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Are humans fucked? (poll)
#23650709 - 09/16/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why or why not?
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Tmethyl
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Yes. A species is fucked when it starts asking "are we fucked?".
Ego was not a successful adaptation. A successful parasite is not recognized by it's host, and certainly doesn't kill it's host.
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Yes
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23650761 - 09/16/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Yes. A species is fucked when it starts asking "are we fucked?".
Ego was not a successful adaptation. A successful parasite is not recognized by it's host, and certainly doesn't kill it's host.
Life has probably been questioning if it will make it or not since it first became aware that it was living and could die But I understand, it a bad sign.
By "kill its host" do you mean our destruction of the environment? If so we still have time to realize and stop what we are doing before its too late.
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Connoisseur said: Yes
Why yes? What makes you think we won't overcome our downsides and continue to evolve/ move forward?
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More or less, ya know.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: shadyy] 1
#23650894 - 09/16/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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probably not. our current societal system is unsustainable and will either require drastic change or will likely eventually collapse.
humanity as a whole though will probably survive, we are by far the most adaptable species on the planet, and the most widespread. it would take something truly catastrophic to get rid of us completely.
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That is pretty much how I feel, I truly hope it doesn't come to a mass catastrophe or meltdown of society for us to get our shit together though...
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: shadyy]
#23650912 - 09/16/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Extinction is inevitable to any and all life, Mankind is just helping itself get there quicker. Intellegence will be our undoing.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: Tmethyl]
#23650968 - 09/16/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Yes. A species is fucked when it starts asking "are we fucked?".
Ego was not a successful adaptation. A successful parasite is not recognized by it's host, and certainly doesn't kill it's host.
The species did not ask if it was fucked, only one member of the species did.
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...if one is lucky!
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IMO... undoubtedly.
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in what regard?
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: demiu5] 2
#23651075 - 09/16/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, because no matter how badly we ruin everything, there will always be a select few individuals with the intelligence and willpower to survive.
A disease that kills everyone? Humans are smart enough to quarantine those diseased, or themselves when the diseased outnumber the uninfected.
Nuclear fallout? There are places where some could survive the radiation and even a hypothetical nuclear winter long enough to reproduce and carry on.
Climate change? An ecological disaster, but completely survivable.
Point being, you can say our intelligence will be our undoing, however there will be remnants of human populations around for thousands more years.
The thing that will fuck us is when we biologically engineer smarter humans and animals and get replaced by that next species. But that won't be the end, just change our roles as a species.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: demiu5]
#23651077 - 09/16/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the respect that we're destroying ourselves; mind, body, soul and home (planet). We worship what destroys us, and give little thought to what could save us. The scales are so firmly tipped at this point, there's no coming back, barring catastrophe and rebuilding of global culture IMO.
I mean it's a massive topic, I could probably write a 10,000 word essay on it, but I'm really not in the mood.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23651081 - 09/16/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: No, because no matter how badly we ruin everything, there will always be a select few individuals with the intelligence and willpower to survive.
A disease that kills everyone? Humans are smart enough to quarantine those diseased, or themselves when the diseased outnumber the uninfected.
Nuclear fallout? There are places where some could survive the radiation and even a hypothetical nuclear winter long enough to reproduce and carry on.
Climate change? An ecological disaster, but completely survivable.
Point being, you can say our intelligence will be our undoing, however there will be remnants of human populations around for thousands more years.
The thing that will fuck us is when we biologically engineer smarter humans and animals and get replaced by that next species. But that won't be the end, just change our roles as a species.
i mostly agree with this, however there is more to your ecological disaster/climate change statements. the biggest issues will be food sources when primary pollinators are largely gone from the earth, as well as new food sources stabilizing during the intense heat and inevtiable freezing that is the oncoming ice age (which is being fueled by, not caused by, human activity). the next biggest issue will be potable water
i certainly think technological advances are the most prevalent threat to humans, as we currently know us, especially when mixing technology and dna/sentience. our species will pass and the next species will continue in line. just like all the other homos before us
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: demiu5]
#23651097 - 09/16/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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who you callin' a homo??
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: demiu5]
#23651107 - 09/16/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So far it seems over 2x as many people think we are fucked 
I voted No becouse I agree with others that no matter how bad things get some people will survive and carry on, you never know though.
We are almost at the point where nano weapons will be a thing and that could easily be the end...
All it will take is one self replicating nano weapon escaping its confinement and spreading through the atmosphere and or water...
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: demiu5]
#23651210 - 09/16/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Yes. A species is fucked when it starts asking "are we fucked?".
Ego was not a successful adaptation. A successful parasite is not recognized by it's host, and certainly doesn't kill it's host.
A species has never asked if it was fucked, making the claim that those who have were fucked in the end lacks any and all precedent.
And successful parasites have been noticed by their hosts, and many kill their hosts - successfully.
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demiu5 said: i mostly agree with this, however there is more to your ecological disaster/climate change statements. the biggest issues will be food sources when primary pollinators are largely gone from the earth, as well as new food sources stabilizing during the intense heat and inevtiable freezing that is the oncoming ice age (which is being fueled by, not caused by, human activity). the next biggest issue will be potable water
i certainly think technological advances are the most prevalent threat to humans, as we currently know us, especially when mixing technology and dna/sentience. our species will pass and the next species will continue in line. just like all the other homos before us
Good points, but in the grand scheme there will be stores of food somewhere for some to survive long enough to create sustainable food sources. If the pollinators are all dead, we'd become the pollinators ourselves.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23651215 - 09/16/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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All of them but the virgins.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: Near Dylan]
#23651229 - 09/16/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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we will persevere but the vast majority of us will not.
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Yes just not in my lifetime so idgaf
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Humans are zero fucked.
We will find a way to survive, even after world destruction of natural resources and global warming and maybe even after an intergalactic alien attack. Humans Will survive.
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Really so humans will be on this earth eternally?
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life finds a way
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Voted yes. Hate to be so cynical, but right now I dont have a lot of faith in humanity. Even let myself down more often than I would like.
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Cosmic_Flame said: life finds a way

Haha, u said it best. Human life finds a way. Eternal? Not sure. But I bet for a loooooong time.
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i don't have to think we're going to become extinct to think that we're fucked so that our lives are less and less worth living as time goes on.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: akira_akuma]
#23652273 - 09/17/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Life has never been better for so many at once. The trend is upwards for most. If the life worthiness bubble pops, there will still be considerably more people that are content with life than there were in any point in history prior.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23652293 - 09/17/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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a lot of content ruminants.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: akira_akuma]
#23652407 - 09/17/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think yes humans are fucked because just look at us. We're fucked. The fact that we face almost inevitable destruction at some point in the future is one of our few redeeming qualities.
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We'll pull through.
If only we could figure out how to leave this fucking planet and find another.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: Patlal]
#23652505 - 09/17/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When we create sentient computers, we will have no problem doing so. Until then we are largely earthbound.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23652516 - 09/17/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: When we create sentient computers, we will have no problem doing so. Until then we are largely earthbound.
Either that or we are all put into little pods and entered into a matrix to relive the year 1999 for all eternity, or until our purpose has been served and we are purged from the machine.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: Patlal]
#23652600 - 09/17/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: We'll pull through.
If only we could figure out how to leave this fucking planet and find another.
I remember growing up the adults and my own peers were all of the attitude that "the next generation" will deal with it. Or some crazy shit like a new planet mysteriously appearing would bail us out. Now we're actually hovering around our carrying capacity and climate change is about to remap our coastal areas. We'll pull through, no doubt, but we've fucked ourselves at this point.
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Yes.
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Re: Are humans fucked? (poll) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23654167 - 09/17/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: When we create sentient computers, we will have no problem doing so. Until then we are largely earthbound.
QFT
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