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flyontoast
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Registered: 08/20/16
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Wild oyster has cottony myc on grain, worth fruiting?
#23650661 - 09/16/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found an oyster fruiting in our wood lot during a dry month. It had a beautiful body and I figured it'd be an ideal candidate for outdoor cultivation and low tek greenhouse. I got it onto grain (no flow hood) and it was at first slow to colonize but then spread in a very cottony fashion. I've read that cottony myc tend not to fruit well or at all. Intuitively this strain struck me as quite resilient and well adapted to our region. Do I give-up on it, do I bother to fruit it? And is there something I can do to help "tame" it and make the myc more robust? Thanks for the advice, everyone commenting has been really helpful and insightful.
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My trade list Looking for strong terrestrial fruiters for an outdoor beds experiment: Agaricus Bitorquis, Agaricus Augustus, Agaricus blazei/subrufescens, Stropharia Rugoso-annulata, Clitocybe Nuda (blewits), and any species or other genus that you think work outdoors. Also, any commercially viable Pleurotus, cold or hot strains. Thanks for the Q&A, trades, and all the posters & teachers that have come before us
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Mycolorado
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Re: Wild oyster has cottony myc on grain, worth fruiting? [Re: flyontoast]
#23650849 - 09/16/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey flyontoast, So, are you going to cultivate indoor or out? Either way, cottony myc shouldn't have anything to do with ability to fruit, especially from a strain you really know nothing about. Oster mycelium tends to start out very fine and wispy and then it really consolidates and looks cottony and robust. Can you snap some pics?
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TravelAgency
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Re: Wild oyster has cottony myc on grain, worth fruiting? [Re: Mycolorado]
#23651512 - 09/16/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pics would help. Did you use an SAB? What kind of GreenHouse do you have?
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flyontoast
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Re: Wild oyster has cottony myc on grain, worth fruiting? [Re: TravelAgency]
#23658415 - 09/19/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys. A pic would be pointless by now since it started out cottony 2 weeks ago but now has colonized the entire jar as a solid block. Plus one had bacteria and the other green mold, so I tossed them yesterday. I didn't use a SAB because I tried this other technique another mushroom grower suggested to get around needing one or a HEPA. He suggester I try to open the mushroom and stab it with a sterile water syringe. After the stab, myc will be in the needle and you can squirt that into a jar through a self-healing port. It didn't work great, mostly because I think I would need a bigger gauge needle. But I did manage to start this liquid culture (pic).
 But one of the contam jars I threw out was started from this liquid culture, so I feel like I shouldn't trust it. Does this culture look healthy and is there any way to know if it's contam without doing a streak test? I made a SAB this week after noticing the contam. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep checking the tree where I originally foraged this strain and do a much cleaner job cloning it next time.
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My trade list Looking for strong terrestrial fruiters for an outdoor beds experiment: Agaricus Bitorquis, Agaricus Augustus, Agaricus blazei/subrufescens, Stropharia Rugoso-annulata, Clitocybe Nuda (blewits), and any species or other genus that you think work outdoors. Also, any commercially viable Pleurotus, cold or hot strains. Thanks for the Q&A, trades, and all the posters & teachers that have come before us
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Mycolorado
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Re: Wild oyster has cottony myc on grain, worth fruiting? [Re: flyontoast]
#23658578 - 09/19/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hard to tell with LC...it can look fine and still harbor contams. Personally, I don't like LC and think it's junk. I work entirely on agar as you can see what you have and it enables you to clean up contaminated specimens. Also, I know we have to use what we have available, but don't try to work around things, especially aseptic technique and the tools needed to accomplish it..ie, PC, SAB, HEPA, etc...Keep at it and you'll have success...I'd like to see you get those clones fruiting!
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