if you're making payments.  I am surprised the insurance didn't cover all the expenses.  It sounds like it was not a cosmetic nose job as much as a breathing issue.  Should of talked with the doctor a bit more about getting the insurance to pay.  They can word it and cover the procedure in a way that it's not plastic surgery.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23665531 - 09/21/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hospitals always swindle you. What I've found is throwing there letters in the trash. Wait it out a year. Just paid off a 1000 bill for 94 dollars. They sell it to creditors and they pay for all of it.

All they did was run some blood work. Ya no. I put it in the not my fucking problem box as I know they can charge 75 for a band aid. Because insurance will pay it. Double scam. Who the fuck cares.


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    #23665542 - 09/21/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I put it in the not my fucking problem box as I know they can charge 75 for a band aid. Because insurance will pay it.




Yeah fuck that noise. It's like the airport bar of the healthcare world.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Great Scott]
    #23665570 - 09/21/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They'll just give up. :shrug:

Before I left Alaska 4 years ago they I od'd on heroin. For a 15 minute drive to the hospital the ambulance ride was 5 grand. Put it in the not my fucking problem box. (trash) until they stopped. It's completely cleared. That wasn't even anything they did to wake me up.

It's a crock of shit. My credit sucks but whatever. Doctors in America are required by law to save your life. But your life is not even there's. Whatever companies that owns the hospital. If I was paying the actual doctor it might be a different story. But fuck that.


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Re: Got swindled by a hospital... [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23665597 - 09/21/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My friend here had his jaw broken going out to a party. Just wanting to have fun. 6 dudes jumped him. He's like 30k in debt. He's like holy fuck I'm in debt for the next 5 years+.

Put it In the not my fucking problem box. On top of student debt and all that. Basically I have to work for 10 years and can't live or do anything. Student debt doesn't go away. Hospital debt does. Every 7 years. Or whenever the creditors give up.


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