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    #23651523 - 09/16/16 10:48 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Edit: Full disclosure, I no longer use this method since I consider an adaptation to an already inferior tub design. The original Ohmatic design monotub that this is meant for was the gold standard for years. However I now prefer my Ez dialed monotubs for fruiting as they are truly set and forget. I recommend reading the link at the bottom of this post.


I have been asked to describe how I use micropore tape to dial in my monotubs. Its actually pretty easy and eliminates the mess and annoyance of polyfil. I know that the usual answer is that you cannot do it with micropore, that micropore only provides GE and is not able to provide FAE. However this is dependent on hole size and the number of layers used.

The larger the hole, the more air flows through. More tape will then restrict the airflow as needed. I like to dial mine in for set and forget, otherwise my climate dries them out. Tweaks can be made if more airflow is desired, for example I never run a fan. But you could run one if you wanted to. But I will caution that these without fan work pretty consistently for me most of the time.

You will need the 1" micropore tape for this. The 0.5" tape is annoying and I do not recommend. I use a 1.25" hole for my monos. If you use larger holes you may need more layers. For the bottoms holes I need 2 layers. Top holes only get one layer. With a 1.25" diameter hole and 1" tape you will need 2 pieces per layer to get enough coverage. Try to keep the overlap to a minimum, I try to not exceed 1/4" overlap. See the pics.

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Sometimes you may want to dial in for some extra FAE, especially for thick pinsets. This is a simple thing to do. For the lower holes, remove the last strip applied. This is the one that is on the upper part of the hole assuming you applied the tape the same as shown. For the top holes you can move the upper piece of tape down a bit or remove it completely if needed. This way you can dial the tubs in to get good air exchange to support the pinset.

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Works for Mini monos too



I should note that I usually case my tubs. If you do not case you might need to add another strip to the bottom holes if things seem to be getting dry. Again this all comes down to climate, preference, and how you do things. Be proactive, if stuff is getting dry then add another layer and hit the sub with a mist.



Edit: If you already have a pile of tubs drilled out with 1” or larger holes then continue to use this method to dial the tubs in. However for any new people still looking to drill their first tubs, I highly recommend my newer method of drilling out self dialing tubs.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/33


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23651558 - 09/16/16 11:11 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23651571 - 09/16/16 11:17 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Sky Walker] * 1
    #23651581 - 09/16/16 11:21 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Cool! Polyfill is annoying af. Especially when the substrate ends up a little deeper than planned and rides right up on the holes. Will definitely be trying this.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23651585 - 09/16/16 11:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well fuck it... the bag of polyfill I've had since 2012 still takes up more room than the 6 pack of micropore tape I have..

Suppose I'll give er a shot.  Having less stuff around is cool.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Inocuole] * 2
    #23651603 - 09/16/16 11:30 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I have a bunch of useless old flat pillows that I keep just for my tubs. I really like the prospect of not having those lying around anymore.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: NumeroEno] * 2
    #23651608 - 09/16/16 11:31 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Seems easier than ironing out polyfil.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: cr1s1s] * 1
    #23651628 - 09/16/16 11:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I've always wanted to get a more stream line way of doing the FAE on monotubs. Polyfil feels so inconsistent, no matter many posts I read about unfolding and folding the polyfil a certain way, always seems like a guessing game. I like this method because it would be consistent accross the board. I'm all about consistency when trying to dial in a monotub.

I'm going to be doing 4 tubs over the weekend. I'll probably do 1 or 2 this way and report back how they fruited vs the standard balls of polyfil.

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23651649 - 09/16/16 11:49 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

:bow2: very appreciated!


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: SuperFly] * 1
    #23651661 - 09/16/16 11:57 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I really want to try this.  I never thought it would work because of the way micropore restricts airflow.  Having this giant bag of polyfil sitting around is grade A fucking annoying, and I've got plenty of tape. 

I'm assuming this can only be done on large holes applications like large Monotubs.  Not sure how this would go over for mini monos but I guess if the holes are large enough.  :shrug:


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Mushierage] * 1
    #23651673 - 09/17/16 12:02 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Now that i have got the dialing poly down you go and throw this curve haha thanks man next tubs are going down like this


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Mushierage] * 1
    #23651676 - 09/17/16 12:03 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I use the same size holes for mini monos and this works just fine. Note the example in the OP.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Mushierage] * 2
    #23651677 - 09/17/16 12:04 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: liloldme] * 1
    #23651689 - 09/17/16 12:10 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

How come the bottom holes have less over lap and the tops have more? Being the poly needs to be tighter on the bottom Wouldnt less over lap creat less restriction ?


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: liloldme] * 1
    #23651692 - 09/17/16 12:11 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

:bubbles:fuckin decent!!

i got a mini with holes drilled around the top and tape on the holes.
getting the perfect dialed in rings around the holes.

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Boogieman47] * 1
    #23651698 - 09/17/16 12:13 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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How come the bottom holes have less over lap and the tops have more? Being the poly needs to be tighter on the bottom Wouldnt less over lap creat less restriction ?



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Try to keep the overlap to a minimum, I try to not exceed 1/4" overlap. See the pics.



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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23651706 - 09/17/16 12:18 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I read that, but since you posted that i over looked the pictures and i see it was a stupid question it really looked like the top holes had more of an overlap sorry


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Boogieman47] * 1
    #23651707 - 09/17/16 12:19 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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How come the bottom holes have less over lap and the tops have more? Being the poly needs to be tighter on the bottom Wouldnt less over lap creat less restriction ?




Its not an exact science. Don't exceed 1/4" and you will do fine.


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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: liloldme] * 1
    #23651711 - 09/17/16 12:22 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Easy Micropore Dialed Monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23651712 - 09/17/16 12:23 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I wasnt trying to get techinical on it like that i think just because the picture is straight on rather then at an angle it fucked with my eyes a bit my bad pasty


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