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DeadPhan



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no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar?
#23651339 - 09/16/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Between my stove being slightly uneven and also my seperation things. I forget what they are called, the aluminum tins that come with the all American. Anyway. It's gotten a Lil buckled over the years. So by the time my agar cools some of the jars are slanted. Can I just microwave on agar level surface agar that point agarts it's sterilized and it will reform nice and level? I have plastic lids. Would they melt in microwave? I would think I'd have to nuke it long. Just curious on your experience and such.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: DeadPhan]
#23651631 - 09/16/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would feel pretty safe saying it would be a ok. better with a clean microwave
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23651641 - 09/16/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It didn't seem like it'd be an issue to me. You're only remelting (supposedly) clean agar to level out and letting it harden again.
Though I'm not sure what a pasty plate would do in a microwave. Why don't you try it and let us know?
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Mushierage]
#23651667 - 09/16/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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every pp Tupperware I've ever seen is microwave safe. and besides if it can take the PC a microwave shouldn't be an issue
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Mushierage] 1
#23651679 - 09/16/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i had that happen to me. 
i found the titled plates kinda pooled the MS at the bottom but gave me a decent amount of clean areas to cut from towards the top.
sorta like the S or Z pattern but all waterfall like. i should of taken a pic or two.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: DeadPhan]
#23652044 - 09/17/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't you have to take the foil off or it will fry you wave? That then becoming a vector?
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23652059 - 09/17/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's wrong with a bit of a slant
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: cronicr]
#23652167 - 09/17/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: What's wrong with a bit of a slant
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23652387 - 09/17/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Being slanted is fine. Microwaving plates can be good to get rid of excessive free water in the jars. When you microwave a plate you usually get one spot that heats up and melts while the rest is all still set. You can swirl it around and the free water mixes with the liquid agar and resets. You can end up with uneven looking plates though as not all will have melted.
you can melt it all of course, with small plates and high power you risk it suddenly bubbling up and/or blowing your lids off. To effectively reduce the power you can stick a bowl or cup of water in the microwave at the same time. In the majority of microwaves lowering the power does not actually lower the power evenly/steadily, it just cycles the power on/off so you get bursts of full power.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23652552 - 09/17/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wtfcrazymofo said: Don't you have to take the foil off or it will fry you wave? That then becoming a vector?
The foil comes off after it comes out of the pressure cooker anyway
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23652879 - 09/17/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't put foil in a microwave.....(should) go without saying.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23653263 - 09/17/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to put CDs in the microwave when I was a kid.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23653447 - 09/17/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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These are half pint wide mouth masons with plastic lids. I got them from pressure cooker while still liquid and set them to cool on a flat surface
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23653500 - 09/17/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: I used to put CDs in the microwave when I was a kid.
I used to love that and a ball of tin foil
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23653637 - 09/17/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The cd's are cool, you get the prism effect or whatever.
I've never actually tried the foil in the microwave but it seems like a bad idea.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23653670 - 09/17/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: Don't put foil in a microwave.....(should) go without saying.
these are the USDA guidelines for using tinfoil in the microwave.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/appliances-and-thermometers/microwave-ovens-and-food-safety/!ut/p/a1/jZDdCoJAEIWfpQdYds2Sugwh0lIJqWxvYrBZXchdcRejnj6rm4r-Zq6G-c6c4VBOM8oVtLIAK7WCw3Xm3o4tmeeMfRYmY2fKgni9TOa-z0bpsAO2X4DY_VP_oSbslz78w6DfRH5UUF6DLYlUQtOsQEtAmSM2hmZC6z0xINCeiIDcElMi2m4BdX2QoHI0HbwntsSm0hXam6qSeaOP0CLRLao78XCJbih__o05XQexmw5mYeyyZPAKvAnvDnxOp65W2XkxEWlQ9C6fUKm_/#12
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Is it safe to use aluminum foil in a microwave oven? Always consult the owner's manual of your microwave oven and heed the manufacturer's recommendations for the use of aluminum foil. It can be safe to use small amounts of aluminum foil in a microwave oven.
Microwaves cannot pass through metal but are absorbed by food. No food completely covered by aluminum foil or in a covered metal pan should be put in a microwave oven because food wouldn't be available to absorb the microwaves. Operating the oven empty or when the food is completely wrapped in aluminum foil can cause damage to the oven and the food won't heat.
However, small pieces of aluminum foil can be used to "shield" areas of foods, such as poultry drumsticks and wings, to prevent overcooking.
Some food packaged in foil containers can be safe to microwave. Read the package heating instructions to see if the food manufacturer has specific recommendations for microwaving the product. Because food in these containers will only heat from the top, it's best to microwave foods only 1-2 inches in depth so food near the bottom will be heated thoroughly before food on top dries and overcooks.
General Rules for Safe Use of Aluminum Foil:
- Use new, smooth foil only. Wrinkled foil can cause arcing (sparks).
- Cover no more than 1/4 of the food with foil.
- Shape the foil smoothly to the food so no edges stick out.
- It makes no difference which side of foil (shiny or dull) is facing out.
- Do not place the foil closer than one inch from the oven walls.
- If the microwave oven has metal shelves OR a metal turntable, don't microwave food in foil containers or metal pans, and don't let foil used for shielding touch or be close to the shelves or turntable.
- If you see arcing (sparks), immediately remove the foil shielding; transfer frozen food from foil container to a microwave-safe utensil.
Many people are totally clueless about how to use microwaves. I used to give people more credit and thought they have been around so long that it was more common knowledge about how to use them. But in other threads I read about people burning their mouths and having half frozen dinners, if you are that fucking clueless then best avoid using them for any mycology stuff as you are bound to fail miserably and might be a danger to yourself.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23653674 - 09/17/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: The cd's are cool, you get the prism effect or whatever.
I've never actually tried the foil in the microwave but it seems like a bad idea.
A ball of tin foil arcs its tits off it looks cool not great for the magnetron or whatever
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: blackout]
#23653717 - 09/17/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So are you saying it's ok to microwave a pasty plate with aluminum foil? I don't get your point.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23653873 - 09/17/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes he is saying it is fine. Not that hard to read what he quoted.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: filthyknees]
#23653880 - 09/17/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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really? why would you though it's just stupid. Not that hard to take foil off a cup before you microwave it.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23653912 - 09/17/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk how stupid it is. I leave foil on before innoc so stuff is closer to sterile.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: filthyknees]
#23653918 - 09/17/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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to each his own
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23654227 - 09/17/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No he is playing devil's advocate again... Most household microwaves will not enjoy tin foil. And if it can its got to be done correctly.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23654263 - 09/17/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks! I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23654743 - 09/18/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What he's saying is that if the foil is not crumpled, it won't cause sparks so it won't cause damage. No one is telling you to recommend anything, he just pointed out that it can be done safely. Microwaves shouldn't really be used for anything besides melting bottles of agar anyway IMO. A PC is much better suited for mycological purposes.
Although I do admit, I used to "pasteurize" peat for casing in the microwave in the past. Before it bit me in the ass that is.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: Kenetic]
#23656247 - 09/18/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: I don't get your point.
You said
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kenetic said: Don't put foil in a microwave.....(should) go without saying.
But you gave no reasons why this "goes without saying" as though it is common knowledge that it must never ever be contemplated. I was giving the USDA instructions on doing exactly that, which suggests it should not "go without saying", people do it all the time. The last 2 microwaves I used had instructions on using metal (including foil) in the microwave. It is useful to know the reasoning why, as people may be avoiding using microwaves in a perfectly reasonable & safe manner just because they follow this old wives rule.
If I followed the blanket rule "never run with scissors" I would have missed several trains over the years, as I had a scissors on my swiss army knife, safely retracted in the tool, in a leather holster in my backpack. The warning of course has a sound basis, I prefer to know the reason behind it than to just blindly accept & follow it.
I would not leave foil on agar plates, I would have them covered with plastic bags in the first place. If you have a relatively empty microwave then the tinfoil is far more likely to cause trouble. I mentioned before having a bowl or cup of water in the microwave will help against this.
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Re: no pour agar jars. ok to remicrowave to level out the agar? [Re: blackout]
#23656267 - 09/18/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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OR we don't devils advocate the loophole ways we can use small amounts of foil in a microwave that actually have nothing to do with the foil on pasty plates or this thread for that matter.
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