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Ways to avoid cellphone radiation?
    #23652185 - 09/17/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi, this is something that's bugged me for a long time... (yes i have ocd)
Now, sure i could relax on the matter - but cell-phones really, are bad for you.. So what's the best way to get around this issue?
I've been thinking about using skype on my computer with a wired ethernet connection for the majority of my calls..  But then sometimes a mobile phone is necessary when out and about trying to co-ordinate with others.

In the case of using a phone while out the house, what can be done to make it safer? I've read about 'air tube' headphones and all sorts..  - i don't know if that's a load of marketing BS ...  I'm certainly wary of something that 'absorbs radiation'... as if you're carrying a Radio-wave 'Conductor' at head level, well that doesn't sound like a great idea to me, as wouldn't it absorb/focus ambient radiation in the direction of your head?

I've been looking at these products:
https://www.rfsafe.com/product-category/phone-radiation-safety/

BUT,,,  i have a feeling they're just cashing in on peoples concerns.. and like i said, i worry they could even make things worse,,,
I'm just off to buy a phone with low SAR rating... Samsung seem to be top dog in that area.. (i need a new one, radiation concerns aside)

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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: bob5]
    #23652198 - 09/17/16 05:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How about a bluetooth headset?

But your ballz might get the cancer instead of your brain :eek:


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23652224 - 09/17/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You could always not use the cell, just sayin. I hate cellphones. Keep it off, and use it in an emergency, keep a charger in your car.

The question is like, how can I eat McDonalds and get ripped at the same time :smile:


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23652249 - 09/17/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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but cell-phones really, are bad for you..




Is that a fact?


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #23652262 - 09/17/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeh dude they beam invisible gamma rays into your brain and slowly give you internal rad poisoning

It just hasn't happened yet because cell phones haven't been around long enough for people to start developing symptoms


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: OnePerEyeM8] * 3
    #23652264 - 09/17/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Two words OP:

tin foil

It's obvious


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? *DELETED* [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23652309 - 09/17/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23652314 - 09/17/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OP the only proven way to avoid radiation is to lock yourself inside and cut off all electricity like that dude from better call saul.




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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23652334 - 09/17/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Or wear a suit made of lead. Radiation cannot pass thru lead.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: bob5]
    #23652336 - 09/17/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: shadyy]
    #23652338 - 09/17/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:hmm: that jpeg has three emblems stating that it is legitimate.  They wouldn't put three unless it really worked, right?


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: bob5]
    #23652341 - 09/17/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OP you shouldnt worry about this. The radiation from sun light is more destructive than the cell phone radiation. Cell phone rads are not ionizing, they cant break DNA strands. Sunlight IS ionizing, it can break DNA strands.

Cellphone radiation can only heat an area of flesh. If your worried about the heat, just use headphones when talking on the phone.

If cellphone radiation was causing cancer, we'd see some results by now. Bran tumor occurrence has been consistent for the past 30 years. The only reason anyone might find an increase in brain tumors in the population is due to medical technology to detect them which has gotten much better in the last 20 years.

So yeah, phone radiation is not Ionizing, Sunlight radiation IS Ionizing. If youre worried about ionizing radiation then you should live in a lead box without windows.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652350 - 09/17/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The innate radiation caused by metabolic processes in the human body is enough to give you cancer. It's also enough to make humans bioluminescent.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: bob5] * 1
    #23652353 - 09/17/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Simplest measure - don't use a cell phone. Problem solved! :cookiemonster:


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: bob5]
    #23652364 - 09/17/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Read up on radiation hormesis, it also might help you chill out about rads.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652383 - 09/17/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Terence McKenna said when a new drug comes out to let the dummies try it out first. Do you think the govt is more concerned with your health or money? I've never used a cellphone for the reason that I distrust putting that thing up to my head. Maybe that is funny for a drug forum. I do not have OCD.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652384 - 09/17/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

From the National Cancer Institute~


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Radiofrequency energy, unlike ionizing radiation, does not cause DNA damage that can lead to cancer. Its only consistently observed biological effect in humans is tissue heating. In animal studies, it has not been found to cause cancer or to enhance the cancer-causing effects of known chemical carcinogens (6–8). The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which is part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), is carrying out a large-scale study in rodents of exposure to radiofrequency energy (the type used in cell phones). This investigation is being conducted in highly specialized labs that can specify and control sources of radiation and measure their effects. Preliminary results from this study were released in May 2016.

Researchers have carried out several types of epidemiologic studies to investigate the possibility of a relationship between cell phone use and the risk of malignant (cancerous) brain tumors, such as gliomas, as well as benign (noncancerous) tumors, such as acoustic neuromas (tumors in the cells of the nerve responsible for hearing), most meningiomas (tumors in the meninges, membranes that cover and protect the brain and spinal cord), and parotid gland tumors (tumors in the salivary glands) (9).

In one type of study, called a case-control study, cell phone use is compared between people with these types of tumors and people without them. In another type of study, called a cohort study, a large group of people who do not have cancer at study entry is followed over time and the rate of these tumors in people who did and didn’t use cell phones is compared. Cancer incidence data can also be analyzed over time to see if the rates of cancer changed in large populations during the time that cell phone use increased dramatically. These studies have not shown clear evidence of a relationship between cell phone use and cancer. However, researchers have reported some statistically significant associations for certain subgroups of people.





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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: 404]
    #23652389 - 09/17/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

HOWEVER: exposure to electromagnetic radiation from cell phones may disrupt neurotransmitters in the brain...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23852905/

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Abstract
BACKGROUND: The use of mobile phones is rapidly increasing all over the world. Few studies deal with the effect of electromagnetic radiation (EMR) on monoamine neurotransmitters in the different brain areas of adult rat.

AIM: The aim of the present study was to investigate the effect of EMR on the concentrations of dopamine (DA), norepinephrine (NE) and serotonin (5-HT) in the hippocampus, hypothalamus, midbrain and medulla oblongata of adult rats.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: Adult rats were exposed daily to EMR (frequency 1800 MHz, specific absorption rate 0.843 W/kg, power density 0.02 mW/cm2, modulated at 217 Hz) and sacrificed after 1, 2 and 4 months of daily EMR exposure as well as after stopping EMR for 1 month (after 4 months of daily EMR exposure). Monoamines were determined by high performance liquid chromatography coupled with fluorescence detection (HPLC-FD) using their native properties.

RESULTS: The exposure to EMR resulted in significant changes in DA, NE and 5-HT in the four selected areas of adult rat brain.

CONCLUSIONS: The exposure of adult rats to EMR may cause disturbances in monoamine neurotransmitters and this may underlie many of the adverse effects reported after EMR including memory, learning, and stress.

PMID 23852905 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]





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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23652392 - 09/17/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
Yeh dude they beam invisible gamma rays into your brain and slowly give you internal rad poisoning





Nope.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: 404] * 2
    #23652395 - 09/17/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

shut the fuck up, we're trying to sell radiation blocking stickers for $60



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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Mojo]
    #23652400 - 09/17/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Mojo said:
Quote:

OhMrJohnson said:
Yeh dude they beam invisible gamma rays into your brain and slowly give you internal rad poisoning





Nope.





correct, gamma rays straight to the brain turn you into the Hulk®


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23652405 - 09/17/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hypothetically, if it could block electromagnetic radiation which does cause disturbances in neurotransmitter levels without altering the connectivity of the device, wouldn't it be worth the buy?


Edited by 404 (09/17/16 08:26 AM)


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: 404]
    #23652430 - 09/17/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i think there's more electromagnetic radiation coming from your computer, or AC unit, electrical box on your house, whatever your using to browse this forum though, so if electromagnetic radiation is bad then we're all getting exposed regardless of the cell phones.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652439 - 09/17/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's no cellphone radiation.

There's like 10 billion cellphone out there and no reported cases of brain explosions anywhere. Just like radio frequencies and anything other wifi item


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652440 - 09/17/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

404 said:
HOWEVER: exposure to electromagnetic radiation from cell phones may disrupt neurotransmitters in the brain...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23852905/

Quote:


Abstract
BACKGROUND: The use of mobile phones is rapidly increasing all over the world. Few studies deal with the effect of electromagnetic radiation (EMR) on monoamine neurotransmitters in the different brain areas of adult rat.

AIM: The aim of the present study was to investigate the effect of EMR on the concentrations of dopamine (DA), norepinephrine (NE) and serotonin (5-HT) in the hippocampus, hypothalamus, midbrain and medulla oblongata of adult rats.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: Adult rats were exposed daily to EMR (frequency 1800 MHz, specific absorption rate 0.843 W/kg, power density 0.02 mW/cm2, modulated at 217 Hz) and sacrificed after 1, 2 and 4 months of daily EMR exposure as well as after stopping EMR for 1 month (after 4 months of daily EMR exposure). Monoamines were determined by high performance liquid chromatography coupled with fluorescence detection (HPLC-FD) using their native properties.

RESULTS: The exposure to EMR resulted in significant changes in DA, NE and 5-HT in the four selected areas of adult rat brain.

CONCLUSIONS: The exposure of adult rats to EMR may cause disturbances in monoamine neurotransmitters and this may underlie many of the adverse effects reported after EMR including memory, learning, and stress.

PMID 23852905 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]








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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: 404]
    #23652449 - 09/17/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Doing drugs causes way more drastic effects on brain receptors


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652463 - 09/17/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Logical fallacy - strawman argument.

Drugs can help memory or they may be detrimental. Drugs are also largely avoidable, whereas electromagnetic radiation is not from cell phones as pretty much everyone uses one.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652475 - 09/17/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://reset.me/story/the-alarming-ways-emfs-are-changing-your-brain/

But did you know "EMF's increase permeability of the blood brain barrier allowing things like mercury, aluminum, and viruses to more readily enter the brain." And presumably drugs too.

Cell phones are hella suspect according to this lady and she repeats what I said earlier that, "You can’t trust the manufacturers of electronic devices or the government to keep you safe from EMFs."


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23652643 - 09/17/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If that's significant at all with the  blood barrier permiability then they could start using that to treat brain diseases better.

Still tho, im pretty sure EMF's have been all over the place and in houses for a long time. And workers who spend 8 hrs a day in high EMF zones haven't shown any significant increase in brain diseases.

I'd say this debate is on the same level as chemtrails.


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: trees]
    #23652756 - 09/17/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The data is definitely there for animals, but not so much for humans, i will give you that much


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: shadyy]
    #23652842 - 09/17/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Is RADIATION From Your Cell Phone Making You Sick? Shield Yourself and Your Loved Ones With The #1 Dr. Approved, Scientifically Proven EMR Protection Blocker Now. *100% Money Back Guarantee* For Use On All EMF Devices: WiFi, iPad, Kindle, Laptop... 


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Some of those reviews are hilarious:

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Being sensitive to radiation, I noticed a difference IMMEDIATELY! My hands used to ache from holding the cell phone, but not anymore! Also, in placing the phone just next to my PC, I felt a difference! AWESOME! It's no surprise the government backed these babies. They're even PATENTED! Some folks have a hard time understanding the harmful impact radiation has on the body, because you can't see it.




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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23653078 - 09/17/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23653488 - 09/17/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Remember Johnny Chochran?
http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php?topic=52489.0;wap2

Studies so far do not show definitively that cellphone use increases cancer risk, said the authors of the consensus statement issued Tuesday by the WHO. However, "limited" scientific evidence exists, they said, to suggest that the radiofrequency energy released by cell phones may increase the risk of two types of cancers: glioma, a type of brain cancer, and acoustic neuroma, a tumor of the nerve that runs from the ear to the brain.

Both types of cancers are rare: In the U.S., about 10,000 to 12,000 people develop a glioma each year and about 3,000 develop acoustic tumors. The elevated risk roughly doubles that risk after a decade of cellphone use, according to some studies.

Anecdotal evidence

Claims of a link between cell phone use and cancer are not new. In 2005, Dr. Keith Black, chairman of neurosurgery at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, told CNN that the malignant glioma that killed O.J. Simpson’s attorney, Johnnie Cochran, was the result of frequent cell phone use, based on the fact that the tumor developed on the side of the head against which Cochran held his phone.

"We do know that there is a significant correlation between the side that one uses their cell phone on and the side that you develop the brain tumor on," Black said in 2005.

In an interview with PBS on Tuesday, Black responded to the WHO study’s conclusions.

Microwave radiation


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #23653563 - 09/17/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

After completing my telecommunication trade, I'm much more wary about cellphone than before. I have spoken to two of my teacher witch have been in the field of wireless telecommunication for over 30 years + and they both agree that exposure to cellular phone can't be healthy for you.

It really depends on how strong the radiation is, lets say that your office is right beside a cellular tower that is emitting a continuous 20 watt of power for over 8 hours a day must not be good for you.

I rarely carry my cellphone in my pocket, I always leave it in my car or in my bag. And when I have to make a phone call/receive, I use wired headphones with a microphone. Cellular is pretty new if you think about, the technology really starting booming in the 2000's era.

And I don't know where I saw this, but I'm pretty sure phone manufacturer state in their term of service that you should always have the cellular phone X amount of distance away from your body at all time. I don't know if this is due to RF radiation or for an other reason.

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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: Achillita]
    #23653604 - 09/17/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I remember a product like that Crystal G. There was one product years ago, on those late nite infomercials. It was this gold square thing that u would stick to the inside of your cell phone, under your battery. I forgot the name but it somehow "blocked radiation".

I wonder if they really worked :shrug:


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23653998 - 09/17/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

check this out from May 2016 on the NTP test which showed increased cancer among rats,

The new results contradict the conventional wisdom, advanced by doctors, biologists, physicists, epidemiologists, engineers, journalists and government officials, among other pundits, that such effects are impossible. This view is based, in part, on the lack of an established mechanism for RF radiation from cell phones to induce cancer. For instance, earlier this week (May 22), a medical doctor in Michigan wrote an opinion piece for the Wall Street Journal stating that, “There is no known mechanism by which mobile phones might cause brain tumors.” He went on to argue that there is no need to warn the public about health risks.
http://microwavenews.com/news-center/ntp-cancer-results

And from September 2016 the NTP will soon explain the mechanism!
The same RF/microwave radiation that led male rats to develop brain tumors also caused DNA breaks in their brains. Female rats —which did not have significant elevated tumor counts— had fewer DNA breaks.
http://microwavenews.com/news-center/ntp-comet-assay


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23654001 - 09/17/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

put it in a microwave


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Re: Ways to avoid cellphone radiation? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23654311 - 09/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
I remember a product like that Crystal G. There was one product years ago, on those late nite infomercials. It was this gold square thing that u would stick to the inside of your cell phone, under your battery. I forgot the name but it somehow "blocked radiation".

I wonder if they really worked :shrug:




Sounds like straight up BS. You know half the shit on infomercials doesn't even work at all, they're scams.


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