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Markosheehan
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#23650837 - 09/16/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Myco_illogic
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Imo all naturally occurring (maybe LSD as well) psychedelics cause no physical harm, especially when used modestly.
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Psilocypher
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Supposed to be DMT yeah but then again if you get some really shitty made stuff, that might not be physically safe. So I'd say mushrooms. No fucking around with mushrooms, they are asking to be picked and eaten. Mushrooms slow my breathing waaay down, almost to the point where I'm not even sure if I am still breathing, so I'm guessing that slows down the heart rate too. I've never actually paid attention to my heart beat on mushrooms funnily enough. I will check next time. Do you have a problem with your heart?
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Psychedelics are not bad for your heart, at least the natural ones. The 2c serious might be different.
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DMT can be bad for your heart i would imagine.. Almost every time I lift off my heart jumps into high gear. I could see someone having a heart attack on it. Tho, I totally see it as safe really. I have never felt in danger for my health on it once. Just that the heart attack potential COULD be there IMO. Tho the same could be said about LSD or something too I guess.
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Well I'd argue smoking DMT is one of the least safe ways to take natural psychedelics. I dont like smoking DMT, its too short and too intense. I get a lot more out of a mushroom trip.
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Myco_illogic said: Imo all naturally occurring (maybe LSD as well) psychedelics cause no physical harm, especially when used modestly.
I'd imagine LSA, or at least the seeds it comes from, could be dangerous.
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Some cannabis has been very mildlysychedlic for me, and obviously very safe.
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sudly
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Markosheehan said: Hi I am wondering which is the most physically safe psychedelic. I have recently found out that certain psychedelics with high bunding affinities to the 5ht2b receptor could do damage to your heart so also which psychedelic does least damage to your heart. I was thinking dmt because its non selective and has a not too high binding affinity. Correct me if I am wrong.
The safest psychedelic is the psilocybin in magic mushrooms by far.
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Psilocypher
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Mental Taco said: Some cannabis has been very mildlysychedlic for me, and obviously very safe.
Ah yes, most of the Haze strains are quite trippy. I've have full blown CEVs from smoking Amnesia Haze after a week's tolerance break.
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Rhiozan
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Any reference to article that says about harm potential?
I follow psylocibin and dmt-related articles on pubmed. The interest of science to these and other similar substances is increasing greatly over the years, especially in the light of study, conducted at John Hopkins uni. So far all i can see is that these substances have no noticeable impact on the body other than brain.
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Re: Safest psychedelic [Re: Rhiozan]
#23665387 - 09/21/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not everything natural is safe: example: Datura...
The safest psychedelic is cannabis, followed by lsd. I think lsd is safer than mushrooms because you could have a musidentifield poisonous mushrooms or you could be allergic. Either of these can definitely kill you, whereas having a single blotter of a bunk acid is unlikely to kill you. Also people have survived thousands of doses of acid and I don't think the same experiment has been done with psilocybin. Lsd also leaves more mental functions in tact so you are less likely to have an accident.
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I have a friend who has tripped a total of over 500 times on either LSD or shrooms and he seems just fine.
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Re: Safest psychedelic [Re: sunshine]
#23665946 - 09/21/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know lots of acid casualties who are prone to suicidal behaviour. Not very physically safe IMO.
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sudly
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PsychoKinesiS said: Not everything natural is safe: example: Datura...
The safest psychedelic is cannabis, followed by lsd. I think lsd is safer than mushrooms because you could have a musidentifield poisonous mushrooms or you could be allergic. Either of these can definitely kill you, whereas having a single blotter of a bunk acid is unlikely to kill you. Also people have survived thousands of doses of acid and I don't think the same experiment has been done with psilocybin. Lsd also leaves more mental functions in tact so you are less likely to have an accident.
LSD does not leave more mental function in tact in my experience and as for being 'safer', the complete contents is usually unknown and additives can be present.
In hand picked and properly identified magic mushrooms there are no additives and the active ingredient psilocybin is safe to ingest.
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Re: Safest psychedelic [Re: sudly]
#23666404 - 09/21/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Id also figure mushrooms would be the safest psych out there. Especially if you grow your own you know what your getting.
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Mushrooms, ALD-52 hands down
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Hands down bromo dragonfly
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Hell yea, at no point in my bromo trip did I thin it was unsafe one bit....
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leech911
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I'd say for sure mushrooms are the safest psychedelic. Unless your a chemist crafting your own LSD it's hard to know exactly how pure the distillation is your receiving. Same thing with MDMA really. With mushrooms it's easy enough to just do it your self and see right where they came from. As well, there are zero reported cases of psilocybin causing a fatality. So shrooms are about as dangerous as weed.
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Re: Safest psychedelic [Re: leech911]
#23670283 - 09/23/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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leech911 said: As well, there are zero reported cases of psilocybin causing a fatality.
There may be more than this, but I've heard of atleast one case of death when one took too much pure psilocybin crystal. I think mckenna was actually there when it happened.
Everybody has presented some pretty good arguements here except the bromo-dragonfly that's like non-existent and easy to OD on lol. I assume some sarcasm is at work here. I wouldn't say mushrooms are safer than acid, or the other way around. They are both pretty safe. Like psychokinesis said, you could be allergic even if it's a rarity (some people may even be allergic to certain drugs), or misidentify the mushrooms. With lsd it could be misidentified as well, or as leech just said, impure. Often the impurities remaining in lsd are leftover precursor, which is toxic in it's base form. It's a small amount of the stuff though, and we get exposed to toxic stuff all of the time.
I would say that lsd, and mushrooms are some of the safest. The unsafe psychedelics imo, would be most all of the rc's. Less is known about them, and they also seem to jumble me up more mentally, than help. It's never good to mess with your mind. Some of them are easier to OD on, etc.
If you want to get into other drugs though, alcohol, meth, heroin, even cigarettes are very unsafe obviously. The list goes on.
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