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Pastywhyte
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23655542 - 09/18/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good observation dank. I should note that I usually case my tubs which. I might add that disclaimer to the OP.
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Dactylium
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23655567 - 09/18/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Pasty, what's your RH like in your grow room? You said you live in a dry area so you often case. I live in a pretty humid area so the room I grow in is naturally sitting at 65%. I'm wondering if I can get away without casing. I made my bottom holes much too close to my sub in my 23qt mini mono among other discrepancies (1.5" holes, 3" sub)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Dactylium]
#23655578 - 09/18/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep with 65% RH you will probably be just fine as is. Mine is bone dry. We always need to consider that our environment is different so there is no 100% one size fits all solution. We start at a point and adjust from it as needed.
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dankington
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23655610 - 09/18/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I did add ~1/2" CVG on top of the sub at spawning. This PE clone just obliterated all of it though. It was 100% colonized in maybe 5 days. Next time I'll try another strip or two to the bottom holes and see what happens. I guess I could get some peat moss too and case properly too…
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: dankington]
#23655760 - 09/18/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Isn't it incredible how people have been using polyfill all these years and have had micropore tape on them but now that pasty decided to experiment with it and found it worked, now polyfill will become a thing of the past! It's nice watching the teks evolve over the past two decades and really cool for me to witness it in real time as it happens.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: TrippyJuice]
#23655766 - 09/18/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
TrippyJuice said: [Transpore just means it's transparent.. Like I said both seem to blow air through
Well since you know better than Pasty this should be easy..
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spacechildo
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: AK1000] 1
#23655883 - 09/18/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
AK1000 said: Isn't it incredible how people have been using polyfill all these years and have had micropore tape on them but now that pasty decided to experiment with it and found it worked, now polyfill will become a thing of the past! It's nice watching the teks evolve over the past two decades and really cool for me to witness it in real time as it happens.
if you've watched this hobby evolve for 2 decades where the fuck were you last time mp tape was a hype for tubs?
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: spacechildo]
#23655906 - 09/18/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not to discredit pasty at all, but indeed, this has been a thing for quite a while. There weren't really any side by sides or influential people saying it was worth a shit though. Definitely seen noobs and vets alike doing it here and there over the years.
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spacechildo
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
#23655928 - 09/18/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pasty seems to have found a way to make MP tape give equally good results as poly can, that's something I never could get right and a major reason I chose adjustable poly over "semi-adjustable" mp tape.
that doesnt mean I wont try again and follow OP. It'd be great if I could get it right!
first monotub tek I read actually said to use mp tape at spawning, dont change a thingfor fruiting. that was 2009. now its back again
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: spacechildo]
#23656021 - 09/18/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Indeed this is a little less adjustable compared to poly but there is other ways to adjust and dial in. Half coverage over the hole can go a long way as can removing or adding fans, lids snapped down vs on loose, casing, etc. The upside to me is that tape is cheaper than poly, doesn't get trapped in the fruits, takes less space, easier to apply and looks cleaner.
Seriously this is not an all or nothing proposal. If someone finds poly works better for them then I'm gonna tell them to stick with the poly. But for those who wanted an alternative that can be made to work, this is a good start.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23656038 - 09/18/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23656129 - 09/18/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Before and after.

Doesn't that look so much better? Thanks a bunch pasty
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23656136 - 09/18/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Question: Would the cloth tape work as well? It's sold as "athletic tape" in the dollar store, but I use it all the time as micropore.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Mushierage]
#23656138 - 09/18/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Probably anything breathable will technically work but you'll have to dial it in yourself to account for the differences.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23656143 - 09/18/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would a hybrid make sense? Top holes with poly, bottom with mp?
Seems like poly for top holes can be more finely/quickly adjusted.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: TheLongComma]
#23656146 - 09/18/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wouldn't the other way around make more sense? Adjusting bottom holes for increased FAE?
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Mushierage]
#23656150 - 09/18/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had always thought the bottom holes were meant to be packed tightly throughout fruiting and top holes were the ones adjusted?
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: TheLongComma]
#23656156 - 09/18/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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both get adjusted. someone should make custom monotubs for cube growers. the holes will have sliders like the crisper drawer in the fridge or the vents on a grill.
fridge refrigerator why does fridge have a D in it?
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Inocuole
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23656172 - 09/18/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Trusted cuItivator said: both get adjusted. someone should make custom monotubs for cube growers. the holes will have sliders like the crisper drawer in the fridge or the vents on a grill.
fridge refrigerator why does fridge have a D in it?
Because fridge isn't a real word, it can do what it wants. Probably also because Frige would be a little misleading.
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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23656176 - 09/18/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking something like that
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